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mikepf.

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
I have just read a 'blurb' about '7ways to health. The great diabetes lie'. Has anybody bought this book and if you have, what are your thoughts about it.
Is it worth buying or is it a waste of tree life!
Mike of.
 
I haven't read it but why buy a book when the information is here on this site for free.
You will learn a lot more than just 7 ways to be healthy
 
I haven't read it but why buy a book when the information is here on this site for free.
You will learn a lot more than just 7 ways to be healthy
Apparently last year 17,000 type 2 diabetics reversed there condition using this
book, that is according to the producers of this book.
That is why I am asking for information.
Specifically from unbiased and independent people who have read or tried the
books regimes.
Mikepf.
 
I have not read the book or would even want to ... Save your money and read @daisy1 introduction for all newbies here.. Then read the forums .. I have got my T2 in remission now ... No magic pills or potions..just a good balanced low carb high fat way of eating ..and regular exercise..
 
@mikepf.

Hi Mike and welcome to the forum :) Mentioned above is the information we give to new members and I am posting it here as you might find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Thank you daisy1 very informative.
Enclave I asked for unbiased opinions. I'm not looking for an argument about this book, the 'nor would I want to' remark seems a little blinkered but it is your choice and I wish you well.
 
Thank you daisy1 very informative.
Enclave I asked for unbiased opinions. I'm not looking for an argument about this book, the 'nor would I want to' remark seems a little blinkered but it is your choice and I wish you well.
Hi @mikepf.
I hadn't heard of this book but found an online review (see link). http://supplementpolice.com/big-diabetes-lie/
It doesn't seem very positive Quote "Unfortunately, 7 Steps to Health and the Big Diabetes Lie does not make any mention about scientific evidence or clinical results anywhere. So if you’re looking for a diabetes cure that actually works, then 7 Steps to Health and the Big Diabetes Lie probably isn’t it."

have a read for yourself and make you're own judgements. Have you looked at the Newcastle Diet?
 
Thank you daisy1 very informative.
Enclave I asked for unbiased opinions. I'm not looking for an argument about this book, the 'nor would I want to' remark seems a little blinkered but it is your choice and I wish you well.

I purchased dr Bernstein diabetes solution book on the recommendation of many on this site.

I was NOT disappointed. A great read and a great motivator.

However I wouldn't purchase another book, the information in them is readily available in threads on here and you ask a question someone will always offer advice or their "opinion".

It's our choice whether we choose to listen or accept that advice or opinion. We are all different our issues are all different and what works for one may not for next but may help others. I believe @Enclave opinion not to be blinkered but built on their own experiences and challenges which lets be honest diabetes is an experience and a challenge.

All the best and good luck
 
Thank you daisy1 very informative.
Enclave I asked for unbiased opinions. I'm not looking for an argument about this book, the 'nor would I want to' remark seems a little blinkered but it is your choice and I wish you well.
Sorry my heavy handed remark was in an effort to save you money. My nor would I want to remark was not intended to be anything other than honest ... Just wanted to point out that all the info you need and support can be found for free in the forums here. However if you do purchase the book the do let us know how well it's working for you.
 
Yes @ I have looked at the 'Newcastle' but found I was losing weight to fast and had to structure it for me.
Regards Mikepf.
 
Yes @ I have looked at the 'Newcastle' but found I was losing weight to fast and had to structure it for me.
Regards Mikepf.
You will find no matter what advice or plan you will have to Taylor it to yourself.

Think of it as a learning curve with each new thing you try. If I'm trying something different/new/extreme I test more see my reactions before/during/after from a diabetes perspective.
 
Yes IZ I see your point but what's that saying about tricks and old dogs, I'm 71 on the 17th of next month.
Just weighed myself OOPS! Yesterday I was 192lbs. now I'm 189lbs. Must be worry!!! Better have a poached egg.
I'm still new at this IZ and I find that every little twing, twang and burp I have to consider if it is just old age or is it part of
the diabetes.
Later IZ I'm off to have a panic attack.
Regards mikepf.
 
It's part and parcel we are all different and we all react different to training/food/insulin etc...

I'm new to the diabetes and I'm training for a 100km ultra marathon so I understand how difficult it is to get it right but treat it as a trial/experiment. I'm an engineer so I love problem solving and thus the approach I take with my diabetes I see it as a fault that I need to fix... Works for me but may not for you...

Just keep focused and when things don't go to plan turn it to a positive by learning from it as apposed to letting it knock you down. I know this is easier said than done...

Keep your head up and try to turn the negatives into a positive and you will come out on top!
 
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