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Fraud or not?

wolfie11969

wolfie11969

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Location
Dudley, West Midlands
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
I feel a bit of a fraud being in this group. My GP did blood tests about 2 years ago and I had a couple of GTT tests and I was told I was diabetic. Fast forward to now and my HBA1C has come down to 35 and according to the charts on here I'm no longer a diabetic (good news).

Now do I go back to my GP and ask him whether I need all the other things that come with being a diabetic ie foot check, twice yearly diabetic check, flu jab, eye check etc or do I not rock the boat and say thankyou to the NHS for providing me with this additional stuff. I guess I'm just concerned that I'm taking stuff another person can make use of. It's hard enough getting an appointment to see a GP or the nurse and I'm taking a couple up.

Any thoughts?
 
wolfie11969 said:
I feel a bit of a fraud being in this group. My GP did blood tests about 2 years ago and I had a couple of GTT tests and I was told I was diabetic. Fast forward to now and my HBA1C has come down to 35 and according to the charts on here I'm no longer a diabetic (good news).

Now do I go back to my GP and ask him whether I need all the other things that come with being a diabetic ie foot check, twice yearly diabetic check, flu jab, eye check etc or do I not rock the boat and say thankyou to the NHS for providing me with this additional stuff. I guess I'm just concerned that I'm taking stuff another person can make use of. It's hard enough getting an appointment to see a GP or the nurse and I'm taking a couple up.

Any thoughts?
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Others may be able to answer this better than me, but I have a similar Hba1c to you and I don't regard that as meaning I am no longer diabetic - just that I currently have things under control. I go for regular reviews, although they've just been reduced to one per year, and I've just had my annual retinal scan.

I continue to eat a low(ish) carb diet and to take exercise - partly because I've got into the habit of doing so and partly because I want to continue to control my blood sugars and prevent further damage.

Diabetes isn't "curable" and as you get older, your pancreas becomes less efficient. I don't think you're being a fraud by continuing to have checks, and in fact I urge you to carry on doing so.

(Purely my opinion; other points of view are available :))
 
mist said:
I guess a lot of it depends on where you are situated.

I haven't seen a doctor or nurse about my diabetes in well over five years.

I wouldn't stress about it, do what makes you feel most comfortable.
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Dear Mist your levels are so High many times that you really ought bother some expert , I am sure you could get your average level down , maybe just by discussing your ways of bolussing with one of the moderaters with type 1 in This forum
 
Freema said:
Dear Mist your levels are so High many times that you really ought bother some expert , I am sure you could get your average level down , maybe just by discussing your ways of bolussing with one of the moderaters with type 1 in This forum
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The moderators? Yes maybe, then they could delete my post afterwards..:joyful:
 
You are such a sweet person you could write Azure in a private message she is so sharp in guiding type 1's
I dont want you to have devastating complications you need all your arms and legs and "smiles " dear
 
jay hay-char said:
Others may be able to answer this better than me, but I have a similar Hba1c to you and I don't regard that as meaning I am no longer diabetic - just that I currently have things under control. I go for regular reviews, although they've just been reduced to one per year, and I've just had my annual retinal scan.

I continue to eat a low(ish) carb diet and to take exercise - partly because I've got into the habit of doing so and partly because I want to continue to control my blood sugars and prevent further damage.

Diabetes isn't "curable" and as you get older, your pancreas becomes less efficient. I don't think you're being a fraud by continuing to have checks, and in fact I urge you to carry on doing so.

(Purely my opinion; other points of view are available :))
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Thanks for that. I just felt that I was taking up a spot that the NHS could fund for someone who really needed it.

Didnt think of the future and any implications. Guess I'll stay on the bus and get the checks done yearly
 
@wolfie11969 I too have an HbA1c in the 'non-diabetic' range, but boy am I diabetic, confirmed by prick tests after meals. I have no first insulin response at all, high resistance to any carbs at all in the morning.
Recently I had a jam sponge pud and custard, just to see what effect it had, I knew it would be high-ish
After 2 hours I was still over 9 mmol. So no doubt in my mind. I continue to draw on all the resources available to me. I take the view that the tighter control I have the less expense the NHS will incur in later years on my behalf
 
wolfie11969 said:
Thanks for that. I just felt that I was taking up a spot that the NHS could fund for someone who really needed it.

Didnt think of the future and any implications. Guess I'll stay on the bus and get the checks done yearly
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Glad about that. You are only in remission.

mist yes you must go back to the medics. I don't want to preach but you post really horrific fasting levels which with guidance and help can improve substantially. When your sugar levels improve so will your state of mind.
 
walnut_face said:
@wolfie11969 I too have an HbA1c in the 'non-diabetic' range, but boy am I diabetic, confirmed by prick tests after meals. I have no first insulin response at all, high resistance to any carbs at all in the morning.
Recently I had a jam sponge pud and custard, just to see what effect it had, I knew it would be high-ish
After 2 hours I was still over 9 mmol. So no doubt in my mind. I continue to draw on all the resources available to me. I take the view that the tighter control I have the less expense the NHS will incur in later years on my behalf
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Now it becomes more apparent. I cant eat sweet stuff, my monitor tells me that. If I do fancy something sweet I have to make sure I eat it after my evening meal and then make sure I leave it a while before showering/bathing as I can get quite unsteady on my feet. I have been known to collapse after eating sweet stuff. Maybe my GP isnt as silly as I think. I have changed over to sugar free stuff which is obvious in the HBA1C results.

Thankyou for your reply :)
 
wolfie11969 said:
Thanks for that. I just felt that I was taking up a spot that the NHS could fund for someone who really needed it.

Didnt think of the future and any implications. Guess I'll stay on the bus and get the checks done yearly
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@wolfie1969 I'm another one who doesn't believe in a cure, you still have the trigger, or whatever you care to call it, that caused your diabetes in the first place. So you do still need to watch things to make sure you stay in control.

Are you working? - If so you're presumably paying national insurance and taxes, and these will cover (even if only in part!) your contributions to whatever health tests and treatments you may require. IMO.

Robbity
 
Robbity said:
@wolfie1969 I'm another one who doesn't believe in a cure, you still have the trigger, or whatever you care to call it, that caused your diabetes in the first place. So you do still need to watch things to make sure you stay in control.

Are you working? - If so you're presumably paying national insurance and taxes, and these will cover (even if only in part!) your contributions to whatever health tests and treatments you may require. IMO.

Robbity
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Thankyou Robbity

I've had years of paying National Insurance, however I no longer work due to other health problems. I'm the same about my other health problems - I feel other people need the appointments more than I do.

Diabetes runs heavily in our family, both parents sides. Was inevitable some of the siblings would end up with it.
 
Hi @wolfie11969 My last HbA1c was in the non-diabetic range too, and my morning fbgs are usually below 7.
But my GP still wants me to be tested at least every 12 months, the HbA1c, neuropathy and rhetina tests.
I would be very happy to be told I am no longer diabetic and don't need to be tested again, but T2 diabetes isn't like that. We will always need to be careful about what we eat, and have regular checks.
 
Hi @wolfie11969 by continuing your tests, in particular your blood work, you may save NHS resources in the long run. I am taking my 35 (5.4%) a1c as the beginning, and will be disappointed if I am not lower at my next check.
 
wolfie11969 said:
Thanks for that. I just felt that I was taking up a spot that the NHS could fund for someone who really needed it.

Didnt think of the future and any implications. Guess I'll stay on the bus and get the checks done yearly
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Glad to hear that. As others have said, you're likely to save the NHS money in the longer term, and you will have a better quality of life which is, surely, the most important thing, and the reason why the NHS was set up in the first place. Don't feel guilty about making use of it.
 
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