Fruit

[Oldvatr]

May be you've not been eating corn fed ones then - they're definitely yellow.

But seriously, have a look at this article on carotenemia - which comes from a more reputable source than my memory :
https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1104368-overview
Robbity

From memory, the pigmentation described here was not the main problem that caused the story to make the headlines. There was a fad diet of carrot only and some followed that instruction to almost destruction. Carrots do NOT supply our daily needs, and the diet becomes a starvation diet. There was another similar diet of rabbit meat only that also led to starvation conditions. As with all diets, temporary restriction is ok, but prolonged abstinence can be dangerous if taken to extreme,

 

[Robbity]

From memory, the pigmentation described here was not the main problem that caused the story to make the headlines. There was a fad diet of carrot only and some followed that instruction to almost destruction. Carrots do NOT supply our daily needs, and the diet becomes a starvation diet. There was another similar diet of rabbit meat only that also led to starvation conditions. As with all diets, temporary restriction is ok, but prolonged abstinence can be dangerous if taken to extreme,

I agree entirely.
(And I also remember that lean meat rabbit one...and was thinking about it as I posted. )

Robbity

 

[sunburst69]

Eating too much fruit may have contributed to my T2 (Along with gentics, age, being overweight). I have always eaten fruit, about 5-7 pieces a day if you include berries. I also ate "all my vegatables".

It was abit of a surpise to hear it may have contributed, as common knowledge / NHS guidelines tell you that fruit and veg is a good thing. Almost a blessing that I now have Diabetes as it has caused me to revisit most of my thinking on food. Obvioulsy I would prefer not to have it.

There are many good veggies that can be eaten in almost any T2 diet-imho. Not so for fruits in general. I think the consensus is now pointing towards pure fruit juice as NG for diabetics and non-diabetics alike - although they can tolerate some. My low carb diet includes berries and a little apple - I choose not to forego the benefits of fruit, just reduce the amounts.

 

[Resurgam]

Up until I was 7 years old the houses where we lived had large enough gardens for there to be orchards and home grown fruit and vegetables is abundance, and in addition there were chickens and geese - probably other animals too. I used to feed the birds and collect the eggs. Everything tasted different back then. Herbs did not come in small wilted bundles or in bottles, they were usually growing in rampant thickets. Rhubarb was not slender and politely pink but huge and crimson and took some pulling up and getting back to the kitchen. Runner beans were all sorts of strange colours, some were multicolour. I expect that due to the restrictions on cultivars these days many of the things I ate would be illegal seeds these days.

 

[NewTD2]

Tropical fruits are just as bad.

I lived in the Philippines and almost all the trees are fruit bearing and it’s just not beautiful to look at but the taste are just out of this world!

Fruits of the paradise like java plum, chikoo, sweet tamarind, chesa, durian, rambutan, longan, guava, lanzones, mangoes, caimito etc.

All very sweet and delicious!

Shame I can’t have them anymore!

 

[NicoleC1971]

More questions than answers as per usual on a limited time slot popular science issue! I agree withe the comments here and do hate the connoting of fruit as having the equivalent health benefits of vegetables as part of the ' 5 a day'. Its surely all about degrees of harm though. I have heard it said that fhe only point of fruit is that it gets kids to eat their vitamins and minerals but then that is a quite useful point... We know fructose makes our livers then our abdomens fatter if we are genetically inclined to fat storage but I guess the fructose is best taken when surrounded by fibre than in juice or in sucrose as you are unlikely to binge on apples. If you are type 2 I would stick to fruit which has had less time to absorb energy from the sun (Nordic items) and small and fibrous things like berries bearing in mind that we have bred our fruits to be larger and sweeter e.g. giant Florida oranges and Pink Lady apples. Alternatively have it when it is naturally in season and not all year round?