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LeighA

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I work in the fitness industry, have a keen interest in nutrition & am currently doing an Obesity & Diabetes course.My mother was diagnosed with type 2 last year & I am stunned at the advice her diabetic nurse has given her.........do not self test (we don't want you to be worried), no food is off limits & you must eat starchy carbs with every meal. As far as my mother is concerned I know nothing, & if she refuses to listen then c'est la vie, but is this NHS advice normal across the U.K.?
 
LeighA said:
I work in the fitness industry, have a keen interest in nutrition & am currently doing an Obesity & Diabetes course.My mother was diagnosed with type 2 last year & I am stunned at the advice her diabetic nurse has given her.........do not self test (we don't want you to be worried), no food is off limits & you must eat starchy carbs with every meal. As far as my mother is concerned I know nothing, & if she refuses to listen then c'est la vie, but is this NHS advice normal across the U.K.?
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In a word - YES. These are the current guidance given to HCP's, Any doctor not following this mantra risks legal challenge if anything goes wrong.
 
Sadly it is. Tell your mother that when I was diagnosed a couple of years ago I spent several months getting absolutely nowhere doing what I was told on the "Desmond" day. I am a slim (very untypical) T2 and my glucose was very high at diagnosis. I just went for my free NHS check up, I had no symptoms at all and thought I was very healthy, if I hadn't researched things for myself I might well have had a stroke or heart attack by now.

Tell her to read up on Professor Roy Taylor's research. Brilliant man.
 
Sadly, yes. This seems to be the case for me and a lot of the people on these forums.
My own doctor called the LCHF diet a fad. I've avoided him since!
My diabetic nurse is really pleased with my results without medication, but rolls her eyes in horror when I tell her how I do it.
I feel much more comfortable reading the advice on here. I've lost 2 stones. My Non alcoholic fatty liver has returned to normal and has remained there for over a year. resulting in the doctor discharging me from the hospital liver clinic.
My cholesterol lowered from 8.3 to 5.8 with the good bit going up.
My Hb levels had reduced to 48 at last test.. another test due at the end of the month.
Most of all I know how good I feel,
 
Arab Horse said:
Sadly it is. Tell your mother that when I was diagnosed a couple of years ago I spent several months getting absolutely nowhere doing what I was told on the "Desmond" day. I am a slim (very untypical) T2 and my glucose was very high at diagnosis. I just went for my free NHS check up, I had no symptoms at all and thought I was very healthy, if I hadn't researched things for myself I might well have had a stroke or heart attack by now.

Tell her to read up on Professor Roy Taylor's research. Brilliant man.
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Thank you so much for your reply. I'm definitely going to read it. I really don't know how to handle it. My mum is a real "know it all" even when she's wrong. She refuses to do any research because, as far as she's concerned, the NHS advice she's received is A grade.
 
If the NHS advice is top notch why is there a T2D epidemic and they are spending £10b on dealing with diabetes and it's complications? Surely if their advice was correct they'd be spending less, especially on dealing with complications??
 
slip said:
If the NHS advice is top notch why is there a T2D epidemic and they are spending £10b on dealing with diabetes and it's complications? Surely if their advice was correct they'd be spending less, especially on dealing with complications??
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Good question!
Maybe they're spending the money on the wrong things.
 
slip said:
If the NHS advice is top notch why is there a T2D epidemic and they are spending £10b on dealing with diabetes and it's complications? Surely if their advice was correct they'd be spending less, especially on dealing with complications??
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I couldn't agree more, I'm at a total loss with an apparently intelligent woman
 
Could you buy her a codefree meter and strips then ask her to prove to you her NHS way is working with a series of tests?
 
slip said:
Could you buy her a codefree meter and strips then ask her to prove to you her NHS way is working with a series of tests?
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That's not a bad idea thank you. I need to try something but it's a test in itself trying to get her to listen without her shouting me down because, although she doesn't, she knows best. She's very confrontational on all subjects
 
I'm sure you love you mum, 'know it all' and confrontationalisms included! - you're only trying to help her so hopefully she'll see that when it dawns on her that you could actually be right.

Her confrontational attitude may just work in your favour, select your pre-agreed testing times carefully!
 
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