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Liz14

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I don't understand what I am reading here. I was told my BG was 61 and should be 48 but I reading should be between 4 and 6.
Obviously a different measurement. I was also told that testing my blood was a waste of time and they would test it twice a year anyway. Feel out in the cold. Was not given any info just the obvious avoid sugar etc.
 
I don't understand what I am reading here. I was told my BG was 61 and should be 48 but I reading should be between 4 and 6.
Obviously a different measurement. I was also told that testing my blood was a waste of time and they would test it twice a year anyway. Feel out in the cold. Was not given any info just the obvious avoid sugar etc.
Hi and welcome Liz
Your diagnosis was based on an HbA1c test which measures your average blood sugar level over the past 2-3 months.
The 4-6 level is what you get when you test and is your blood sugar level at that exact moment.
A lot of people here find that a blood glucose meter is an essential piece of kit (probably the most essential) but the NHS doesn't want to pay for the test strips which can work out to be expensive.
A lot of us use the SD Codefree meter which has just about the cheapest strips on the market if you are able to fund your own I would highly recommend it. You can then see the effects of your meals on your blood sugar ad adjust you r food accordingly.
You can buy the meter here..
https://homehealth-uk.com/all-products/codefree-blood-glucose-monitoring-system-mmoll-or-mgdl/

the UK unit of measurement is mmol/l so you want that one and also tick the I have diabetes box so the meter is VAT free.
The 4-6 are mmol/l

Check out the low carb diet forum here for some great tips on how to lower yor blood sugar reading and for recipes check out
https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb

I will also post the intro that Daisy1 gives for new comers to the site..

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/basic-information-for-newly-diagnosed-diabetics.17088/

Low Carb Program - http://www.diabetes.co.uk/lowcarb/

You now have quite a lot of reading to do..
Enjoy
You'll soon know more than your GP!

All the best
Mark
 
Hi and welcome Liz
Your diagnosis was based on an HbA1c test which measures your average blood sugar level over the past 2-3 months.
The 4-6 level is what you get when you test and is your blood sugar level at that exact moment.
A lot of people here find that a blood glucose meter is an essential piece of kit (probably the most essential) but the NHS doesn't want to pay for the test strips which can work out to be expensive.
A lot of us use the SD Codefree meter which has just about the cheapest strips on the market if you are able to fund your own I would highly recommend it. You can then see the effects of your meals on your blood sugar ad adjust you r food accordingly.
You can buy the meter here..
https://homehealth-uk.com/all-products/codefree-blood-glucose-monitoring-system-mmoll-or-mgdl/

the UK unit of measurement is mmol/l so you want that one and also tick the I have diabetes box so the meter is VAT free.
The 4-6 are mmol/l

Check out the low carb diet forum here for some great tips on how to lower yor blood sugar reading and for recipes check out
https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb

I will also post the intro that Daisy1 gives for new comers to the site..

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/basic-information-for-newly-diagnosed-diabetics.17088/

Low Carb Program - http://www.diabetes.co.uk/lowcarb/

You now have quite a lot of reading to do..
Enjoy
You'll soon know more than your GP!

All the best
Mark
 
Hi and welcome Liz
Your diagnosis was based on an HbA1c test which measures your average blood sugar level over the past 2-3 months.
The 4-6 level is what you get when you test and is your blood sugar level at that exact moment.
A lot of people here find that a blood glucose meter is an essential piece of kit (probably the most essential) but the NHS doesn't want to pay for the test strips which can work out to be expensive.
A lot of us use the SD Codefree meter which has just about the cheapest strips on the market if you are able to fund your own I would highly recommend it. You can then see the effects of your meals on your blood sugar ad adjust you r food accordingly.
You can buy the meter here..
https://homehealth-uk.com/all-products/codefree-blood-glucose-monitoring-system-mmoll-or-mgdl/

the UK unit of measurement is mmol/l so you want that one and also tick the I have diabetes box so the meter is VAT free.
The 4-6 are mmol/l

Check out the low carb diet forum here for some great tips on how to lower yor blood sugar reading and for recipes check out
https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb

I will also post the intro that Daisy1 gives for new comers to the site..

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/basic-information-for-newly-diagnosed-diabetics.17088/

Low Carb Program - http://www.diabetes.co.uk/lowcarb/

You now have quite a lot of reading to do..
Enjoy
You'll soon know more than your GP!

All the best
Mark
Hi Mark, Thank you so much - I now understand. I am seeing a different diabetic nurse next week and have a list of questions. Will definitely check out the websites you recommend. Thanks for taking the time to reply to me.
 
Hi and welcome,

Yes, you are confusing measurement units. The HbA1c test you had of 61 is 61mmol/mol. When we do finger prick tests the units (in the UK) are mmol/l. I think we have all mixed these up at one time or another.
 
@Liz14

Hello Liz and welcome to the forum:) Here, and also mentioned above, is the basic information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful. It contains advice on carbs and levels and includes a link to the Low Carb Program which you could try. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 220,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi Mark, Thank you so much - I now understand. I am seeing a different diabetic nurse next week and have a list of questions. Will definitely check out the websites you recommend. Thanks for taking the time to reply to me.
No worries.. beware though some diabetes nurses are a bit funny about our way of eating because it goes against "standard" NHS advice. The problem is that our way work better than theirs for most people. Maybe try and get her to prescribe a meter and strips if you can... saying you want to see the effects of different foods on your blood sugars.. some pople have managed to get one that way although it is unlikely.. good luck tho.
 
Hi Liz14 and welcome to the forum.
If you want to know anything no matter how silly you think it is then ask it here, there's always someone who can provide an answer.
Good luck
Maggie
 
@Liz14 - Hello and Welcome to the Forum :).
I have listed the HBA1C ranges for you:

Normal - below 42 mmol = 6.0% below.
Prediabetic. - 42 to 47. mmol = 6.0% to 6.4%.
Diabetic - 48 mmol or over. = 6.5% and over.
 
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