That would be brilliant, if @peacetrain and @Bluetit1802 could get some input into the course. I do believe that education is a two way process. Unfortunately have yet to encounter health professionals willing to acknowledge they can learn from patients. It is usually the same script or tick box exercise.I pondered that but then thought I may be seen as a know it all or trouble maker. One of the DNs running the course was interested in myfitnesspal when I last saw her so she may mention that.
If the practice had looked at the data and selected those with a good success rate, perhaps they could have invited those people to share their stories. I would see this as proactive and it would help others to have the confidence to try to get off the medication, if that's a possibility. Also to lose weight. I would jump at organising a walking group. I prefer to walk alone but I would be willing to organise people initially, until they were used to the routine and found their confidence to either walk alone or form their own little friendship groups.
I remember my DN saying I was rare in the practice and most think the medication is a passport to eating anything. I think the message needs to be more forceful and if the practice can get people who are managing successfully to meet others, then that surely would help.
We all contribute to the NHS and benefit and it would be nice to put something of ourselves back in.
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Yes you misinterpreted. At no point did I say it was an NHS punishment programme. I would never view such courses in that way. My point, I will repeat it again, was that FOR ME, the invitation was too late.Perhaps, I misinterpreted but I was reacting specifically to the remarks about' NHS punishment programme' and then the banter. I think it would be a pity if others who may benefit were put off what others have said is a good course,
I don't think that I said that you said this but was part of the thread and the banter followed. This quite frankly upset me because I see this course as one that may be beneficial to many.We didn't go. Quite honestly, I saw such a thing as part of the NHS punishment programme (ritual mortification, along with the ****-a-lot tablets), rather like having to turn up to see a probation officer or being put in the stocks, for the crime of being a fat nuisance. Not going didn't do us any harm. But others may find Desmond/Expert etc as comforting, reassuring and informative. I think it's important to decide which camp you are in and react accordingly. Nobody should feel obliged to go.
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Snap. Perhaps we could go together and cause mayhem? I noticed the course leaders are our own practice nurses.
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Perhaps they've invited us on purpose so we can give our input!! Ha ha ha!
I suppose that would be a good reason to go...
Perhaps they've invited us on purpose so we can give our input!! Ha ha ha!
I suppose that would be a good reason to go...
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I was having a read of the American diabetic ass. annual report stuff, she doesn't have to shift too far from the current advice,I emailed the dietitian who advised me on the HCLF diet originally, that I had switched to LCHF & gained good control & reversed complications.
She invited me onto her XPERT course, & 2 years later onto her XPERT refresher course - as an example of successful control. She has reduced the carb recommendation to about 130 g daily, but seems afraid to change the low sat fat recommendation.
I think you should go. Someone with your experience and with the courage to speak out could do a lot of good. Forgive them, for they know not what they do, etc. Don't worry about upsetting the self-righteous. Remember, people who take offence easily should be given every opportunity to do so.
Whether I have the courage to speak out if necessary at my DESMOND course is, er, well I think I'll just sit at the back ...
If the courses intention is to get the rest of the room off white bread, jam donuts, and Mars bars, and teach them about basic nutrition, and reading the labels at least, let alone going down the veg aisle, it would be shame to take that off track for the rest of the room.
But if they're already past that stage, fair enough.
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