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Diagnosed Recently, When Will I Stop Feeling Rotten All The Time

AlysonJoy

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I was diagnosed from blood tests about a month ago. I didnt take it in at first as they also told me at same time I had fatty liver, so I obsessed about that for a while, then went back, saw another GP who told me to book in with the nurse for diabetic information and she would put me right. I was also referred for DESMOND. Well the first nurse appointment is 4th September, and I feel fairly rotten all the time. I bought a blood glucose test kit and Im just learning how to use it. I have tried to cut my carbs right down but what is the biggest problem for me is that I feel constantly nauseated. When I got up I didnt want to eat, and I wanted to go back to bed. I was so queasy I couldnt finish a cup of tea. So I didnt dehydrate I kept sipping water. and managed to get some bacon and eggs round 2pm. I feel really really rotten like I have some sort of flu.

Is this what happens and will it go away?
 
I was diagnosed from blood tests about a month ago. I didnt take it in at first as they also told me at same time I had fatty liver, so I obsessed about that for a while, then went back, saw another GP who told me to book in with the nurse for diabetic information and she would put me right. I was also referred for DESMOND. Well the first nurse appointment is 4th September, and I feel fairly rotten all the time. I bought a blood glucose test kit and Im just learning how to use it. I have tried to cut my carbs right down but what is the biggest problem for me is that I feel constantly nauseated. When I got up I didnt want to eat, and I wanted to go back to bed. I was so queasy I couldnt finish a cup of tea. So I didnt dehydrate I kept sipping water. and managed to get some bacon and eggs round 2pm. I feel really really rotten like I have some sort of flu.

Is this what happens and will it go away?

Alyson - Hello and welcome. I'll tag my colleague @daisy1 who posts some incredibly helpful information. Hopefully, you'll find that helpful too.

I can't tell from your post or your profile if you're taking any diabetes medication, as some of those can sometimes cause a bit of nausea if you're unlucky. If you take any meds, please let us know, as that could impact one any suggestions people make.

Some also find that changing their diet upsets their system a bit to begin with, as their body gets used to it.
 
Hi @AlysonJoy welcome to the group:) As @DCUKMod has said the more information we have the more we can help. You are in the right place for all the help, advice and support you need. So any questions ask away.:happy: When did you cut your carbs? did you increase fat intake at the same time? :)
 
many have kind of flu-like symptoms when going lower in carbs because one's body has been used to being too high all the time, and then initially reacts to one lowering carb level/blood glucose levels... this will disappear if you keep your nose in the track
 
I’m guessing it’s one of three things. If you’ve been started on meds it may be side effects. You say you’re testing your blood sugar levels, what are they? Are they still high? However I think most likely is carb flu or Keto flu. You have lowered your carb intake maybe drastically, that can cause a flu like illness. Keep at it the symptoms should pass in a day or two.
 
To relieve Keto or Low Carb nausea (if that’s what it is) increase your salt intake for a few days. And increase your fluids, a cup of stock (made with a stock cube will do, make sure it’s not low salt) twice a day will eliminate this. It occurs because a low carb diet is naturally diuretic, you pee more and pee out too many electrolytes (Sodium and sometimes Potassium). Drinking plenty and stock may well do the trick.
 
What are your blood sugars according to your meter, what medication are you on, and did those symptoms start after starting medication?
 
@AlysonJoy

Hello AlysonJoy and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

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