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Fatigue is killing me!

DarrenAu

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Hi to everyone. Just looking for some reassurance from those who may have been through a similar thing.

I'm type 2, on medication, but haven't really adjusted my diet and fitness and thus my BG readings are still quite high. As a result of not addressing this, I find I'm very tired every day, which in turn just makes everything harder and my patience with everything around is constantly tested. It's quite debilitating.

Of course I need to get fit and eat correctly - and I'm conceding that insulin injections are probably the next step to take. I'm wondering if any others have suffered this horrible fatigue - and did insulin and getting your levels under control give you back some energy? Hoping so!
 
:)Hi @DarrenAu welcome to the forum:)

before diagnosis I could sleep standing up - and literally did - dropped off standing in a queue in a shop!

You say you haven't changed your diet. Is there a reason for that? Most of us here have found a reduced or low carb diet works well. Insulin like any other medication is not a magic bullet and we still have to manage our condition.

I will tag @daisy1 for you she will give you some very useful info that she posts for all newbies.

Maybe if you give us a bit more information like what your numbers are what you eat etc we may have some ideas to help you reduce your numbers and avoid insulin.

Have a good read around the forum and ask questions there is always someone around with help and info and ideas. You have come to the right place - lots of very knowledgeable friendly people here:)
 
Yep me too, I'm not a nap person but I was falling asleep on the sofa every night. Once your BG come down you find it occurs less. And once I switched to LCHF I found I've never had so much energy!

Why are you conceding you need to take Insulin? If you read many stories on here you will find people who control their diabetes via diet and exercise alone. Obviously we are all different, for my my goal was to come off Metformin which I have just done.

Keep going, be positive ... and you'll find things aren't as bad as they seem (I know that from experience).
 
Hi to everyone. Just looking for some reassurance from those who may have been through a similar thing.

I'm type 2, on medication, but haven't really adjusted my diet and fitness and thus my BG readings are still quite high. As a result of not addressing this, I find I'm very tired every day, which in turn just makes everything harder and my patience with everything around is constantly tested. It's quite debilitating.

Of course I need to get fit and eat correctly - and I'm conceding that insulin injections are probably the next step to take. I'm wondering if any others have suffered this horrible fatigue - and did insulin and getting your levels under control give you back some energy? Hoping so!

@PenfoldAPD got it spot on... There are loads of people within this community of over 200,000 diabetics who have controlled their disease with diet and exercise alone.

The mechanics of diet change and not feeling hungry are pretty straightforward...if not easy...in my experience.

I suspect the key for you might be flicking your psychological switch...maybe even feeling the fear and doing it anyway.

I personally have never felt so energetic since making my change:) Good luck!


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Hi @DarrenAu and welcome to the forum. When I was diagnosed last September I had become a couch potato (well actually a hammock potato). I spent most of my waking hours lying around. When I received my T2 diagnosis I realised I had to exercise more. I started walking round my local park. At first I could hardly manage one circuit - about 2,000 steps.
After finding this forum I adopted a Low Carbohydrate High Fat approach to eating. I have lost about 34lbs and have a lot more energy. I have been averaging around 25,000 steps a day.
Have a read around the threads and you will see a lot of people on here have controlled their condition with LCHF. Insulin is not inevitable.
 
@DarrenAu

Hello Darren and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Try following the low carb way of eating which will keep your levels under control. Ask more questions and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi DarrenAu
I was the same, would come home from work and fall asleep on the sofa in the middle of the afternoon, or even get up in the morning only to fall asleep on the sofa shortly afterwards. Eventually I found this wonderful forum and started to follow the low carb, high fat diet, alongside Dr Michael Mosley's 8 week blood sugar diet (£3 something on Amazon books). I also watched the low carb program from this website showing a video each week. They all helped to get my levels under control and am now hopefully heading towards not going back onto medication (metformin and simvastatin, both of which made me ill).
 
What Is LCFH?

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Sorry we really should avoid these short hands:)

Low Carb High Fat.

Cut the carbs: 20g - 150g per day range depending on tolerance

Protein: normal amount - 1g per day per kilo of body weight

High Fat: nuts, seeds, oily fish, butter, cream, eggs, virgin olive oil etc

You'll feel full, likely stop snacking and excess weight comes off fairly easily in my experience.

But the big plus...all my metabolic markers, such as Blood Pressure, cholesterol etc have also moved into the non-diabetes non-metabolic syndrome range.

Hope that helps explain :)


Diagnosed 13/4/16: T2, no meds, HbA1c 53, FBG 12.6, Trigs 3.6, HDL .75, LDL 4.0, BP 169/95, 13st 8lbs, waist 34" (2012 - 17st 7lbs, w 42").

2/6/16: FBG AV 4.6, Trigs 1.5, HDL 2.0, LDL 3.0, BP 120/72, 11st 11lbs, waist 30" (2012 - 17st 7lbs, w 42").

Regime: 20g LCHF, run 1 mile daily, weekly fasting.


4/6/16: Best BP 112/64....yeah!!
 
Hi. Before I went onto insulin and was on tablets I never felt tired even when my sugars were in the 20s so we are all different. Do follow the diet advice to get any excess weight and blood sugar down. Having insulin if insulin resistant is not an ideal solution as it could be adding to an excess of your own insulin. If you are slim and still have high blood sugar and taking possibly three tablets then insulin may make sense.
 
Thank you to everyone who posted a response to this, my post from 6 weeks ago!

After reading your advice I changed my diet to LCHF instantly and the results came quickly. I also started walking every second day for up to an hour, just getting things moving again.

My readings came down from an average of 12-14 mmol/l to 7-8 mmol/l and I have much more energy. No more napping during the day and I'm sure I'm sleeper better too. My doctor was so pleased - makes a nice change!

I've lost about 5kgs too and find that my new diet fills me up and gets me through each day without too many cravings for nasty foods.

So THANK YOU again for helping me on my way back to relative normality! There's still a long way to go, but I'm on the right track with food and exercise, so it's only a matter of time.

cheers
Darren
 
Great going @DarrenAu - you have done remarkably well - keep it up - have you avoided the insulin? - glad your feeling so much better:)
 
I was moved to insulin over 2 years ago and it has worked wonders for me in all aspects, less fatigue, lost weight and less hyperglycaemia. The constant fatigue which was severe at one point has gone too. The OP should consider insulin as his next move. :)
 
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