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Dinet said:
why the cold water?
i also disagree with nic-picking over pittyful amounts of grams of carbs What matters is the bigger picture, i. e. what is sustainable over a loooong period of time.
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In the Middle east and North Africa strong coffee is often taken with water, acts as a sort of chaser and has the effect of extending the flavour of the coffee.
 
Mr_Pot said:
I believe @hichamgsm is in Morocco so that may be a problem. The SD Codefree meter available via Amazon is an alternative, it is not free but cheap and the test strips are less expensive than most.
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Indeed, and the SD strips are a bit cheaper than the TEE2 ones, which does matter in the long and even medium run. The cost of the meter would be quite soon recouped. Personally I am wedded to the SEE@ because it requires a very small blood sample, and my Raynaud's makes providing any sample at all problematic at times.
 
Tipetoo said:
I drink Robert Timms black coffee with no sugar, and with no noticeable raising in my bgls.
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Some research has suggested that drinking coffee dooubles the effect on BG of carbs consumed with it. Personally, I drink the occasional coffee with milk but I would not eat any food containing carbs with it. If I really wanted to do that, or if I wanted to drink coffee regularly, I would test to find out the effect for/on myself.
 
Alexandra100 said:
Some research has suggested that drinking coffee dooubles the effect on BG of carbs consumed with it.
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My coffee drinking is confined to before and during breakfast, where my staple diet of cheese omelettes with non carbiferous fillings such as mushrooms etc.

I also test my bgl before and after meals.

You do not have a link for the research to your statement, which would help your story to have a grain of truth.
 
Tipetoo said:
My coffee drinking is confined to before and during breakfast, where my staple diet of cheese omelettes with non carbiferous fillings such as mushrooms etc.

I also test my bgl before and after meals.

You do not have a link for the research to your statement, which would help your story to have a grain of truth.
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Did you intend to be discourteous here? I have actually given the link to this particular research claim in another thread on coffee elsewhere on this Forum, but if anyone seriously wants to see it here I will dig it out again
 
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As I said I consume omelettes at breakfast, which are basically carb free, and the three or four cups of black sugar free coffee I consume before and during breakfast do not effect my bgl.
 
:banghead: Less than concise piece of science reporting with "may" and "could" and the final paragraph... rich in carbs (ideal for a diabetic) with no mention as to what the caffeinated drink was... hope it wasn't Buckfast. :)
 
hankjam said:
:banghead: Less than concise piece of science reporting with "may" and "could" and the final paragraph... rich in carbs (ideal for a diabetic) with no mention as to what the caffeinated drink was... hope it wasn't Buckfast. :)
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Ii would be the soft drinks that are full of sugar that gets guzzled with a meal that would be the culprit.

I vaguely remember that Buckfast wine, never tried it tho'.
 
Alexandra100 said:
"which would help your story to have a grain of truth" sounded discourteous to me, but I'm glad it was not intentional. Here is the link you requested:
http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/caffeine-and-carbs-dont-mix/
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If caffeine is such a monster, then pin a copy of this to your fridge door
https://cspinet.org/eating-healthy/ingredients-of-concern/caffeine-chart

Edit to add a proper source of info (dated 2012)

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/311180.php

There was a small study done in 1967 that reported doubling of bgl after drinking a small cup of coffee, but that was a health mag, and not a proper study. However, it is often referred to in nature and bodybuilding articles, especially the Mormons and WFPB followers. I think that study was done by the church in Salt Lake uni.
 
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I just switched from caffeinated coffee to decaf for other reasons but now require 1/2 my insulin in the morning. No carb bf. However it could be the morning and adding extra adrenaline and raising cortisol through caffeine as well as the morning beloved hormones waking up. I suppose this is another case of everyone is different. Caffeine acts differently with me later in the day but so does everything.
 
In the study the carbohydrate load the test subjects where given was 90 grams of carbohydrate in liquid form for breakfast their reaction to this bye way of raised blood sugars was modified by the ingestion of caffeine which causes an intensification of the response to the carbs I'm saying stuff the carbs I'll just drink the coffee.
 
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