I feel like crying .... with frustration!!!

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She did explain in her terms why and I mentioned the body can make glucose for the cells that need them from protein. She agreed but said it was hard for the body to do that etc etc. It was really frustrating as it was a short visit with masks so hard to see expressions etc.

I just went silent and thought I can’t cope with this despite explaining over and over the consequences of eating the way she was suggesting. Tiring.

She is one of several doctors I can see at that surgery. It is generally excellent, apart from this.

Next step, endo.

Do you have an appointment for the Endo?
 

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Yes but it is weeks away.

You could always ring the clinic or the booking centre; depending on how it's done in your area, and asking to go on the list for a cancellation. It couldn't hurt. The worst thing they could say is it doesn't work like that here?

I feel for you, but your comfort must be that you have a route in to specialist care now, and if it is a few weeks away, you have loads to time to prepare and get in the meeting zone.

Never, ever forget, when it comes to the time, it's your appointment, and you need to have an agenda, a list of desired, desirable and acceptable outcomes mapped out, so that you minimise the chances of being side-swiped again.
 

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You could always ring the clinic or the booking centre; depending on how it's done in your area, and asking to go on the list for a cancellation. It couldn't hurt. The worst thing they could say is it doesn't work like that here?

I feel for you, but your comfort must be that you have a route in to specialist care now, and if it is a few weeks away, you have loads to time to prepare and get in the meeting zone.

Never, ever forget, when it comes to the time, it's your appointment, and you need to have an agenda, a list of desired, desirable and acceptable outcomes mapped out, so that you minimise the chances of being side-swiped again.

Sound advice. Thank you. I hadn’t thought of giving them a call!
 

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Sound advice. Thank you. I hadn’t thought of giving them a call!

If it can't be moved, every day that passes probably helps ensure it's a proper face-to-face appointment. I have the bone clinic on 20th July, and was a little miffed it was so far ahead, until I thought it through properly.

There's always a silver lining, if we look and apply our imaginations hard enough!
 
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I really feel for you and fully expect this is the response I'll get from my local GP surgery. You are the expert in your own life, listen to your own inner voice and provided you're not experiencing any negative effects there's no reason to change. Your purpose is to manage your life and health effectively, not to please others or seek approval.
The only 'approval' you need is your own. Take care
 
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Hi Flora, YOU already know the answers to your questions and honestly, you should NOT let this person dictate to you or tell you what you should be doing. She won't change her 'advice' or viewpoint and only YOU can allow her to make you feel like crying. I get this all the time at my appointments and I cut any conversations around what I am doing straight off. I will happily discuss my results (all good) and beyond that?, well they can do one. x

Hi there
It sounds like you need to change your doctor not your diet ! As many GPs don’t specialise in Diabetes nutrition or diet,some of the information is contradictory In my experience, !
Regards
Glenn
 
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Hi there
It sounds like you need to change your doctor not your diet ! As many GPs don’t specialise in Diabetes nutrition or diet,some of the information is contradictory In my experience, !
Regards
Glenn

Hi Glenn, did you mean this for me or Flora? I'm talking about my diabetes Consultant in actual fact and in my experience, most of the people who do specialise in diabetes churn out that old 'eatwell' plate. x
 

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Hi Glenn, did you mean this for me or Flora? I'm talking about my diabetes Consultant in actual fact and in my experience, most of the people who do specialise in diabetes churn out that old 'eatwell' plate. x
Flora ! Yet I do agree with you.I never got any advice from anyone. it’s just that I have an interest in nutrition and eat healthily.this issue with carbs causes a lot of confusion and heart ache.
Glenn
 
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GPs and practice nurses can only say what they are told to via NICE guidelines. I think we have all been victim to this at some point.
I adopt the smiling, nodding dog approach. Yes, I have no idea why my BS is so low, must be a miracle. I have even got the 'maybe you aren't diabetic at all' approach.
You keep doing what you are doing, it works. Feel smug because you know something they don't, and it's a biggie.
 
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GPs and practice nurses can only say what they are told to via NICE guidelines. I think we have all been victim to this at some point.
I adopt the smiling, nodding dog approach. Yes, I have no idea why my BS is so low, must be a miracle. I have even got the 'maybe you aren't diabetic at all' approach.
You keep doing what you are doing, it works. Feel smug because you know something they don't, and it's a biggie.

Where I find the nod and smile approach challenging is how can we hope to turn the tide if we play into the disinformation game? If we nod and agree, then we are reinforcing their belief that the EatWell Guide works, because, by omission and disingenuous sentiments, we are confirming it does.

I prefer to tell them what I do, and leave it with them to digest, in the light of my blood tests and other biomarkers. If they don't see with their own eyes there is another way, their minds are less likely to be opened.

When I was referred to an Endo for something non-diabetes, I wondered what his approach would be. He was absolutely fine with it, saying it was hard to argue against years of consistent blood results, and the n delivered the whammy of having to go gluten-free.

Again, to be clear, the GF was not related to my diabetes situation, but his belief that many people with auto-immune conditions find they are better without gluten in their lives.

My view is fibs and implied untruths are not helpful.

At the end of the day, we are at home, living with this condition day in day out. We have to decide what gives us the best balance in our lives.
 
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KateA

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Where I find the nod and smile approach challenging is how can we hope to turn the tide if we play into the disinformation game? If we nod and agree, then we are reinforcing their belief that the EatWell Guide works, because, by omission and disingenuous sentiments, we are confirming it does.

I prefer to tell them what I do, and leave it with them to digest, in the light of my blood tests and other biomarkers. If they don't see with their own eyes there is another way, their minds are less likely to be opened.

When I was referred to an Endo for something non-diabetes, I wondered what his approach would be. He was absolutely fine with it, saying it was hard to argue against years of consistent blood results, and the n delivered the whammy of having to go gluten-free.

Again, to be clear, the GF was not related to my diabetes situation, but his belief that many people with auto-immune conditions find they are better without gluten in their lives.

My view is fibs and implied untruths are not helpful.

At the end of the day, we are at home, living with this condition day in day out. We have to decide what gives us the best balance in our lives.

I agree with you, it is our lives. When I say nodding, I am not conceding. I tell them how I am managing, it is when they say the , "oh but you need some carbs", that is when I smile and nod, as if to say "oh really?" then promptly ignore them. Life is far to short to argue with people who have to follow the rules.