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Found this re sucralose ( which is basically made of sugar where the oxygen in the molecules has been replaced with chlorine - nice!)

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/261179.php

And this re more general question

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/artificial-sweeteners-insulin/

If you google the issue lots of hits come up, some showng a definate assosciation between sweeteners and insulin spikes, others saying the opposite - I guess the message is the old saying of "you pays your money and takes your choice"
 
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Thank you so much for the inspiration. I bought some sugar free roasted almond milk and a bottle of the banana NAS Crusha. I waited until the milk was ice cold then experimented.... tested at 30 mins, 1 hr and 2hrs and no change to BG at all.... and it's not too sweet at all. In fact it was very, very enjoyable
 
Chook said:
Thank you so much for the inspiration. I bought some sugar free roasted almond milk and a bottle of the banana NAS Crusha. I waited until the milk was ice cold then experimented.... tested at 30 mins, 1 hr and 2hrs and no change to BG at all.... and it's not too sweet at all. In fact it was very, very enjoyable
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Oooo, banana! Tesco don't stock banana, I'll have to look elsewhere for that one!
 
So far, I've tried roasted almond milk on its own it's pretty tasty just by itself (might even have it warm in the winter!), with the chocolate syrup, that tasted ok. However last night I tried the vanilla, now that was really nice, I think the vanilla compliments the almond flavour well. I'm going to try the raspberry tonight. Watch this space! (Blood sugars seemed unaffected :happy:)
 
I'm guessing you could use it with some frozen double cream and maybe coconut milk to make flavoured ice cream too... chocolate and coconut low carb ice cream.. now that sounds interesting..
 
Raspberry tested last night, second favourite to vanilla, chocolate in third place! These have all been with the roasted almond milk. When this has run out I'll be trying the milkshake syrups with the unroasted unsweetened almond milk, not sure what unroasted almonds taste like!
 
Rachox said:
Raspberry tested last night, second favourite to vanilla, chocolate in third place! These have all been with the roasted almond milk. When this has run out I'll be trying the milkshake syrups with the unroasted unsweetened almond milk, not sure what unroasted almonds taste like!
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Asda have got a special offer on at the moment. Four cartons of various different milks for £4. I got two roasted almond milks and two unroasted. Mr Chook got four of the Koko unsweetened coconut milk (he loves anything made by Koko.) So far we have tested / tasted all of them with the Crusha NAS Banana and I thought the roasted almond tasted nicer, Mr C (of course) thought the Koko unsweetened was best - neither of us much liked the unroasted almond milk but we will drink it until its gone but not buy any more.
 
badcat said:
Found this re sucralose ( which is basically made of sugar where the oxygen in the molecules has been replaced with chlorine - nice!)

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/261179.php

And this re more general question

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/artificial-sweeteners-insulin/

If you google the issue lots of hits come up, some showng a definate assosciation between sweeteners and insulin spikes, others saying the opposite - I guess the message is the old saying of "you pays your money and takes your choice"
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Read your message with interest because I want to reduce my insulin resistance and this worried me. I do have some drinks that contain artificial sweeteners and I also drink soft drinks when out with artificial sweeteners. Not to mention home baked replacement products. And I thought OMG I am making the problem worse!

So I googled it (where else would you start!) and got this

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Artificial sweeteners trigger insulin
No, artificial sweeteners do not trigger an insulin response. The mechanisms behind insulin release from the pancreas are caused primarily from glucose interacting with specific cells called beta cells. This interaction is very specific to the molecular structure of glucose.
"

It is so emphatic it worried me more. Nothing in life is this definitive is it?
More research to do....
 
Fleegle said:
Read your message with interest because I want to reduce my insulin resistance and this worried me. I do have some drinks that contain artificial sweeteners and I also drink soft drinks when out with artificial sweeteners. Not to mention home baked replacement products. And I thought OMG I am making the problem worse!

So I googled it (where else would you start!) and got this

"
Artificial sweeteners trigger insulin
No, artificial sweeteners do not trigger an insulin response. The mechanisms behind insulin release from the pancreas are caused primarily from glucose interacting with specific cells called beta cells. This interaction is very specific to the molecular structure of glucose.
"

It is so emphatic it worried me more. Nothing in life is this definitive is it?
More research to do....
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I don't think that can be said so authoritatively.. I have also read elsewhere that all sorts of things can trigger an insulin response including chewing gum. So I guess its hard to know for sure so for safeties sake I don't have them.
 
Chook said:
I got it in Asda. :)
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Oh good! I'll pop to Asda sometime. I ordered more Vanilla from Tesco.com and it was sold out so was substituted with Strawberry which I've now tried and enjoyed :)
 
Chook said:
Asda have got a special offer on at the moment. Four cartons of various different milks for £4. I got two roasted almond milks and two unroasted. Mr Chook got four of the Koko unsweetened coconut milk (he loves anything made by Koko.) So far we have tested / tasted all of them with the Crusha NAS Banana and I thought the roasted almond tasted nicer, Mr C (of course) thought the Koko unsweetened was best - neither of us much liked the unroasted almond milk but we will drink it until its gone but not buy any more.
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Tesco have a similar offer, 3 cartons for £3! I agree the roasted version is nicer but I too will use up the unroasted first, luckily I only bought one! I'm going to have to disagree with Mr Chook I'm not keen on coconut!
 
Rachox said:
Tesco have a similar offer, 3 cartons for £3! I agree the roasted version is nicer but I too will use up the unroasted first, luckily I only bought one! I'm going to have to disagree with Mr Chook I'm not keen on coconut!
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No, neither am I.

At least I've got him off his fixation with low carb home made coconut flour naan breads - they were truly disgusting.


Rachox said:
Oh good! I'll pop to Asda sometime. I ordered more Vanilla from Tesco.com and it was sold out so was substituted with Strawberry which I've now tried and enjoyed :)
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I think I'll try the strawberry one next. I'm not keen on chocolate 'flavour' although I do love my daily treat of two squares of 90% Lindt.
 
Chook said:
No, neither am I.

At least I've got him off his fixation with low carb home made coconut flour naan breads - they were truly disgusting.
Now they sound horrible!

I think I'll try the strawberry one next. I'm not keen on chocolate 'flavour' although I do love my daily treat of two squares of 90% Lindt.
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Strangely as I started this post trying to find a cold alternative for the summer to replace my winter hot chocolate, the chocolate milkshake is my least favourite of the four flavours I've tried! Pre diagnosis I was a true chocoholic and I surprise myself every time I say this, but I haven't eaten a single chocolate bar since diagnosis! :woot:
 
bulkbiker said:
I don't think that can be said so authoritatively.. I have also read elsewhere that all sorts of things can trigger an insulin response including chewing gum. So I guess its hard to know for sure so for safeties sake I don't have them.
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I agree. Though I have spent a very little time doing some research this afternoon and there seems to be lots of data backing the "they don't" theory and at some point I have to believe some data. I think if you can avoid them that is the best idea but I am a long long way from that. I try not to have them without something else to eat so insulin would be called for in any case.
 
Rachox said:
Strangely as I started this post trying to find a cold alternative for the summer to replace my winter hot chocolate, the chocolate milkshake is my least favourite of the four flavours I've tried! Pre diagnosis I was a true chocoholic and I surprise myself every time I say this, but I haven't eaten a single chocolate bar since diagnosis! :woot:
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Mr Chook bought me a box of very expensive chocolates for my birthday a couple of weeks ago. They are low carb - 4g of carb per chocolate - and I found them much too sweet and it took me nearly two weeks to get through the box. I prefer the Lindt 90% which isn't sweet at all. In fact I'm finding that I don't much like anything sweet any more at all even something like a home made tomato based sauce to make a bolognaise type sauce can be a bit sweet for me.
 
Chook said:
Mr Chook bought me a box of very expensive chocolates for my birthday a couple of weeks ago. They are low carb - 4g of carb per chocolate - and I found them much too sweet and it took me nearly two weeks to get through the box. I prefer the Lindt 90% which isn't sweet at all. In fact I'm finding that I don't much like anything sweet any more at all even something like a home made tomato based sauce to make a bolognaise type sauce can be a bit sweet for me.
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My hubby and kids have always bought chocolate as a present for me if they couldn't think of anything else. I've said they can buy me clothes shop vouchers now as this weight loss is going to get expensive in the wardrobe department!
 
Rachox said:
My hubby and kids have always bought chocolate as a present for me if they couldn't think of anything else. I've said they can buy me clothes shop vouchers now as this weight loss is going to get expensive in the wardrobe department!
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Most people buy me Amazon vouchers then I can buy whatever I like - usually books or music.
 
Chook said:
Thank you so much for the inspiration. I bought some sugar free roasted almond milk and a bottle of the banana NAS Crusha. I waited until the milk was ice cold then experimented.... tested at 30 mins, 1 hr and 2hrs and no change to BG at all.... and it's not too sweet at all. In fact it was very, very enjoyable
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Finally passed Asda in my travels and bought some banana Crusha. It's my new favourite! Thanks @Chook for pointing out this flavour being available!
 
So my final thoughts on Crusha milkshake in Almond Milk. The Roasted unsweetened milk is much nicer than the UNroasted unsweetened version. The Crusha flavours order of preference is Banana, Vanilla, Raspberry (makes me think of Bakewell tart!), Strawberry then lastly and quite shockingly for a former chocoholic, chocolate comes firmly in last place!
 
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