Interesting. The current advise to have 1/3 of your calories in the form of carbs has got a lot to answer for. I, for one have benefited a lot by not following the current guidelines, having thrown away 3 different prescribed drugs.
In the interests of fairness, I must mention that I know several people who would be unable to follow a low carb diet for health reasons, my wife included. I've seen her when she's tried to cut carbs and when she goes "weak and wobbly" as she calls it, she's close to collapsing. I also know several people who can eat like a horse and eat a lot more than me, but are considerably lighter than me. I think the major problem with the advice is that they've tried for the one size fits all and it doesn't work. We are all so very different.
I suffer with severe weakness but not sure if it's definitely low carb diet manifesting the problem.Interesting. The current advise to have 1/3 of your calories in the form of carbs has got a lot to answer for. I, for one have benefited a lot by not following the current guidelines, having thrown away 3 different prescribed drugs.
In the interests of fairness, I must mention that I know several people who would be unable to follow a low carb diet for health reasons, my wife included. I've seen her when she's tried to cut carbs and when she goes "weak and wobbly" as she calls it, she's close to collapsing. I also know several people who can eat like a horse and eat a lot more than me, but are considerably lighter than me. I think the major problem with the advice is that they've tried for the one size fits all and it doesn't work. We are all so very different.
We don’t need carbs since they are not essential
Sounds like a classic case of "keto flu" which after a few days goes away once your body gets used to running on fat rather than carbs.They may not be "essential" and I certainly don't need the amount currently recommended. However, when I tried the Atkins diet which starts with zero carb, I experienced headaches, fatigue, weakness, difficulty concentrating, nausea, constipation, bad breath, basically the sort of things I was warned about before trying zero carb. We're better off with some carbs, my weight by date software calculates that I get 40 gms carb from all the veg I eat.
after a few days goes away
I stuck at it for three weeks, just felt awful. I did a little googling and as you say it should only last a few days, however, I found one article which adds "although could be 1-2 weeks for some unlucky people with high metabolic resistance". In my case I was taking Rosiglitazone at the time, so many years ago. My weight increased to 163 kgs without eating more or exercising less (although the heavier I got, the more difficult exercise became) and in fact trying to eat less, hence a stab at Atkins. I'm guessing I would come under the "high metabolic resistance" category. The weight loss didn't start until I came off Rosiglitazone, thanks to my liver function deteriorating. Again, no change in diet. I blame Rosiglitazone for a lot, I feel it messed my metabolism up considerably and obviously messed the liver function up which is all connected. I blame my GP's ridiculous attitude to my weight gain for a lot, but that's another story.
Pleased to say that cutting carbs to 40gms per day has not had anything like the same effect as going for zero carbs. I'm more than happy with the way I feel, mentally and physically, just need to shed a few more stone (6 actually).
I bet mine causing palpatations would have persisted until heart damaged.... I'm sooooo resistant.I stuck at it for three weeks, just felt awful. I did a little googling and as you say it should only last a few days, however, I found one article which adds "although could be 1-2 weeks for some unlucky people with high metabolic resistance". In my case I was taking Rosiglitazone at the time, so many years ago. My weight increased to 163 kgs without eating more or exercising less (although the heavier I got, the more difficult exercise became) and in fact trying to eat less, hence a stab at Atkins. I'm guessing I would come under the "high metabolic resistance" category. The weight loss didn't start until I came off Rosiglitazone, thanks to my liver function deteriorating. Again, no change in diet. I blame Rosiglitazone for a lot, I feel it messed my metabolism up considerably and obviously messed the liver function up which is all connected. I blame my GP's ridiculous attitude to my weight gain for a lot, but that's another story.
Pleased to say that cutting carbs to 40gms per day has not had anything like the same effect as going for zero carbs. I'm more than happy with the way I feel, mentally and physically, just need to shed a few more stone (6 actually).
Is the weight still coming off now with 40g carbs?
Bariatric team have seen it all. Mine are excellent.
Can that even be repeated often enough? It's scary. "It is estimated that prescribed medication is the third most common cause of death after heart disease and cancer.". Big pharma = Big business.
Just for fun I checked the Danish recommendations, and they're just as bad. (I translated a few words, hence the weird Danglish)
- 45-60 procent fra kulhydrat, of which max. 10 procent added sugar.
- 25-40 procent fra fedt
- 10-20 procent fra protein
The Panel conclusions are summarised below:
- The intake of total carbohydrates - including carbohydrates from starchy foods such as potatoes and pasta, and from simple carbohydrates such as sugars - should range from 45 to 60% of the total energy intake for both adults and children.
I bet your kidney health is effected by estrogen. Excellent kidney health, I would have thought?No, not exactly. I'm trying to do two things at once, lower my weight and stabalise my BG as it seems that without carbs my body is more than happy to convert protein. I'm attaching a graph which shows very clearly what happens after having 2 fried eggs for breakfast on a rare occasion where I was fed up and felt like a "treat". My regime since January 1st has been, by and large, as follows:
Monday - Friday No breakfast, Mediterranean vegetables for lunch (usually in a soup, maybe roasted with 100gms grated cheese), dinner - more veg, either Mediterranean veg roasted or steamed broccoli, cauliflower, leeks, brussel sprouts, runner beans.
Saturday breakfast - 2 poached eggs, 2 breakfast mushrooms (instead of toast), lunch - good old Mediterranean veg, dinner - as before plus meat of some sort.
Sunday breakfast - 2 slices Hovis 50% carb bread (toasted), 2 rashers of unadulterated back (greenback), lunch and dinner same as Saturday.
I eat about 250gms of mixed nuts a week, so almost 40gms a day (240 cals a day, quite a lot) and I have been known to have 0% yogurt with some blueberries, but not regularly.
I'm not suggesting this is a perfect, decent or good diet or one that anyone should follow, it seems to work in stablising my BG and initially helping me lose weight. I have been on a plateau for about 8 weeks but at least I'm 12 kgs lighter than on January 1st.
I've been in pursuit of losing weight for several years and I have never given up, and certainly have never eaten what the Harris Benedict formula said I should. That in itself could easily be part of the problem. It's been 5 years since I gave up bread/potato/rice/pasta/, 10 years since I gave up alcohol and nearly 30 years since I gave up processed foods. My GP can only say that my metabolism is broken and absolutely no idea of how to fix it. For me, losing weight is well beyond eating less and exercising more, it doesn't work for me. However, I have managed to establish several things that could all have something to do with my broken metabolism, thanks to several blood tests that the Nutritional Therapist I have been working with, has sent me for.
I am insulin resistant, I have high cortisone levels, I have high estrogen levels (always knew I was in touch with my feminine side LOL), I have NAFL, I have poor sleep (no blood required LOL) and if I understood more about the Kreb cycle I'd know more about ATP and ADP and how that goes towards muscle weakness. These are all things that effect whether one converts energy to fat of uses it in the muscles. Not straight forward or something I'll pretend to be an expert on. I'm just trying bit by bit to get the very bottom and I feel that I'm getting very close. I'll get there one day.
The attached PDF shows the result of 2 fried eggs and two microwaved breakfast mushrooms (saucer sized).
Which of course would be challenging because then we'd be challenging the junk food industry, who spend millions to lobby that their products are just fine.
I bet your kidney health is effected by estrogen. Excellent kidney health, I would have thought?