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Pinkorchid
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We can't tell you what to do because we are all different and there is no one way to suit everyone so you have to do what you think is best for you and what you think you can stick to.
The 'not being overweight' is a red herring. This doesn't mean that your diet suits you. Have a look at the foods on this list...
https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/a-few-asking-for-low-carb-food-lists.96321/
You say you don't want to be a slave to diet but you don't realise you already are! You are slave to starchy carbs which are slowly killing you.
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Someone put it like this 'You can't outrun a bad diet'. I am a wheelchair user (not due to Diabetes) and have not excercised at all and yet my HbA1c has more than halved with just changes to diet and taking Metformin. It can be done. There are members who have done extremely well and come off insulin or meds and become diet controlled vastly reducing the risk of complications.
My first comment at diagnosis was "I'm not eating rabbit food and I'm not sticking needles in myself all day long". I was wrong, my lifestyle does not involve rabbit food and although I test every day I am not having to inject every day.
I don't think having a limb amputated would suit anyone. We are trying to stop that happening to the OP. No matter how different we all are we all need to eat a diet that keeps us healthy.
If you’re not keen on the excellent advice offered here @SuttonRider could I suggest a book I’m reading? Diabetes Unpacked (by various authors for the Noakes Foundation) it explains very clearly how T2 diabetes develops, the complications that can occur ( and why) and how it doesn’t have to be a progressive disease - you can do something about it.
It’s very easy to read and doesn’t blind you with science and might help you understand what is happening as you are injecting ever higher doses of insulin.
The Obesity Code by Jason Fung is also excellent. I’d highly recommend either of these.
It’s very easy to read and doesn’t blind you with science and might help you understand what is happening as you are injecting ever higher doses of insulin.
The Obesity Code by Jason Fung is also excellent. I’d highly recommend either of these.
I agree with @Guzzler about not being able to outrun a bad diet. Until I had my successful, well healed foot operation before Xmas my exercise levels were virtually nil. I now walk every day but that’s my limit due to osteoarthritis, yet I maintain consistently non diabetic levels with diet and tablets. Anyway I feel we, well intentioned people, are wasting our time 
I’m out of here.....
I’m out of here.....
Pinkorchid
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I think that is scaremongering and does not help. We are here to encourage people to find what is right for them to do not scare them
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Well looks like I'm in trouble. I've seen that list before. I can't eat much in the way of veg, fruit or nuts, no fish either. I'm OK on chicken, cheese and water.
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You asked for advice and have been given it from our own experience of what has worked. Perhaps you are confusing 'low calorie' with 'low carb' they are not the same. By reducing the amount of carbs you put into your body your blood sugar will come down, maybe not immediately but given a little while and with a regular testing regime you will see an improvement. What is more you will find that you do not necessarily lose weight if you do not need to (contrary to the media depiction of T2 diabetics not all need to lose weight on diagnosis), nor do you lose energy - if anything you have more. You can enjoy a varied diet of delicious food without 'filling up' on carb heavy food. When I open my lunch at work colleagues are interested in what I have to eat that day, and those passing through always comment on how delicious it smells. I do not go hungry and I do eat out without embarrassing anyone. What convinced me to change my ways was by seeing how my body reacted to what I was eating by keeping a food diary for a month and testing 2 hours after each meal. I do not miss pasta, or potatoes, although the smell of toast has me drooling but I value my eyesight and my toes more than a piece of toast. It is not a 'crank' diet and it is sustainable over the long term. The decision is yours...
I wish someone had scared a dear family friend who ended up losing a leg. She wasn't overweight, exercised regularly, took her insulin and religiously followed the Eat Well Plate. I would rather scare someone than scar them.
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Yes, just Lantus. I've tried all the types of pills they do nothing. I've tried a low carb, again it made no difference to the BS.
I stumbled on low carbing on my own. I wasn't diabetic then, but knew I was well on the way. Instead of a bacon butty I had bacon with butter. All the tasty elements were still there and I never really missed the bread. Adding the butter made all the difference.
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Interesting - I'll give that a go. Thanks.
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OK, thanks. (I use Lantus.)
Lantus is a basal insulin. It (in therory.) works for 22/24 hours. It acts in the background on your fasting blood sugar levels.
Unfortunately. It won't deal with the carbs you eat in a meal.
your insulin regime will need a review with your HCPs.
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Oh. My insulin regime has been under constant review since just before last Christmas. From what you are saying there doesn't seem much point to taking Lantus. I should be on short acting insulin.
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No, continue with your Lantus. Looks like you possibly need a basal bolus regime. Additional short acting insulin injections for your meals.
Discuss this with your doctor..
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One other question @SuttonRider .
What are your blood sugar levels doing through the day? Give us a breakdown on morning levels, before meals, 2 hours later & before bed.
To other members; please don't back off the support because captain Lantus is here!
What are your blood sugar levels doing through the day? Give us a breakdown on morning levels, before meals, 2 hours later & before bed.
To other members; please don't back off the support because captain Lantus is here!
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But I think scaring them about what might happen to them...but hopefully never will.. is not the right way to go it is more likely to make them run a mile Trying to make them think they will loose limbs if the do not low carb is not right because we do not know that. Yes of course encourage them to have a better diet but not by scaring them with something that we cannot possibly predict will happen to them. We do our best to lower the risk of complications by doing low carb but it has yet to be proved or not that it does
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