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I totally agree with you about hospitals. Which is why I fight tooth and nail not to go there. And I do know that in the UK the 'flu shot is not a live vaccine and cannot give you 'flu. But it can make you pretty ill, as I know to my cost.You constantly hear people saying the flu shot gave me the flu, or I know someone.... So what is to blame when someone gets sick and has not had the shot? I personally can't think of a better place to catch a cold than in a hospital where all the sick people go. I am a health care worker and hospitals are germ factories. Influenza killed millions around the world just 100 years ago, I have had it once and get the shot. Anything is better than going through that again. To each their own.
The flu jab cannot give you flu. It does not contain any live virus. If somebody gets a cold or flu after having the flu jab, it is due to coincidence. With the high numbers of people receiving flu vaccines, there are bound to be some people who become infected with an unrelated virus during the period following vaccination.The very reason I never have a flu jab and never will!! I work in a hospital and several collegues have gone off sick with colds/flu after having the jab!
Articles like this are the reason why I don't read anything put out by Mercola. He seems to mix truths, half-truths, misinterpretation and misinformation in equal measures. Without expertise in the area under discussion, it's almost impossible to tell which is which. Even with a modicum of expertise it would take a long take to check the sources thoroughly.I totally agree with you about hospitals. Which is why I fight tooth and nail not to go there. And I do know that in the UK the 'flu shot is not a live vaccine and cannot give you 'flu. But it can make you pretty ill, as I know to my cost.
I've been umm'ing and aa'ing about whether or not to have the 'vaccine again this year, after being really ill with it last year and subsequently getting two bouts of full-blown 'flu which knocked me off my feet from December until March, and which would certainly have put me in hospital had I not strenuously fought the proposal.
I've been reading an article by Dr Joseph Mercola about 'flu shots, (I know, I know - love him or hate him), and came across this:
It's important to realize that vaccines (all vaccines, not just flu vaccines) are immunosuppressive, meaning they suppress your immune system, which may not return to normal for weeks, perhaps months. Here are just some of the ways vaccines impair and alter your immune response:
Some components in vaccines, such as thimerosal (mercury preservative) and aluminum adjuvants, are neurotoxic and may depress your immune and brain function
Vaccines can trigger allergic reactions by introducing large foreign protein molecules into your body that have not been properly broken down by your digestive tract (since they are injected)
Lab altered vaccine viruses may further impair your immune response
Vaccines may alter your T-cell function, thereby triggering chronic illness
Foreign DNA/RNA from animal tissues can wreak havoc in your body and trigger autoimmunity in some people
The flu vaccine may pose an immediate risk to your cardiovascular system, causing abnormalities in arterial function and LDL oxidation that may persist for at least two weeks.
and this:
But is getting an annual flu shot really "the best way" to protect yourself against influenza? Research frequently tells a very different story. For example, recent studies have shown that:
With each successive annual flu vaccination, the protection afforded by the vaccine appears to diminish.7,8 Research published in 2014 concluded that vaccine-induced protection against influenza was greatest among those who had NOT received a flu shot in the previous five years.
The flu vaccine may also increase your risk of contracting other, more serious influenza infections.
Data shows that people who received the seasonal flu vaccine in 2008 had twice the risk of getting the H1N1 "swine flu" compared to those who didn't receive a flu shot.
Compared to children who do not get an annual flu vaccine, those who receive influenza vaccinations have a three times higher risk of hospitalization due to influenza.
Statin drugs — taken by 1 in 4 Americans over the age of 45 — may undermine your immune system's ability to respond to the flu vaccine.
After vaccination, antibody concentrations were 38 percent to 67 percent lower in statin users over the age of 65, compared to non-statin users of the same age. Antibody concentrations were also reduced in younger people who took statins.
Independent science reviews have also concluded that flu shots do not appear to prevent influenza or complications of influenza
Influenza vaccine does not appear to prevent influenza-like-illness (ILI) associated with other types of viruses responsible for about 80 percent of all respiratory or gastrointestinal infections during any given flu season
Of course, these stats all apply to the US market, but they have made me wonder...
The full article can be found here, if anyone's interested:
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/a...=20161023Z1&et_cid=DM123594&et_rid=1723629664
If you feel better after just a few days, it wasn't flu. It was a cold.how are your BG levels ????? -- flu will take as long as it takes ( a few days or a couple of weeks )
make sure you are testing , drinking fluids , and correcting as needed
I have discussed this with my GP, who told me that the reason I got flu last year was because the vaccine the NHS was using in 2015 was subsequently found to be only around 30% effective, and it's always a lottery as to the strain of flu which will be the most aggressive in any given year. And, as another poster has already said, the literature that comes with the vaccination tells you that it can generate "flu-like" symptoms in some people.Regarding your particular case, why not have a chat with your GP about the reaction you had last year and to help you weight up the risks involved both of having it or not having it?
Thanks, @mist - I'm certainly going to try to! And if I do decide not to have the flu shot and then I get flu, you are perfectly entitled to tell me "I told you so!"
Funny thing, I actually had a bad allergic reaction to my brothers three dogs that I have been round plenty of times.
Both of those are true but worth mentioning that if someone does get flu-like symptoms, it's only for a day or so and they can be relieved by paracetamol.I have discussed this with my GP, who told me that the reason I got flu last year was because the vaccine the NHS was using in 2015 was subsequently found to be only around 30% effective, and it's always a lottery as to the strain of flu which will be the most aggressive in any given year. And, as another poster has already said, the literature that comes with the vaccination tells you that it can generate "flu-like" symptoms in some people.
Stay away from sick people!