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Starvation for 5 days in type1 and type2 mice look to restart the pancreas cells.

Interesting
However optifast is doing this already i guess but with 800cal diet rather than 770.
 
I was absolutely devastated with my diagnosis so I did a starvation diet for 5-6 weeks.

My daily food intake was between 400-500 calories per day, sometimes less mainly because I was so scared to eat.

To make a long story short, HBA1C went down from 85 (13%) to 46 (6.4% pre-diabetic range) in just 2 months!

Daily fasting bg readings are now hitting the 4s.

However, I wouldn’t recommend going on a starvation diet without any guidance or supervision from your doctor!
 
I've done the starvation thing and I'm more insulin resistant for it.
Only useful if done permanently but supervised.
 
In type 1's too????

I couldnt eat for a week two years ago and literally survived on water... didnt cure my T1. (Wasnt on drip) but was too ill stomach/colon wise to do anything ekse but water...

Still injecting, didnt cure me..
 
Absolutely appalling article mishmashing DUK, DCUK, Newcastle diet calling it Glasgow university (presumably because Prof Mike Lean is from Glasgow Uni.. Type 2 lazy and overweight and talking about reversal without mentioning any failure rates. Worse than the Daily Fail?
 
NewTD2 said:
I was absolutely devastated with my diagnosis so I did a starvation diet for 5-6 weeks.

My daily food intake was between 400-500 calories per day, sometimes less mainly because I was so scared to eat.

To make a long story short, HBA1C went down from 85 (13%) to 46 (6.4% pre-diabetic range) in just 2 months!

Daily fasting bg readings are now hitting the 4s.

However, I wouldn’t recommend going on a starvation diet without any guidance or supervision from your doctor!
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At least the first time :). After that, and after lots of fasting periods I would say it is completely redundant to have medical supervision, at least it would be in my case. Basically, if you are a regular faster, you become an expert, especially on your own body. Unless lucky enough to have a doctor who is a faster as well? And even then - it would be to contribute to their standard of living, and not to your health ;):). I loved having a great diabetes nurse 'supervise' my own 2 month VLCD some years ago, especially as I was in 'alien' weather conditions, and often foreigners need help from natives in that situation. And medical natives at that. And the medical supervision provides a platform for testing of course. Especially the first time.
 
Yes, very sloppy reporting with inaccuracies all over the shop, such as "Type 2 diabetes is a lifelong condition where your blood glucose level is too high because the body doesn’t make enough of a hormone called insulin." But at least word is spreading that T2 can be reversed, which can only be a good thing.
 
Agree!

I think it’s very wrong of some in the medical profession to claim that T2 diabetes is “progressive”, “irreversible”, “chronic”, and our lives are “cut short” by 10 or 20 years!

How cruel and irresponsible to say things like that and they seem to be playing the role of God.

Watch Dr Jason Fung - for those of you who haven’t seen the videos...


 
NewTD2 said:
Agree!

I think it’s very wrong of some in the medical profession to claim that T2 diabetes is “progressive”, “irreversible”, “chronic”, and our lives are “cut short” by 10 or 20 years!

How cruel and irresponsible to say things like that and they seem to be playing the role of God.

Watch Dr Jason Fung - for those of you who haven’t seen the videos...


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or could it be from their own experience they have seen it is for those that were unfortunate to be able to actively do anything about their condition.
I would suggest, in the scheme of things, in response to the rapid rise in T2 and the uptake, by a small proportion of them, of LC is a bit of an outlier.
 
What I don't understand about these things is, what does it matter if my body grows back some beta cells? Surely my immune system will just destroy them again, so what's the point. Anyway I'm not going to starve for a week!
 
I'm pretty sure that Newsbot did a piece on this study a couple of weeks ago. I can't fast so just skimmed the piece.
 
bulkbiker said:
Absolutely appalling article mishmashing DUK, DCUK, Newcastle diet calling it Glasgow university (presumably because Prof Mike Lean is from Glasgow Uni.. Type 2 lazy and overweight and talking about reversal without mentioning any failure rates. Worse than the Daily Fail?
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I thought you would like this one @bulkbiker.
I find Dr steel OK but often he assures medical correctness first and foremost when covering mishmash journalism. His video reiterated differences between type1 and type2 which always helps. Even he was surprised type1s were benefitting from the diseased mice.
 
Freema said:
Wow that is great news
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I too was surprised the impression it left on the type1 mice.
Strange how there is a common factor when there shouldn't be.

Maybe we are missing something after all?
Maybe diet does make a difference to ALL diabetics. Although that wasn't purpose of the experiment.

Starvation was to see its effects on type2s from what I understand. I think type1s were in there to give a comparison.
However I don't know if sociology came into play and influenced anything, like it does.
Like mentioned above too many unanswered questions from it all.
 
The first two bullet points are:

  • Diabetes type 2 symptoms are mainly caused by lifestyle factors
  • It is a life-long auto-immune condition that causes blood glucose levels to get too high

I think the author might as well have written individual words onto scraps of paper, thrown them into the air, and typed them up however they landed.
 
What a load of crock, type 1 cured, I would gladly be their guinea pig and eat my words if cured after 29 years !!
 
I have a question about mice.

Were these Type 1 mice genuinely type 1 or made type 1 artificially? How the heck did they find genuine type 1 mice and is type 1 prevalent among mice? It has to have been done artificially in my mind, and if so, did that process work properly, or did it interfere in some way with the experiment? I know laboratory mice are specially bred, but ......
 
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