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Doc said I was stupid

trudy1

trudy1

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Location
Kent
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Been to the docs this morning. I've lost weight which is great he asked me what I was eating I said LCHF and he said that's stupid and I'm silly for doing it also said I should nor be checking my blood. I left feeling really deflated. Sorry I just wanted a rant
 
trudy1 said:
Sorry I just wanted a rant
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And with the reason too!!! How do they dare to do that!!!:mad:
Your results speak to themselves...so even you feel upset and angry..leave it to that and take some comfort that you know what is good for you and it shows!
We know that 'medics' still have lots of catching up to do....so let him be in his own 'greatness' and carry on proving him wrong ;)..just wait until you see him next time...you'll be the one who cannot contain your happy grin when things have gone from good to even better...:D
I would start practicing some selective 'sign language'.....:angelic:
 
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Sorry to hear that happened to you. :( I would think it is very important to keep testing. I just read today that our diabetes supply scheme here is changing their rules which will mainly impact type 2 non insulin diabetics. They're making it so that they can only get 6 months supply of test strips and then after that they have to get approval from their doc to use test strips. I can see problems arising from that like you're experiencing here. It sounds like you need to find a more compassionate and concerned doc.
 
What a daft doctor. Take no notice and keep on doing what you're doing. I look forward to my check ups now :D
 
Thank you for all your support. He said I have to eat rice potatoes etc. I said that to many carbs is bad for me and he said he didn't know I was a doctor and is going to send me to a dietician so they can tell me what to eat. I'm going to carry on the way I'm going cos I feel great got loads more energy :)
 
I had to see a different doctor last year who ended up saying most of my problems were "in my head" , no **** sherlock was my thought , that might of been why my regular doctor had sent me for therapy for stress, depression and anxiety some months earlier....

And when I mentioned my bloods were often in the 20s which might account for feeling unwell , I was told I should not be testing,,,,,,,


Doctors :banghead:
 
trudy1 said:
Been to the docs this morning. I've lost weight which is great he asked me what I was eating I said LCHF and he said that's stupid and I'm silly for doing it also said I should nor be checking my blood. I left feeling really deflated. Sorry I just wanted a rant
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He is the ignorant and clueless one. With doctors like that it is no wonder the whole world is facing such staggering numbers of T2D.

My endocrinologist question if I am able to climb Mount Everest by having determination alone...implying that I will certainly fail with my diet...:D
 
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mfactor said:
I had to see a different doctor last year who ended up saying most of my problems were "in my head" , no **** sherlock was my thought , that might of been why my regular doctor had sent me for therapy for stress, depression and anxiety some months earlier....

And when I mentioned my bloods were often in the 20s which might account for feeling unwell , I was told I should not be testing,,,,,,,


Doctors :banghead:
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Doctors just seem to think they know our bodies better than we do and how we feel and don't like to be questioned
 
trudy1 said:
Thank you for all your support. He said I have to eat rice potatoes etc. I said that to many carbs is bad for me and he said he didn't know I was a doctor and is going to send me to a dietician so they can tell me what to eat. I'm going to carry on the way I'm going cos I feel great got loads more energy :)
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Did you have any recent lab blood test results to discuss? If not, I would ask for some as soon as possible. It is likely they will show your diabetes to be improving. They could also act as a lever to open his mind a little to the alternatives to his mantra.

My surgery are wedded to the usual NICE mantra, but in discussions a few months ago about another issue I had at the time (completely non-diabetes related), the Advanced Nurse Practitioner was utterly fascinated by what I had achieved with my diabetes and how I had done it. Coincidentally, the Rangan Chattergee series was also airing just then, and we had quite a long discussion about sausages (I know, unbelievable really). She just kept saying "I thought I had a decent handle on food, but I need to do my homework".

As you can imagine, I left her a little reading list. I like to be helpful, where I can. ;)

If only the senior partner, who is the practise diabetes specialist, apparently, had a more open mind...........

(He's my work in progress. ;) )
 
AndBreathe said:
Did you have any recent lab blood test results to discuss? If not, I would ask for some as soon as possible. It is likely they will show your diabetes to be improving. They could also act as a lever to open his mind a little to the alternatives to his mantra.

My surgery are wedded to the usual NICE mantra, but in discussions a few months ago about another issue I had at the time (completely non-diabetes related), the Advanced Nurse Practitioner was utterly fascinated by what I had achieved with my diabetes and how I had done it. Coincidentally, the Rangan Chattergee series was also airing just then, and we had quite a long discussion about sausages (I know, unbelievable really). She just kept saying "I thought I had a decent handle on food, but I need to do my homework".

As you can imagine, I left her a little reading list. I like to be helpful, where I can. ;)

If only the senior partner, who is the practise diabetes specialist, apparently, had a more open mind...........

(He's my work in progress. ;) )
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I showed him blood monitor results and my food diary and how well I'm keeping my readings stable and he just wasn't interested.
 
trudy1 said:
I showed him blood monitor results and my food diary and how well I'm keeping my readings stable and he just wasn't interested.
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When are you next due an HbA1c? That seems to be the only thing some GPs are interested in, when it comes to T2.

I might be inclined to use the dietician's appointment as a lever for an up to date HbA1c test, if one is anywhere near due, so that you have up to date data on which to base any potential dietary changes.

At diagnosis, we have a starting point, which tend to be our diagnostic readings and tests, then we compare with the next set to see how we've been doing, to ensure the lab backs up the messages our meter has been giving us along the way. Without a new base point, any changes you might make would be all a big mystery, as you wouldn't have your starting point. Do you see what I mean?

Show him you're trying to be controlled and scientific in your approach. His approach is all rather "trust me, Im a Doctor-ish", which isn't really usually best received by folks like many of us.

Sounds like you're doing well though.
 
The results from my last two HbA1c tests were 40 and 39 my GP said he felt they "were a bit too low to be honest" He said he would prefer them to be nearer 46 honestly he really did.
 
trudy1 said:
I showed him blood monitor results and my food diary and how well I'm keeping my readings stable and he just wasn't interested.
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You are healthy proof in front of him that the guidelines he spouts to the other type 2 under his "care" are being given rubbish advice by their doctor. I'm afraid it doesn't surprise me that he becomes defensive and refuses to listen. Our practise nurse was exactly the same. The diabetes overseer doctor in my practise hadn't even heard of Roy Taylor and the Newcastle diet or LCHF so he was worse than useless. Neither were very interested in what I tried to explain as to how I was managing my diabetes. Keep up the great work and in the words of some great people here F*ck 'em (well that's mainly my words)....
 
Many of these doctors have accepted as gospel truth that T2D is a progressive condition that can only be managed by medication and insulin. Their many years of failure to successfully treat the condition have convinced them that there is no other way. It is a mountain that they have created themselves.

In reality many on this forum who have taken the less travelled path...have found it to be a much smaller hill.,,
 
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13lizanne said:
The results from my last two HbA1c tests were 40 and 39 my GP said he felt they "were a bit too low to be honest" He said he would prefer them to be nearer 46 honestly he really did.
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Well I guess at that level you can't be classed as "Diabetic" so they might loose their funding? Just me being cynical...
 
AndBreathe said:
When are you next due an HbA1c? That seems to be the only thing some GPs are interested in, when it comes to T2.

I might be inclined to use the dietician's appointment as a lever for an up to date HbA1c test, if one is anywhere near due, so that you have up to date data on which to base any potential dietary changes.

At diagnosis, we have a starting point, which tend to be our diagnostic readings and tests, then we compare with the next set to see how we've been doing, to ensure the lab backs up the messages our meter has been giving us along the way. Without a new base point, any changes you might make would be all a big mystery, as you wouldn't have your starting point. Do you see what I mean?

Show him you're trying to be controlled and scientific in your approach. His approach is all rather "trust me, Im a Doctor-ish", which isn't really usually best received by folks like many of us.

Sounds like you're doing well though.
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My first was 78 and my last one was 42
 
trudy1 said:
Been to the docs this morning. I've lost weight which is great he asked me what I was eating I said LCHF and he said that's stupid and I'm silly for doing it also said I should nor be checking my blood. I left feeling really deflated. Sorry I just wanted a rant
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Sorry to read such a negative post, unacceptable response from a person in the medical profession. I would change doctors or change surgery's @trudy1.
I probably would of got up, started to walk out and said to GP " It's not me who's the silly one here" and left.
Good luck and take care, RRB
 
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