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@Robinredbreast . Sounds like tomorrow is already planned. Sounds like a very lucky young lady, tv, cake and a great mum.
I’m doing good. Finally moved and settled in our new bungalow, stress personified prior to the actual move but compared to your past few months I had it easy.
Really nice to see you back. After all you are the founder of the best thread on the forum.:)
 
Scott-C said:
I had an amusing conversation with a dietician from my DAFNE course who asked about the libre/blucon/xdrip rig, "is this, you know, legal?"

As a middle aged guy who is now thinking ahead to how my retirement is going to pan out, I quite like the idea that I'm running some dodgy, cutting edge, illegal stuff on my arm!

The next edition of Grand Theft Auto is going to have a character wired up with this sort of stuff...
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The good thing with middle age is that the younger generation can be quite gullible.
That dodgy thing on your arm, could, with a straight face be the latest technology in mobile phone technology.
I’m still amazed what I get some of the 20 something yr old blokes at work believing.
 
therower said:
@Robinredbreast . Sounds like tomorrow is already planned. Sounds like a very lucky young lady, tv, cake and a great mum.
I’m doing good. Finally moved and settled in our new bungalow, stress personified prior to the actual move but compared to your past few months I had it easy.
Really nice to see you back. After all you are the founder of the best thread on the forum.:)
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Haha, thank you you say the nicest things. I have been in the same house for 4 decades, but if I could move it to the countryside/ a village, I would love that, as long as I was near to a bus stop.
 
helensaramay said:
I was nowhere near tempted until my latest Glimp experience (i’m an Android gal so no xDrip+ for me) which is certainly better than the LibreLink (i’ve been running both some of the time so have a chance to compare). However, I still find it lacking and not accurate enough.
I work on a network performance management tool that allows the user to do all sorts of alerting, baselining, graphing, etc which I would like to see on some of the CGM apps. For example, alert if I am below 5.0 and the trend over the last 15 minutes is falling faster than 1 unit every 30 minutes.
I think one problem for me is that I am rarely “stable”. My BG falls quickly when I do cardio and can rise quickly when I eat (if I haven’t pre bolused far enough ahead). As a result, I usually feel hypo or hyper before the alert (which is one reason why I want the combined conditions) and the poor device isn’t sure what to use for calibration.

If I could get the NHS to fund the Libre, even occasionally, I would think more seriously about getting a Miao Miao to “play” with.
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xDrip+ is developed for Android - Spike is the iOS app. There is so much inside xDrip+ once you start looking around in the settings (although I haven't ventured into engineering mode just yet!). It takes a bit of setting up but if you like things to work the way you want them you should be reasonably happy with it - some personal highlights I've found:
  • Predictive curves based on insulin/carb ratios and insulin sensitivity throughout the day.
  • Persistent notification with current BG number (and trend arrow) - great with Always on Display if your Android has it.
  • Alerts. So many types and customization (as a bonus they work with notification channels on Android 8.0+). Smart alerting/snoozing, high/low warnings and events which can be set to reraise, low forecasting (with optional alarm), falling/rising fast alerts etc.
  • Calibrations can be automatic based on xDrip's algorithims or at fixed intervals.
  • Ability to customize the graph colours to look exactly the way you want.
  • Configuration easily transferable via file or QR code.
  • Speak readings with TTS - useful if you're not using Always on Display or can't touch the phone for some reason. Will tell you the number and the direction as they come in and can easily be toggled off/on.
  • Update channels - depending on how cutting edge you want to be; stable through to nightly.
There's other stuff I haven't yet touched like Wear OS support (which I think Scott-C uses) and Nightscout integration.

I'm with you on getting the sensors - I was given a few on a prescription so once I'm out that's it until I go begging for more or stash enough cash to fund another couple.

helensaramay said:
Dexcom has the fast rising and falling but it ignores the starting (or ending) values.

I wonder why there is more on the iPhone, most techies I know are anti-Apple because they stole one of the open source Linux distributions and I’d expect the geeks writing these apps to care about these things as much as the market share.
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xDrip has these same alerts in the settings - see here for an overview of alerts and notifications available. I don't feel like I'm missing anything in comparison to Spike and there is an active xDrip community on Github if I get stuck.
 
therower said:
The good thing with middle age is that the younger generation can be quite gullible.
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Aren't they just?! Endless wind-up possibilities, although I do try to steer them in the right direction now and then....

Now, where's that barmaid from last night...
 
helensaramay said:
Dexcom has the fast rising and falling but it ignores the starting (or ending) values.

I wonder why there is more on the iPhone, most techies I know are anti-Apple because they stole one of the open source Linux distributions and I’d expect the geeks writing these apps to care about these things as much as the market share.
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xDrip does both too, so Android has the same as the iPhone.

I reckon it mostly has to do with what whoever started writing it uses. These are practical open-source apps, not things to make money, so market-share isn't terribly relevant. (though there is a certain amount of critical mass going on too, which probably explains why there's one top contender per OS).
 
Scott-C said:
I had an amusing conversation with a dietician from my DAFNE course who asked about the libre/blucon/xdrip rig, "is this, you know, legal?"
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Well, have you read the Ts+Cs for what we're using? Big letters strongly telling us all to definitely not even slightly do what we're doing with them :-)

(I know why they say that, it just amuses me)
 
db89 said:
Predictive curves based on insulin/carb ratios and insulin sensitivity throughout the day.
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Those predictions are a really powerful tool in dealing with our messy little T1 friend.

They're like a bolus wizard on steroids - we can sort of almost see the future.

Paying a bit of attention to the sort of stuff xdrip tells us about pre-bolusing, how the predictions look,, has been hugely valuable for me.
 
Scott-C said:
Those predictions are a really powerful tool in dealing with our messy little T1 friend.

They're like a bolus wizard on steroids - we can sort of almost see the future.

Paying a bit of attention to the sort of stuff xdrip tells us about pre-bolusing, how the predictions look,, has been hugely valuable for me.
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Absolutely - whilst I've had these sensors and that predictive curve on I've been able to confirm what I thought was happening with my pre-bolus timings throughout the day and it's given me the confidence to split bolus (up to 3 times once) and sometimes using leg vs abdomen to tweak absorption to keep things nicely in range. As long as you can trust your calibration and you've fed it the correct info it's a powerful tool.
 
A Libre reader question, I've put 3 screen shot thumbnails on another thread and the screen has removed an apple, it changed from 4 days to 3 days too giving me that hypo bleep just to annoy me, and over the weekend when I was correcting loads it kept removing the needle sign, is this a common thing or is my second reader coming to an end?

Not the beep but it removing icons?
 
evilclive said:
Well, have you read the Ts+Cs for what we're using? Big letters strongly telling us all to definitely not even slightly do what we're doing with them :)

(I know why they say that, it just amuses me)
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When I was at the mandatory libre induction session for getting it free on script, I ended up talking to a guy who was looping off-plan.

We both said, "risks, they're talking to us about risks? We inject stuff every day which might kill us if we get it wrong, do they really think we don't know how to assess risk?"
 
Scott-C said:
When I was at the mandatory libre induction session for getting it free on script, I ended up talking to a guy who was looping off-plan.

We both said, "risks, they're talking to us about risks? We inject stuff every day which might kill us if we get it wrong, do they really think we don't know how to assess risk?"
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I have probably been boring people rigid in real life explaining the sheer wonder that things like xDrip/Spike are. Libre isn't really disruptive (*), it's still the fully approved medical industry in operation, but these apps are geniunely disruptive, in the same way Linux was (**). By ignoring all the medical approval rules and instead just writing the code they're able to do things quicker and take more risks than the industry can - which, for applications where the implications of mistakes aren't too bad, can be a really good thing. Of course they've also got a decent test group now, so problems will be found fairly quickly.
(examples of where the implications of mistakes were bad - Thalidomide, Therac-25 - the latter being software)

(* not disruptive, but still impressively good)
(** not necessarily taking over the desktop world, but a licence-free reliable OS makes millions of devices (routers, etc) much easier)
 
Good morning y'all, 4.9 waking and I'm surprised how much disruption moving an injection caused, but I'm glad I've moved it I think, still feels odd having my night time jab on a morning though :)

An interesting tweet - https://twitter.com/DrAndrewGreen/status/1052089029959790592 regarding the Libre....
 
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@helensaramay Yeah slept well thanks however was running mid 2 all night.

As for accuracy of these bits of witch craft we have on out arms and phones :hilarious: not sure what I have dine but xDrip said 6.4 level bloods were at 10.8 :shifty: (official Libre Etch A Sketch said 7.8) I think I might start using this lot to get my lottery numbers :rolleyes:

Time to have a fiddle me thinks.
 
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