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Type of diabetes
Type 2
i have type 2 diabetes and am i will admit quite overweight i am trying to lose weight and have lost some but has now reached a point im not losing much more i have changed my diet as much as i can but i find it hard as most people can switch to more veg and salad etc but in my case i am intolerant to most of the veg and salad stuff as it gives my violent stomach cramps and upset stomachs and sweats so when anyone goes oh well eat more greens etc i could scream as i would if i could not even the docs etc want to help me so i feel like im banging my head against a brick wall im due to start trulicity today as my bloods keep coming back high if anyone could offer any suggestions i would be really greatful as this is starting to really get me down now and is making my dpression and anxiety get bad again i really want to be healthier in eating. ty in advance for any help you can give
 
i have type 2 diabetes and am i will admit quite overweight i am trying to lose weight and have lost some but has now reached a point im not losing much more i have changed my diet as much as i can but i find it hard as most people can switch to more veg and salad etc but in my case i am intolerant to most of the veg and salad stuff as it gives my violent stomach cramps and upset stomachs and sweats so when anyone goes oh well eat more greens etc i could scream as i would if i could not even the docs etc want to help me so i feel like im banging my head against a brick wall im due to start trulicity today as my bloods keep coming back high if anyone could offer any suggestions i would be really greatful as this is starting to really get me down now and is making my dpression and anxiety get bad again i really want to be healthier in eating. ty in advance for any help you can give
Hi and welcome to the forum. I will tag in @daisy1 who has some info for newcomers.

Trulicity is one option but there are many others. Do you have a meter to test your own blood glucose levels at home? If so, what are your levels like at the moment? Have you been prescribed any medications already, such as Metformin or other meds?
 
@fallenangel238
Could try getting back to the very basics. If you own a set of kitchen scales I suggest you weigh your food and work out how many kJ ( or calories if you prefer ) you are actually eating. If you are not losing weight then you are eating the same amount of kJ as what you use. The key will be to reduce the intake below what your requirements are. You will then tap into your fat reserves. It is a slight oversimplification but sustained reduction in kJ intake does work over time.
 
Hello and welcome to the forum. It would help us a lot if you could say what changes you have made to your diet, a typical day's menu perhaps.

Have a wander around the forum and ask as many questions as you like.
 
Hi and welcome to the forum. I will tag in @daisy1 who has some info for newcomers.

Trulicity is one option but there are many others. Do you have a meter to test your own blood glucose levels at home? If so, what are your levels like at the moment? Have you been prescribed any medications already, such as Metformin or other meds?
i have had metformin but they had to stop that as it was making me really ill so i had canagliflozin to take along side linagliptin but they had to stop that also now i have linagliptin and gliclazide to take aswell as them starting me on the injections my bllods average 9 to 11 before food an upto after i have true you testing strips and blood moniter
 
Oh sorry, how rude of me. Welcome aboard.
Glenn
hi im sharon i have switched to low carb bread not that i eat much bread anyway and switched from sugar to sugar alternative for my moring cuppa etc i try to eat less pasta etc and have pretty much cut chocolate out and fatty foods like takeaways etc i never fry things if i have sasuages etc they are low fat and oven done etc
 
Hi, welcome to the forum. What are you usually eating? It must be hard not being able to have the veg. Sometimes stalls in weight loss are only temporary and will last for a few days. Don’t forget to use a tape measure too as you may be building up muscle (which is heavier) but still slimming down.
 
I lost weight on insulin and a few veg no fruit but its imperative to supplement with multivitamins and iron.
No veg isn't a huge problem.
What protein food are you eating? Are your sausages high quality in meat?
Try and not eat too much cheese or nuts but definitely have them.

Are you hungry alot?
 
hi im sharon i have switched to low carb bread not that i eat much bread anyway and switched from sugar to sugar alternative for my moring cuppa etc i try to eat less pasta etc and have pretty much cut chocolate out and fatty foods like takeaways etc i never fry things if i have sasuages etc they are low fat and oven done etc
You will find that it will be all forms of carbs that need to be curtailed. If you use a meter before meals and then a couple of hours after it won't take long to work out how many of these insidious carbs you can manage without busting glucose levels. Everybody is unfortunately an individual and what works for me is no guarantee for you. In that sense, you won't have to worry too much about low fat stuff. Have a read around the forum and you'll get the hang of it. By cutting out a lot of carbs you will see that it also will decrease your kJ intake and be a friend for weight loss. Basically, keep the carbs low and count up the total kJ. both glucose and weight will come down over time.
 
i never fry things if i have sasuages etc they are low fat and oven done etc

Fatty food happens to be part of the solution...roast meat helps keeps my glucose level flat...
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@fallenangel238

Hello Fallenangel and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it both interesting and useful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why
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I’ve tried many diets over the years to lose weight, but the only one that has worked is low carbing which I started for my Diabetes. I’ve lost a shed load of weight whilst getting my blood sugars back to normal too. BUT if you want to go down this route you’ll have to be very careful as you are on blood sugar reducing meds so you’ll risk hypos if you don’t reduce carbs gradually.You need to consult with your health professionals too as you may need to reduce your meds in due course.
 
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