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Bagster

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Hi, just been diagnosed as type 2 and if I'm honest I'm pooin myself.

Purchased some books. It they made me feel worse, also was ill for 7 days as the Metformin tablet gave me severe stomach pains and acid reflux, got changed to a "more expensive" tablet and ok now.

With regards to the sugar level meters, do we get these from the doc or just buy our own?

Any advice would be great, this forum looks ace and I expect has all the answers.
 

Kentoldlady1

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Hello and welcome!! So much to learn. Take a breath because you are among friends who have all been there!

Regards the pooing, yes it's really scary at first. But the more you learn the better it will be.

Have you had a look at the jason fung website? I don't know which books you have, but Dr fung is very helpful. And not at all scary. Also diet doctor and the free info on this site is great.

I was told not to bother testing by my dn at the practice. Not because it's not useful, but because the NHS cannot afford to pay for them. A meter is a must have. You can always ask your GP for one, and some do provide them.

The best advice I can give you at the very beginning is just to have a cup of tea and read. Read this site, and come back with all the questions you are bound to have.
I was dx in June this year and it's all still new to me!

May I ask what your hbalc was?
 
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Hello and welcome to the forum. If you are not on insulin then the chances of being given a meter and testing strips on free prescription are very slim. A glucose tear is in my opinion an essential piece of kit, it shows you how your body reacts to the foods you have eaten so you can learn which foods raise your bg levels too high and which ones you can munch on happily. You are in for a big learning curve but don't worry because there are few rules and they are common sense really. Browse the forum and ask as many questions as you like, there's always someone about to advise you.

Edit. Glucose tear should read glucometer, blummin predictive text.
 

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Welcome Bagster! I'm now just over five months from diagnosis. Once I was over the initial shock, I saw it as the proverbial kick up the bum to get healthier. I was started on Metformin and tolerate it well now after a bit of stomach upset in the early days. I wasn't advised to eat low carb by my GP, but stumbled on this forum by chance and took up a low carb life style with self monitoring (self funded). I started by eating less than 100g carbs/day and after 6 weeks reduced it to 50-70g/day. The best way to see what foods suit you is to test right before a meal and then two hours after the first bite, you’re looking for a rise of no more than 2 mmol/l. It's worked for me, to date I've lost over three and a half stone and got my HbA1c down to a non diabetic level, all due to the fantastic support and advise I got here, it is indeed a brilliant place! I'm sure you'll find a way to get control too!
 
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Bagster

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Thanks for the welcome and advice guys, I purchased 2 books but if I'm honest their not the best and after 3 days reading I ain't any more clued up, in fact, I got more info from reading various topics on the forum.

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Hello @Bagster and Welcome to the Forum :).

Tagging @daisy1 who will post on this Thread some useful and basic information for New Members. Have a good read of it and ask any questions you have.:)
 

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Welcome @Bagster

The most popular meters for self funding T2's are the Codefree and the Tee2 because the strips are much cheaper than other meters, and you need a lot of strips. You can't buy them in pharmacies.

Try here for the Codefree meter
http://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/blood-glucose-monitor/

and here for the extra strips
http://homehealth-uk.com/all-products/sd-codefree-test-strips-to-be-used-only-with-the-sd-monitor/

There are discount codes if you buy in bulk.
5 packs 264086
10 packs 975833

The Tee2 is here and the meter is free.
http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product/tee2-blood-glucose-meter/

Don’t forget to check the box that you have diabetes so you can buy VAT free. (for either meter)
 

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Hi Bagster I found this site after having problems with meds’ and next step was insulin, since aug my HbA1c down from 65 to 51 over a stone weight loss: big thanks to all the people here and the Lichfield’s program
 
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Hello and welcome. I am where you are now and this forum is just fab.
 

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@Bagster

Hello Bagster and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 250,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why
  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 

Daibell

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Thanks for the welcome and advice guys, I purchased 2 books but if I'm honest their not the best and after 3 days reading I ain't any more clued up, in fact, I got more info from reading various topics on the forum.

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Hi and welcome. I haven't read these books but so many wrongly tell you to include loads of carbs which is bad news. So be aware of that and follow the advice on the posts so far. I'm sure you will find things come under control and it's worth buying your own meter as I did for peace of mind. The Codefree on the web has low-cost test strips. If you want a fancy meter, the manufacturers will normally provide one free if you ask but the strips can be expensive which is where they make their money.
 

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Hi @Bagster and welcome. You have done the right thing by posting. You clearly have the desire to learn, so get stuck in to any of the sections that appeal to you, then come back and ask as many questions as you want. They are a nice bunch on here and have helped me lots.
 
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@Bagster your initial post made me laugh because I too have "been there" although I didn't use such colorful language at the time (I hope you don't take offense if I say that).

I was also "pooing myself" when diagnosed nine months ago, not to mention all sorts of other really bad feelings. This is completely natural and this forum is a good place to talk about those initial feelings and how to cope with them.

On the practical side, you have a long slog ahead but once you get beyond the initial shock you should find it gets less scary over time. In our modern societies, the level of misinformation about diabetes is high. Yes, it is a nasty chronic disease but most of us are able to bring it under control and lead a full life.

It is a bit hard to give you practical advice without knowing a bit more about your situation. We know only that you are Type 2 and taking Metformin.

Some of us have been able to bring our T2 entirely under control solely with a low-carbohydrate diet and exercise, stopping the drugs (or never even being on drugs at all). This is a fairly radical transformation on the meal-planning side of things, and needing to find a bit of extra time for exercise. It is also something that the medical profession considers controversial, so you may have to be a bit stubborn with your doctors or nurses.

Otherwise, however, it is in my opinion the best way to go if it works for you -- which is by no means guaranteed. If this low-carb option makes medical sense for you, I really think it is worth a valiant try!

When I say, "T2 entirely under control" I mean having a "normal" blood glucose levels (the same as a person who does not have diabetes). Meaning, that as long as you can maintain that level of control, you are not at risk of developing those scary diabetes "complications" you have probably been reading about by now. (For details of my case, see signature below.)