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Fed up of food.

RosieDred

RosieDred

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Type of diabetes
Type 1
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I had a white cheese topped roll for tea with fish fingers in batter. Also the mini egg cakes out for Easter have always been my favourites so I also had one of them too. I injected for it all. Now I'm on 12. I know it's because of the bread roll and the cake. I've just had enough right now. I can't have any of my favourite stuff anymore and although it's a little pathetic it really bothers me. I've had a gutsfull of thinking. I just want to grab what I want and eat it. And for my body to just deal with t as it should.


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I feel so sorry for you - I don't know what comfort I can give you so here is a hug
 
I know exactly how you feel, and I haven't even been at this for very long so I imagine that it's probably worse for people who've had to cope with this stupid disease for years. I get really annoyed at the fact that I have to read the nutrition label for absolutely everything, and that I no longer have the freedom to eat what I like when I like. Easter is definitely not helping - neither is the warm weather as I just want to eat ice cream all day.
 
You can still have occasional treats. Do you carb count ? If so, you didn't inject enough or you wouldn't have been at 12. It's not a good idea to eat these foods regularly as it's not healthy and big doses of insulin is not good either but you don't have to give everything you like up.


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XIX said:
I know exactly how you feel, and I haven't even been at this for very long so I imagine that it's probably worse for people who've had to cope with this stupid disease for years. I'm just really annoyed at the fact that I have to read the nutrition label for absolutely everything, and that I no longer have the freedom to eat what I like when I like. Easter is definitely not helping - neither is the warm weather as I just want to eat ice cream all day.
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I'm the same. I miss the spontaneity of grabbing a biscuit from the biscuit tin on my way past or grabbing a packet of crisps to munch on in the car. I miss eating without having to have do maths. And I miss cake :( I've been at this since
November so not very long either. I've always said that chocolate tastes it's best when it's shaped into an egg or a bunny. **** eggs and **** bunnies. I'm gonna pretend they're moulded out of peas or something because tonight. I am a child :p


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mo1905 said:
You can still have occasional treats. Do you carb count ? If so, you didn't inject enough or you wouldn't have been at 12. It's not a good idea to eat these foods regularly as it's not healthy and big doses of insulin is not good either but you don't have to give everything you like up.


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I am carb counting although since I got ill my ratios seem to change every 10 days or so. In general I'm actually really happy with diet, which is healthier than it's ever been and I'm really enjoying food (I've always been very fussy and funny with food).
I know that I can eat what I want as long as I account for it (within reason) but any time I have a treat item I go high after, even though I know I am injecting the right amount for it. And I always eat these treats after a meal. I just can't figure it out :( I feel frustrated because I know it's possible in theory, I just can't work it out in practice for some reason


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Rosie - I wish I could reach through the screen and give you a lovely low carb chocolate muffin. It is not bunny shaped, but it hits the spot!

I hope your situation improves soon and that you get your mojo back. Take care.
 
RosieDred said:
I am carb counting although since I got ill my ratios seem to change every 10 days or so. In general I'm actually really happy with diet, which is healthier than it's ever been and I'm really enjoying food (I've always been very fussy and funny with food).
I know that I can eat what I want as long as I account for it (within reason) but any time I have a treat item I go high after, even though I know I am injecting the right amount for it. And I always eat these treats after a meal. I just can't figure it out :( I feel frustrated because I know it's possible in theory, I just can't work it out in practice for some reason


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If you keep a diary then this shouldn't happen. There is no need to go high after a treat. If, for example, a donut sent your BG to 10 and you injected 4units for it ( example only ), then next time take 5units and test. The whole point of testing is to guage how certain foods and exercise affect you. By recording it all, you can look back at thr last time you ate fish fingers and see how it affected you. I know this may sound easy and I understand it's not an exact science but with experience you will learn what to inject for certain treats.


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I grew up with a diabetic parent so was sort or trained early on a lowish carb diet. This probably makes the changes I have done recently much easier, compared to those who didn't.

But still, fish fingers in batter? Easter eggs? Bread rolls? Are they really worth the trouble?

I know you are t1 on insulin while I am on diet only, but I do want to tell you this: I can control my bg to perfection on diet if I stay off carbs. No meds whatsoever. But also those who are insulin dependent seem to find it so much more easy to handle the insulin when on low carb.

And it is very easy.
 
I grew up with a diabetic parent so was sort or trained early on a lowish carb diet. This probably makes the changes I have done recently much easier, compared to those who didn't.

But still, fish fingers in batter? Easter eggs? Bread rolls? Are they really worth the trouble?

I know you are t1 on insulin while I am on diet only, but I do want to tell you this: I can control my bg to perfection on diet if I stay off carbs. No meds whatsoever. But also those who are insulin dependent seem to find it so much more easy to handle the insulin when on low carb.

And it is very easy.
 
mo1905 said:
If you keep a diary then this shouldn't happen. There is no need to go high after a treat. If, for example, a donut sent your BG to 10 and you injected 4units for it ( example only ), then next time take 5units and test. The whole point of testing is to guage how certain foods and exercise affect you. By recording it all, you can look back at thr last time you ate fish fingers and see how it affected you. I know this may sound easy and I understand it's not an exact science but with experience you will learn what to inject for certain treats.


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Sorry if this is a very obvious question, but are you basically saying that it's not as easy as needing 1 unit of insulin for every 15g gram of carbs? And that even though a food may have 15g of carbs I may need to inject enough insulin to cover more than this?

I honestly feel sometimes that I'll never get this. How did you learn all this?


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Totto said:
I grew up with a diabetic parent so was sort or trained early on a lowish carb diet. This probably makes the changes I have done recently much easier, compared to those who didn't.

But still, fish fingers in batter? Easter eggs? Bread rolls? Are they really worth the trouble?

I know you are t1 on insulin while I am on diet only, but I do want to tell you this: I can control my bg to perfection on diet if I stay off carbs. No meds whatsoever. But also those who are insulin dependent seem to find it so much more easy to handle the insulin when on low carb.

And it is very easy.
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I have actually cut my carbs from an average if 230g per day to 120g - 130g per day. And I prefer the food I'm eating generally.

I just like a treat now and again but am starting to think that treats just don't fit in :( I have stopped eating chocolate and don't actually eat Easter eggs, cakes or bread rolls. I just really fancied them tonight. I do eat fish fingers in batter maybe once a week but I usually only have veg with them, never bread.

Just thought if I accounted for them then my sugars would have been okay. What sort of things do you snack on? And how many carbs do you eat a day?


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RosieDred said:
Sorry if this is a very obvious question, but are you basically saying that it's not as easy as needing 1 unit of insulin for every 15g gram of carbs? And that even though a food may have 15g of carbs I may need to inject enough insulin to cover more than this?

I honestly feel sometimes that I'll never get this. How did you learn all this?


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Yes, it's not that simple. Different foods have different GI values and some of us just can't tolerate certain foods as well as others. Your 1:15 ratio is a guide, you need to adjust occasionally. There are people here that even have different ratios for different meals. Breakfast may be 1:10 whilst dinner could be 1:15 etc. I don't pretend to know half of this stuff. I learn daily by testing and recording. Diabetes is a dynamic condition which is why it can be so frustrating at times. Totto is correct in saying reducing carbs helps as there is less to inject therefore less margin for error. I'm just saying that if fish fingers have 60g of carbs and you usually take 4 units, you may need 5. Trial and error. There will be certain foods that you tolerate better that you may need less for. I know it sounds complicated but it honestly gets easier. Most of us don't vary our diets greatly.


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RosieDred said:
I have actually cut my carbs from an average if 230g per day to 120g - 130g per day. And I prefer the food I'm eating generally.

I just like a treat now and again but am starting to think that treats just don't fit in :( I have stopped eating chocolate and don't actually eat Easter eggs, cakes or bread rolls. I just really fancied them tonight. I do eat fish fingers in batter maybe once a week but I usually only have veg with them, never bread.

Just thought if I accounted for them then my sugars would have been okay. What sort of things do you snack on? And how many carbs do you eat a day?


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I don't snack much as the meals I have keep me going for many hours so the need to snack is limited. When I do need a snack I have some cheese or nuts. If I fancy chocolate I have one or maybe two squares of a very nice and expensive South American chocolate together with a handful of almonds.

I think I average about 50 grams of carbs, could be lower. But I do LCHF and it works wonderfully, particularly since I cut out all grain. I haven't had this level of energy for twenty years, I feel young again, not what you would expect as a result from the diagnosis of a chronic illness, is it? But there you are.
 
Inject more insulin, exercise, lose weight if BMI > 25 and you'll become more sensitive to Insulin and be able to eat Doughnuts and stuff.

Also if you're new to Insulin, it may take a while for your body to readily accept it. I found sensitivity increased over time :)
 
mo1905 said:
Yes, it's not that simple. Different foods have different GI values and some of us just can't tolerate certain foods as well as others. Your 1:15 ratio is a guide, you need to adjust occasionally. There are people here that even have different ratios for different meals. Breakfast may be 1:10 whilst dinner could be 1:15 etc. I don't pretend to know half of this stuff. I learn daily by testing and recording. Diabetes is a dynamic condition which is why it can be so frustrating at times. Totto is correct in saying reducing carbs helps as there is less to inject therefore less margin for error. I'm just saying that if fish fingers have 60g of carbs and you usually take 4 units, you may need 5. Trial and error. There will be certain foods that you tolerate better that you may need less for. I know it sounds complicated but it honestly gets easier. Most of us don't vary our diets greatly.


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Thanks mo, it does sound incredibly complicated. I think I'm getting it all and then something else comes up that I need to learn. I an understand why most don't vary their diets. Yeah my ratio for each meal is different, I'm on 1:35 for breakfast, 1:10 for lunch and 1:15 for tea. Hopefully I will get to grips with it soon


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