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Back when I was a child in the 1950s and '60s we were "officially afraid" of the Russians. We had fallout shelters in communities -- our nearest was the basement recreation room of our church, directly under the sanctuary; sensible place I guess! it had a pool table, shuffleboard courts, and a piano -- but the nearest rest room was way down the hall ... No one in our neighborhood dug their own backyard shelter. Schools had "evacuations" -- I never knew what they were for when I was that age. My parents' concession to the "fear" was two old cereal bowls and a handheld can opener in the basement. We later used the bowls for our cat. ...

I don't remember people being officially "afraid" of anything in the '70s, except maybe roving hippies. ...

Then in the '80s "everyone" was "afraid" of AIDs and we were all gonna catch it and die. ...
Dentists starting wearing rubber gloves (which tasted yucky) and face masks, which were almost as scary as AIDs ...

I spent much of the '90s afraid of tornadoes and getting snowed in with elderly parents, isolated from ambulances and paramedics who wouldn't have been able to traverse the snowy roads to get to us ...
Didn't need them ... lived through it, didn't even go hungry, and had plenty of real wool blankets to keep warm. ..
House was surrounded by trees but not a single one fell in a snowstorm or tornado ... house still standing AFAIK ...

Then came Y2K ... watched the fireworks 'round the world ... woke up the next morning to electricity, running water, and banks being closed for one day only, as normal on New Year's Day ...

Then came the attack on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon ... everybody was afraid of the Muslims ... except for the Muslims, who were afraid of everybody else ... we were all afraid of getting anthrax from mail and the post office stopped selling stamped envelopes, which meant we had to lick our own (risking anthrax -- or was that the day of self-stick stamps?) ...

Now people who aren't old enough to remember the '50s and '60s or even the early '80s want me to be terrified of COVID 19 or whatever it's called (I wish they'd decide on a name and stick to it) ...
Actually they're so young they probably don't care whether I'm afraid or not, since I'm over 60 and therefore not worth much in their eyes. ... just someone to either be humored, or hurried along in the checkout line at the grocery store ...

Which is a pity, because I could tell them that in the '50s and '60s and '80s and '90s and '00s the stores didn't run out of toilet paper or soap and until this millennium (IIRC) we didn't have hand sanitizer ... although there was a big acetaminophen brand-name scare in one of those decades ...
 
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SaskiaKC said:
Back when I was a child in the 1950s and '60s we were afraid of the Russians. We had fallout shelters in communities -- our nearest was the basement recreation room of our church, directly under the sanctuary; sensible place I guess! it had a pool table, shuffleboard courts, and a piano -- but the nearest rest room was way down the hall ... No one in our neighborhood dug their own backyard shelter. Schools had "evacuations" -- I never knew what they were for when I was that age. My parents' concession to the "fear" was two old cereal bowls and a handheld can opener in the basement. We later used the bowls for our cat. ...

I don't remember people being officially "afraid" of anything in the '70s, except maybe roving hippies. ...

Then in the '80s "everyone" was "afraid" of AIDs and we were all gonna catch it and die. ...
Dentists starting wearing rubber gloves (which tasted yucky) and face masks, which were almost as scary as AIDs ...

I spent much of the '90s afraid of tornadoes and getting snowed in with elderly parents, isolated from ambulances and paramedics who wouldn't have been able to traverse the snowy roads to get to us ...
Didn't need them ... lived through it, didn't even go hungry, and had plenty of real wool blankets to keep warm. ..
House was surrounded by trees but not a single one fell in a snowstorm or tornado ... house still standing AFAIK ...

Then came Y2K ... watched the fireworks 'round the world ... woke up the next morning to electricity, running water, and banks being closed for one day only, as normal on New Year's Day ...

Then came the attack on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon ... everybody was afraid of the Muslims ... except for the Muslims, who were afraid of everybody else ... we were all afraid of getting anthrax from mail and the post office stopped selling stamped envelopes, which meant we had to lick our own (risking anthrax -- or was that the day of self-stick stamps?) ...

Now people who aren't old enough to remember the '50s and '60s or even the early '80s want me to be terrified of COVID 19 or whatever it's called (I wish they'd decide on a name and stick to it) ...
Actually they're so young they probably don't care whether I'm afraid or not, since I'm over 60 and therefore not worth much in their eyes. ... just someone to either be humored, or hurried along in the checkout line at the grocery store ...
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Gosh! A lot of truth in that sadly Saskia.
 
jjraak said:
just that in the circumstances you would think it might be allowed, perhaps.
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I have a friend who is a judge & sits regularly the courts are not offering any extra protection ATM...incidentally he & his wife came back from a trip to Japan six days ago...there is no reason why the barristers & solicitors cannot ask for a special dispensation on bringing anti-bacterial wipes into the court rooms after it's been checked...I'm taking mine on prison & police stations visits and will be using them too.
 
I finally made up my mind to get dressed and go out for a walk.
After I finished dressing I was so worn out I had to sit down and rest. ...

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SaskiaKC said:
I finally made up my mind to get dressed and go out for a walk.
After I finished dressing I was so worn out I had to sit down and rest. ...

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I was just thinking of exercising my gamers skills in Fallout 4 for my new wardrobe to go out in.
Having survived my trip across town (so far anyway) I called into my local co-op store and lo and behold... all the loo rolls and sanitizer have gone. They did have crumpets so I was chilled out about it :)

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SaskiaKC said:
Back when I was a child in the 1950s and '60s we were "officially afraid" of the Russians. We had fallout shelters in communities -- our nearest was the basement recreation room of our church, directly under the sanctuary; sensible place I guess! it had a pool table, shuffleboard courts, and a piano -- but the nearest rest room was way down the hall ... No one in our neighborhood dug their own backyard shelter. Schools had "evacuations" -- I never knew what they were for when I was that age. My parents' concession to the "fear" was two old cereal bowls and a handheld can opener in the basement. We later used the bowls for our cat. ...

I don't remember people being officially "afraid" of anything in the '70s, except maybe roving hippies. ...

Then in the '80s "everyone" was "afraid" of AIDs and we were all gonna catch it and die. ...
Dentists starting wearing rubber gloves (which tasted yucky) and face masks, which were almost as scary as AIDs ...

I spent much of the '90s afraid of tornadoes and getting snowed in with elderly parents, isolated from ambulances and paramedics who wouldn't have been able to traverse the snowy roads to get to us ...
Didn't need them ... lived through it, didn't even go hungry, and had plenty of real wool blankets to keep warm. ..
House was surrounded by trees but not a single one fell in a snowstorm or tornado ... house still standing AFAIK ...

Then came Y2K ... watched the fireworks 'round the world ... woke up the next morning to electricity, running water, and banks being closed for one day only, as normal on New Year's Day ...

Then came the attack on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon ... everybody was afraid of the Muslims ... except for the Muslims, who were afraid of everybody else ... we were all afraid of getting anthrax from mail and the post office stopped selling stamped envelopes, which meant we had to lick our own (risking anthrax -- or was that the day of self-stick stamps?) ...

Now people who aren't old enough to remember the '50s and '60s or even the early '80s want me to be terrified of COVID 19 or whatever it's called (I wish they'd decide on a name and stick to it) ...
Actually they're so young they probably don't care whether I'm afraid or not, since I'm over 60 and therefore not worth much in their eyes. ... just someone to either be humored, or hurried along in the checkout line at the grocery store ...

Which is a pity, because I could tell them that in the '50s and '60s and '80s and '90s and '00s the stores didn't run out of toilet paper or soap and until this millennium (IIRC) we didn't have hand sanitizer ... although there was a big acetaminophen brand-name scare in one of those decades ...
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Gosh a lot of truth in that Saskia...I think we need to start thinking along the lines of wouldnt it be worse for us if it was happening in 10 years time. That was the logic of No 1 son today who said he wont be coming back on a plane for a while unless we get ill which was kind of well kind. Did you manage to get the items that were missing at your grocery store a few days ago? I know the KC will look out for you as you will for her. I am lucky to have two friendly gentle girls and my new friend Mr Fuzz. Dont fret its not good. PS. The folk who created the mayhem in the pic posted by @ianpspurs dont have much civic spirit or cop on.
 
Just a thought. Has anyone seen handwash. loo roll, anti bac wipes in the food bank donation points of shops? I know these things were on the lists of needed items before this panic. I wonder how long it will be before some people help themselves from these? May need security guards eventually.
 
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dunelm said:
Dead right about the nonsense coming out of Mat Ham-****’s mouth. I have a pack of bio-nuclear-detol-friendly something or other wipes in my coat pocket and a small plastic bag in case I can’t immediately dispose. Supermarket car park full to bursting this morning when we walked past. Didn’t go in, I detest Christmas shopping.
This stuff can be obtained on ebay and other online stores;
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I have that stuff, 99%
I use it to create cells effects in paint pours @dunelm
 
OldButBold said:
I was just thinking of exercising my gamers skills in Fallout 4 for my new wardrobe to go out in.
Having survived my trip across town (so far anyway) I called into my local co-op store and lo and behold... all the loo rolls and sanitizer have gone. They did have crumpets so I was chilled out about it :)

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I play fallout 4 now and again playing destiny2 atm.
 
I had an email sent me yesterday from a friend the States...

Not quite sure what to make of it. She'd been sent it by her friend Max, and was forwarding it on.

Here is is in its entirety.


"When I was the HAZMAT Bureau Chief at NM DPS I worked with a guy at EPA Region VI in Dallas and we've remained friends and in contact. He sent me an email that I thought was with sharing. I hope all are well and being diligent and careful.




From member of the Stanford hospital board. This is their feedback for now on Corona virus:


The new Coronavirus may not show sign of infection for many days. How can one know if he/she is infected? By the time they have fever and/or cough and go to the hospital, the lung is usually 50% Fibrosis and it's too late. Taiwan experts provide a simple self-check that we can do every morning. Take a deep breath and hold your breath for more than 10 seconds. If you complete it successfully without coughing, without discomfort, stiffness or tightness, etc., it proves there is no Fibrosis in the lungs, basically indicates no infection. In critical time, please self-check every morning in an environment with clean air.


Serious excellent advice by Japanese doctors treating COVID-19 cases: Everyone should ensure your mouth & throat are moist, never dry. Take a few sips of water every 15 minutes at least. Why? Even if the virus gets into your mouth, drinking water or other liquids will wash them down through your throat and into the stomach. Once there, your stomach acid will kill all the virus. If you don't drink enough water more regularly, the virus can enter your windpipe and into the lungs. That's very dangerous. Please send and share this with family and friends. Take care everyone and may the world recover from this Coronavirus soon.


IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - CORONAVIRUS


1. If you have a runny nose and sputum, you have a common cold

2. Coronavirus pneumonia is a dry cough with no runny nose.

3. This new virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed by a temperature of just 26/27 degrees. It hates the Sun.

4. If someone sneezes with it, it takes about 10 feet before it drops to the ground and is no longer airborne.

5. If it drops on a metal surface it will live for at least 12 hours - so if you come into contact with any metal surface - wash your hands as soon as you can with a bacterial soap.

6. On fabric it can survive for 6-12 hours. normal laundry detergent will kill it.

7. Drinking warm water is effective for all viruses. Try not to drink liquids with ice.

8. Wash your hands frequently as the virus can only live on your hands for 5-10 minutes, but - a lot can happen during that time - you can rub your eyes, pick your nose unwittingly and so on.

9. You should also gargle as a prevention. A simple solution of salt in warm water will suffice.

10. Can't emphasis enough - drink plenty of water!


THE SYMPTOMS


1. It will first infect the throat, so you'll have a sore throat lasting 3/4 days

2. The virus then blends into a nasal fluid that enters the trachea and then the lungs, causing pneumonia. This takes about 5/6 days further.

3. With the pneumonia comes high fever and difficulty in breathing.

4. The nasal congestion is not like the normal kind. You feel like you're drowning. It's imperative you then seek immediate attention.


SHARE WITH FAMILY and FRIENDS"
 
ianpspurs said:
Just a thought. Has anyone seen handwash. loo roll, anti bac wipes in the food bank donation points of shops? I know these things were on the lists of needed items before this panic. I wonder how long it will before some people help themselves from these? May need security guards eventually.
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I think a lot of people think that if other people can't afford to buy their own handwash and loo rolls they don't deserve to live anyway ...
The world being what it is these days ... :(
 
HarryBeau said:
Checked Boots web site all seem to be unavailable...went onto Amazon again the reasonably priced ones not available some basic ones being sold for £64.00 outrageous...going to my local chemist on Monday it's an independent one will have a look there will let you know if they have any quite happy to get you one & post it.

@PenguinMum

*** just edited this to add I have found some thermometers on Home Health UK this is what I have just ordered***
Digital Basal BBT Centigrade (Celsius) Thermometer + 10 Ovulation Strips & 2 Pregnancy Strip
Its a regular thermometer it will take your temperature I won't be using the ovulation strips or the pregnancy test but it will do the job this cost me £7.99 I paid extra for first class post no idea how long it will last but the only place I have found them available so far.
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Thanks HB ordered one! Askd for the centigrade one. Good price!
 
gennepher said:
I had an email sent me yesterday from a friend the States...

Not quite sure what to make of it. She'd been sent it by her friend Max, and was forwarding it on.

Here is is in its entirety.


"When I was the HAZMAT Bureau Chief at NM DPS I worked with a guy at EPA Region VI in Dallas and we've remained friends and in contact. He sent me an email that I thought was with sharing. I hope all are well and being diligent and careful.




From member of the Stanford hospital board. This is their feedback for now on Corona virus:


The new Coronavirus may not show sign of infection for many days. How can one know if he/she is infected? By the time they have fever and/or cough and go to the hospital, the lung is usually 50% Fibrosis and it's too late. Taiwan experts provide a simple self-check that we can do every morning. Take a deep breath and hold your breath for more than 10 seconds. If you complete it successfully without coughing, without discomfort, stiffness or tightness, etc., it proves there is no Fibrosis in the lungs, basically indicates no infection. In critical time, please self-check every morning in an environment with clean air.


Serious excellent advice by Japanese doctors treating COVID-19 cases: Everyone should ensure your mouth & throat are moist, never dry. Take a few sips of water every 15 minutes at least. Why? Even if the virus gets into your mouth, drinking water or other liquids will wash them down through your throat and into the stomach. Once there, your stomach acid will kill all the virus. If you don't drink enough water more regularly, the virus can enter your windpipe and into the lungs. That's very dangerous. Please send and share this with family and friends. Take care everyone and may the world recover from this Coronavirus soon.


IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - CORONAVIRUS


1. If you have a runny nose and sputum, you have a common cold

2. Coronavirus pneumonia is a dry cough with no runny nose.

3. This new virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed by a temperature of just 26/27 degrees. It hates the Sun.

4. If someone sneezes with it, it takes about 10 feet before it drops to the ground and is no longer airborne.

5. If it drops on a metal surface it will live for at least 12 hours - so if you come into contact with any metal surface - wash your hands as soon as you can with a bacterial soap.

6. On fabric it can survive for 6-12 hours. normal laundry detergent will kill it.

7. Drinking warm water is effective for all viruses. Try not to drink liquids with ice.

8. Wash your hands frequently as the virus can only live on your hands for 5-10 minutes, but - a lot can happen during that time - you can rub your eyes, pick your nose unwittingly and so on.

9. You should also gargle as a prevention. A simple solution of salt in warm water will suffice.

10. Can't emphasis enough - drink plenty of water!


THE SYMPTOMS


1. It will first infect the throat, so you'll have a sore throat lasting 3/4 days

2. The virus then blends into a nasal fluid that enters the trachea and then the lungs, causing pneumonia. This takes about 5/6 days further.

3. With the pneumonia comes high fever and difficulty in breathing.

4. The nasal congestion is not like the normal kind. You feel like you're drowning. It's imperative you then seek immediate attention.


SHARE WITH FAMILY and FRIENDS"
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Thank you for posting that, @gennepher.
I'm not sure what to make of it either.
The holding-one's-breath test is OK for people who don't have COPD, asthma, or any other respiratory condition, or who suffer from GERD or the kind of anxiety/panic disorders that make their chests feel tight even when they're in good health.
When I had viral pneumonia 30-odd years ago it did start out with a dry cough, but that changed to a cough that was anything but dry.
I thought about that non-heat-resistant news just a little while ago while I was out walking. It was only about 23 degrees -- really too hot for me to enjoy the walk, but I did enjoy the thought that all that sunshine and heat might kill the virus. I'd been thinking we needed a hard deep freeze to kill the germs but maybe the heat and sunshine will do a better job for us ... so maybe there's a blessing in all this early spring heat after all ...

Stanford has a good medical school AFAIK so I'll keep their ideas in mind. ...
 
PenguinMum said:
@gennepher thanks for posting your US friends advice which is very useful info.
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Because I have Sjögren's Syndrome @PenguinMum I have very dry eyes, dry nose, dry mouth and throat. I couldn't figure out whether by putting eye drops in my eyes each time I leave the car would be a good thing for me to do. But reading between the lines here in my friend's forwarded email, it possibly implies I was doing the right thing.

Also I have a dry mouth spray, mine is from Boots, that anyone can buy, and was constantly spraying my mouth when I was out in public. So again, I was doing the right thing? Although the email says to frequently sip water.
 
gennepher said:
Because I have Sjögren's Syndrome @PenguinMum I have very dry eyes, dry nose, dry mouth and throat. I couldn't figure out whether by putting eye drops in my eyes each time I leave the car would be a good thing for me to do. But reading between the lines here in my friend's forwarded email, it possibly implies I was doing the right thing.

Also I have a dry mouth spray, mine is from Boots, that anyone can buy, and was constantly spraying my mouth when I was out in public. So again, I was doing the right thing? Although the email says to frequently sip water.
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The other thing I heard a Dr on he radio saying when she goes on the tube or he bus she squirts Vicks First Defence up her nose every hour or two to discourage the droplets attaching. So I have bought 3 bottles, the Boots own brand is cheaper. Any line of defence worth trying IMO.
@HarryBeau might be useful for your encounters!!
 
OK, guys, I just met a very nice Englishman when I went down to check my mail.
So, have any of you gentlemen been Tesseracting, Teleporting, Apparating, or Beaming yourselves across the Space-Time Continuum?

If visitors weren't discouraged I would have put on some tea...

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PenguinMum said:
The other thing I heard a Dr on he radio saying when she goes on the tube or he bus she squirts Vicks First Defence up her nose every hour or two to discourage the droplets attaching. So I have bought 3 bottles, the Boots own brand is cheaper. Any line of defence worth trying IMO.
@HarryBeau might be useful for your encounters!!
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Thanks very much for that @PenguinMum
I think I was looking at that the other day in the chemist, but I didn't know if it was a silly idea.
I collect my meds next week. So I will get it then. Thanks again.
 
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