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Are high carbs bad?

Nic71

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I see a lot of people saying that low carb diets are good for diabetics but I know a lot of cyclists and endurance athletes that say high carbs are good for maintaining energy.

With this in mind are high carb foods that are low in sugar good to have? I’m thinking quinoa, oats, beets etc
 
I see a lot of people saying that low carb diets are good for diabetics but I know a lot of cyclists and endurance athletes that say high carbs are good for maintaining energy.

With this in mind are high carb foods that are low in sugar good to have? I’m thinking quinoa, oats, beets etc
Carbs turn to glucose once ingested. When your body works, and works properly, it uses that glucose for fuel. That's why athletes speak of carb-loading. A banana means they can keep going for longer.

For a type 2 diabetic, burning that glucose is a problem. We're insensitive to our own insulin, and it is with the aid of insulin that blood glucose is burnt off. If we can't burn it, it gets stored in our bodies as fat, and when those stores are full, it ends up just about everywhere else. Even tears can end up tasting sweet. Glucose in blood, organs, muscles, etc, can do massive amounts of damage, possibly resulting in blindness, kidney or heart failure, amputation of extremities etc.

So, the difference is whether or not you can use glucose for fuel. I can't, so I use fats and protein instead, and keep carbs to a minimum. My body can't handle the glucose it turns into, so... No quinoa for me. And I'm not the only one. There's actual athletes that adhere to, for instance, a carnivore diet, which has no carbohydrates whatsoever.

Those are the basics: Practically all carbs turn to glucose once ingested. Good carbs, bad carbs, doesn't matter, a carb is a carb is a carb, and when you have a metabolic condition like type 2 diabetes, you have a problem handling those. Whatever speed of uptake, whatever colour, whether they're wholemeal or over-processed... Which is probably not what you wanted to hear, sorry. :(

Hope this helps, though.
Jo
 
I see a lot of people saying that low carb diets are good for diabetics but I know a lot of cyclists and endurance athletes that say high carbs are good for maintaining energy.

With this in mind are high carb foods that are low in sugar good to have? I’m thinking quinoa, oats, beets etc

There are also endurance athletes who live low carb lifestyles, without the need to carb up at any time.

Dr Ian Lake is a long term T1, endurance athlete and a UK GP. His website might be interesting for you: https://type1keto.com/

He is also on all the usual social media, with links on his site.
 
I see a lot of people saying that low carb diets are good for diabetics but I know a lot of cyclists and endurance athletes that say high carbs are good for maintaining energy.

With this in mind are high carb foods that are low in sugar good to have? I’m thinking quinoa, oats, beets etc
In short, you will not find anybody on this forum that will tell you that a high carb diet is a good idea for a Type 2 diabetic. What is good for a healthy endurance athlete is not necessary good for a Type 2 diabetic, and you won't find any ultra marathon runner eating very much more carbs than they need to get through a race. The race you're running is the rest of your natural life, and only you can decide, following as much time spent learning as you're willing to invest, how much carbs you need to run for as long as possible.

When it come to carbs, sugar is a 'fast-acting' carbohydrate and gets into your bloodstream in the form of glucose very quickly. Starch takes a little longer to digest so is a 'slow-acting' carb, but it also gets into your bloodstream in the form of glucose fairly quickly. T2 diabetics have a problem controlling the levels of glucose in the bloodstream which, if left uncontrolled, results in levels which effectively act like a slow poison, causing a range of health issues. There is a difference - large, rapid changes in blood sugar levels are bad for your health, but if a person switches from a diet comprising large amounts of sugar to a diet comprising large amounts of starch they'll still run into long term health issues due to their body's weakened ability to control the levels of glucose in the their bloodstream.

With that said, you should think of high carb foods and a high carb diet as two different things. Eating a single spoon of sugar won't kill you. There are those on this forum who practice and advocate for a very low carb diet, eating only as much carbs as their bodies can handle safely while keeping their medication to an absolute minimum, or controlling their diabetes without using any medication at all. There are also those who take a different attitude to diet and medication. Everyone agrees on one thing though - for a Type 2 diabetic a very high carb diet is unquestionably bad.

Best of luck
 
Prof Tim Noakes who coached top athletes for decades made an apology to the world just a few years ago as throughout his career he would promote high carb consumption. He said his advice was completely wrong, the research now shows better performance, endurance and they were able to build more muscle on a LCHF diet. He’s made a few YouTube videos and has published a few books about LCHF. He actually did it himself and now in his 70s he says he has a 6 pack!
I remember the ‘pasta parties’ my husband used to go to the evening before running marathons!
 
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