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For some people I would think seeing their own reflection would be enough to trigger weight loss..:D

It's a no brainier, being grossly overweight is not a good thing. If people need a 30 second talk from a GP then..

1: I want to be a GP because that is an easy job!

2: I fear for the future of humanity..:p

I blame Facebook..:joyful:
 
Ever heard of body dis-morphia some thin people look in the mirror and see a fat person others like a 27 stone friend of mine see a slim person. No 30 second talk is going to change that.
 
Hi John , I look in the mirror and see a scraggy old man whose bones are showing when he takes his shirt off! Problem is my wife and daughters agree.:);) Atb Derek
 
mahola said:
Obesity is down to so much more than just over-eating. It can be a mental health issue too. You come across as very insensitive.
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Preaching to the choir love..;)

I have mental Heath issues, but I don't eat, instead I choose to mutilate my body

Edited by Mod to remove rudeness towards another poster.
 
There are many types of mental health issues. There are many causes and types of addiction. Lets be compassionate here. We do not know what people are dealing with, and what daily battles they fight.
 
mahola said:
Obesity is down to so much more than just over-eating. It can be a mental health issue too. You come across as very insensitive.
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Then there's the affects of certain prescribed drugs, then there's problems with the 500+ chemical reactions that take place in the Kreb cycle, then . . . . . . . Yes, obesity is down to so much more than just over-eating.

As a general question, when a person consumes less calories than their basic metabolic rate (Harris Benedict is as good as any to calculate this) by at least 500 calories per day and they exercise more than most and they don't lose weight, what next? Obesity really is down to so much more than eating too much.
 
DavidGrahamJones said:
Then there's the affects of certain prescribed drugs, then there's problems with the 500+ chemical reactions that take place in the Kreb cycle, then . . . . . . . Yes, obesity is down to so much more than just over-eating.

As a general question, when a person consumes less calories than their basic metabolic rate (Harris Benedict is as good as any to calculate this) by at least 500 calories per day and they exercise more than most and they don't lose weight, what next? Obesity really is down to so much more than eating too much.
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It may help you to look into fasting - it's meant to be good for resetting slow metabolisms, if you believe Dr Fung.
 
One of the GPs I see advised me on weight loss. He said I should eat less fat, and exercise more. He suggested I hould eat a lunch like he had. He opened a plastic tub to show what he was having for lunch. It contained slices of cucumber and celery. He had a coffee with no sugar and milk for breakfast, and was having another with his lunch. He had been eating this way for 4 years. I asked if he had lost weight this way. His reply was that he knew and understood how difficult it was, as his weight always seemed to return to a default of 15st no matter what he did.
I left him with a bag of almonds to go with his lunch, and the knowledge that I was managing quite well without following his advice.
 
Obesity and weight gain has a lot of causes. Even if one knows rationally that obesity will cause health problems and make one less attractive, deciding to follow a diet and make exercises to become lean isn't a think one will do. Irrationality has a big slice on dictating the things one does.

So a 30 second chat from an authoritative could make one take the rational choiche instead of the irrational one.
 
MikeTurin said:
Obesity and weight gain has a lot of causes. Even if one knows rationally that obesity will cause health problems and make one less attractive, deciding to follow a diet and make exercises to become lean isn't a think one will do. Irrationality has a big slice on dictating the things one does.

So a 30 second chat from an authoritative could make one take the rational choiche instead of the irrational one.
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Of course, many would benefit from a 'wake up call' from someone who can make a difference. I, like many here, faithfully followed advice on weight loss from the GP nurse. The advice to eat low fat and carbs with every meal. I continued to gain weight, and became diabetic. Sometimes the HCPs are the least likely to give the appropriate advice that will result in weightloss and health improvement.
 
It would make me so mad when I go to the doctor and they would say "you need to lose weight" REALLY? I hadn't noticed. Not like I like being overweight. And was happy feeling tired and sore
I wasn't believed when I said I walked and didn't drink sweet stuff or that I was eating whole grains and lots of veggies.
I don't think a doctor mentioning the need to loose weight would change anything for most people. Now if some one goes in and asks for help and advice that's different.
 
Indy51 said:
It may help you to look into fasting - it's meant to be good for resetting slow metabolisms, if you believe Dr Fung.
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Thanks for that advice. I'm currently trying something akin to Newcastle (2 replacements plus one meal) and I'm also having my main meal at lunchtime. I'm no stranger to fasting, I've had several colonoscopies where it became obvious that my intestinal transit time was slower than normal (even without pain killers) so I usually fast for 2 days.

Believe it or not a lot of my weight issues started the day I moved in with my wife who told me that I wasn't going to have this or that (bachelor type stuff, eg kebabs), I was going to eat "proper" food. I actually gained 3 stone in the first 3 months. I was referred to a dietician at the local hospital who basically said that the WW frozen meals should be avoided because of the salt content. That is 29 years ago now, so maybe it's all different.
 
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