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I went on insulin Humelin 3 about 18 months ago, I kept increasing it until it reached 30 units am and 28 units pm with no real improvement, I saw a different GP for my Neuropathy, and she added Metform prolonged release 500mgs 2 with breakfast and
two with evening meal.I have now been able to reduce my Insulin down to 20 units before breakfast and 18 units before evening meal.My reading are now between 5 and 7, I am hoping to come right off Insulin.
 
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Freema

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welcome here Dump :)

Have you tried going really low carb already ?
if you are overweight then it also help to loose untill you have the best BMI as possible
 
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mo53

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Hello @Dump . Welcome to the forum. I'll tag @daisy1 as I'm not sure whether you have had her brilliant information. :)
 
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daisy1

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@Dump

Hello Dump and welcome to the forum :) As mentioned above, here is the information we give to new members and I hope this will help you to keep your good levels. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 210,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

Freema

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I thought that I was doing brilliantly as I had got all my BS readings under 7.8. Nurse said see me in 6 months. Doc said see me in 12 months. Then I suddenly got a 17 reading, immediately took two more both 12.6. I had been extremely tired and cold night before, gone to bed at 19.30. What I did not expect was to feel faint just before lunch, reading 2.3. This all new experience for me. I do not want to bother surgery. When I felt very tired night before, I did not feel like making my usual low carb snack - crispbreads with Stilton, so I drank a can of Guinness. Any comments greatly appreciated.

I think a whisky would be better than a Guinness, its a beer and filled with cabs isn´t it ?
when being prediabetic you still have a chance to avoid full blown diabetes... so the LCHF-diet would be the way to go, but maybe you are already doing that diet...
when one gets ill it is normal to get much higher blood glucose ... so a few days when being ill and then having high BC is not anything to worry of... and a seldome spike over 7.8 is not either...

but being pre-diabetic you should be able to have control over your foods for most days so that never happens...
how many grams of carbs do you eat at a dayly basis ?

most diabetics in here can not eat more than under 70grams a day or even less before they are not able to get their BC in the non-diabetic level .. and that is what we should aim for to no get all the complications amputations neuropathy and blindness that diabetes will lead to if mostly too high in BG ...
actually quite a number in here on LCHF-diet do only get less than 20 grams of carbs every day..

it is individual how few carbs one can cope with even when taking metformin that helps a little but mostly less than 10%

try to find out how low you must go in grams of daily carbs till you see your numbers are in a non-diabetic level... then you will know what to go for in the future..

most pre-diabetics that don´t get a good control will get dibatic type 2 in less than 10 years ... so yes already as a pre-diabetic you are somewhat insuline resistant .. so daily brisk walks and or fittness and very much mucle-training is of great value in preventing diabetes progressing ... but still there is no garantee ..is can also be a genetic disposition...
 
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I went on insulin Humelin 3 about 18 months ago, I kept increasing it until it reached 30 units am and 28 units pm with no real improvement, I saw a different GP for my Neuropathy, and she added Metform prolonged release 500mgs 2 with breakfast and
two with evening meal.I have now been able to reduce my Insulin down to 20 units before breakfast and 18 units before evening meal.My reading are now between 5 and 7, I am hoping to come right off Insulin.

in germany the doctors also gives people with diabetic neoropathy : R-alpha-lipoic-acid at least 600mg daily as it seems to be able in some to prevent the neuropathy in progressing
 

Esalglop

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Thank you Freema. I was diagnosed Sept 30. Earliest diabetic clinic was 3 Oct so bought monitor and commenced diary. By time I saw doctor I had three weeks record of exactly what I had consumed and BS readings 2 hour after. Also, I thought all under control. Am 71 years young, 6'2", 180 lbs, exercise yoga every morning twenty mins plus ki Aikido weekly. Cholesterol was 6.7 last year now 5.5. Only medication taken is Omeprazole for gastro oesophageal reflux disease. Love a dram of whisky. My alcohol consumption is on average one drink/week.
 
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Thank you Freema. I was diagnosed Sept 30. Earliest diabetic clinic was 3 Oct so bought monitor and commenced diary. By time I saw doctor I had three weeks record of exactly what I had consumed and BS readings 2 hour after. Also, I thought all under control. Am 71 years young, 6'2", 180 lbs, exercise yoga every morning twenty mins plus ki Aikido weekly. Cholesterol was 6.7 last year now 5.5. Only medication taken is Omeprazole for gastro oesophageal reflux disease. Love a dram of whisky. My alcohol consumption is on average one drink/week.

you are doing really good the I think...wow also for the yoga.. some brisk walks most everyday is also good in fighting insulin resistens and diabetes... to get the Hearts rate a bit up every day...
I don´t drink either, but have a very old whisky which I have experimented with in the mornings lately, only on little drink/glass though .. the thing is that most like I have higher morning blood glucose "the dawn phenomenon" and alcohol can get your blood glucose at bit down , well only the first glass and only the ones without carbs..

so I thought I could stop this dawn phenomenon by taking 1 whisky... it didn´t lower much anyway... one day 0.5mmol and another day 0.3mmol and another 1.0mmol ...
now I am loosing a lot of kg´s on purpose but when I start to live on a stable weight and still do a lot of training I will have my drink in the mornings instead of in the evenings... and none if I have had red wine in the evening or others...

but when you take your weekly whisky then try to measure your blood glucose before and 1 hour later... and see if it lowers your glucose some... good luck in all your effords.. there are many good advice in this forum if you keep following and especially try the very low carb diet...
 
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Daibell

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Hi. Do I guess that you may have some excess weight? If so then it is vital to try to get that down thru a low-carb diet and Metformin will always help a bit. Insulin is not always a good option if there is excess weight, and hence insulin resistance, as the body may already have too much. Apologies if you are in fact slim; just guessing!
 
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in germany the doctors also gives people with diabetic neoropathy : R-alpha-lipoic-acid at least 600mg daily as it seems to be able in some to prevent the neuropathy in progressing

Could it prevent neuropathy full stop?
 

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Could it prevent neuropathy full stop?

I don´t think so... a few I´ve read somewhere gets rid of the neuropathy but som gets better and a lot do maybe not get worse as fast or the progress is stopped..

http://umm.edu/health/medical/altmed/supplement/alphalipoic-acid

https://examine.com/supplements/alpha-lipoic-acid/

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/08/150821111051.htm

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2836194/

but there are two kinds of ALA and the one that works in human bodies is r-Alpha.lipoic-acid
 
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Esalglop

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I do not know how many carbs I consume daily. I most definitely wish to control by diet only. I think that I need to analyse my food more carefully now. Breakfast is cup porridge with small Banana, nuts and berries or Ripe Avocadoes
 

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