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NICNAK68

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Good morning all,

I jumped on the scales this morning and was ashamed to say I weight 18 stone 5 lb

I am a 45 year old woman who has had type 1 diabeties for 30 years

I work full time in HR so am at my desk from 0730 -1700 mon- fri.

I have tried nearly every diet going, Slimming world, weight watchers slim fast juice plus low carb but cannot stick to anything.

I have an obsession with eating biscuits at the moment so that doesn't help.

I am tired, I have aches and pains in my right side of my body .

Can someone please offer me advice as to where to go next in regard to weight loss and generally feeling well again.

Thank you and sorry to have bothered you xx
 
When sugars are in range, you are going to feel great. Please stick on to low carbing, that will do u a lot good. Reduce the quantity of biscuits, try some low carb biscuits made at home- u can find recipes here. Exercise + diet= weight loss+feeling good...
Best wishes...

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ok after 30 years there may not be anything new to learn, maybe a refresher, lets try this way, carbs are evil and the work of the devil..the more carbs you eat, the more carbs you want....
http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/lowcarb101/a/carblevel.htm
http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/lowcarbliving/a/Food-Cravings.htm

the other thing is are you scared enough? being scared is normally a good motivator. print a couple of these out and stick on your fridge
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=diabetic amputations&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=VgioU7n4L4r58QW7woLYBg&sqi=2&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=976&bih=408
 
jack412 said:
ok after 30 years there may not be anything new to learn, maybe a refresher, lets try this way, carbs are evil and the work of the devil..the more carbs you eat, the more carbs you want....
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Oh dear Jack, what a load of nonsense :rolleyes:
 
NICNAK68 said:
Good morning all,

I jumped on the scales this morning and was ashamed to say I weight 18 stone 5 lb

I am a 45 year old woman who has had type 1 diabeties for 30 years

I work full time in HR so am at my desk from 0730 -1700 mon- fri.

I have tried nearly every diet going, Slimming world, weight watchers slim fast juice plus low carb but cannot stick to anything.

I have an obsession with eating biscuits at the moment so that doesn't help.

I am tired, I have aches and pains in my right side of my body .

Can someone please offer me advice as to where to go next in regard to weight loss and generally feeling well again.

Thank you and sorry to have bothered you xx
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Have you tried asking for help from your gp? The biscuit obsession won't help matters as they are loaded with calories and will continuously elevate your bg levels.
 
thanks for your opinion noble, it's a shame you can't have it as a fact, there is more than enough research on carbs and triggering hunger sensation, the 2 links I put up for a start
The goal is to find the highest carb level where the individual will 1) lose or maintain weight and 2) not have cravings which will drive him or her to overeat. These cravings are a very important marker, and almost every low-carb diet book from Atkins to South Beach talks about it. It is one of the most striking features of low-carb diets -- that people no longer find themselves wanting to randomly munch. Being free of those urges is so liberating that it turns people into devoted followers of carb reduction. Other positive signs of eating the correct carb level are increased energy and mental alertness. Also, of course, people who are diabetic or prediabetic can and should monitor how what they eat is affecting their blood glucose.
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Hi,
I kind of know where you are at at the moment, as I was there at your age - only probably a stone heavier.
I had a busy, stressful job which took up all of my life, and left me little time to really take care of me and take proper notice of the harm I was doing to myself. I was told I had diabetes - type 2, but I wasn't scared enough, so I ignored it. I took the Metformin I was prescribed, I didn't diet at all, I found it increasingly difficult to exercise, I put on weight, I binge ate on top of my very healthy, but no portion control normal diet.

Guess what? My body started giving up on me. My knees began to crumble away. I couldn't even manage to do Christmas shopping as walking round the shops was too painful. I had a fantastic opportunity to take a year off and travel with my husband, which I did, but sight-seeing is painful if your knees can't really hold up your own body weight.

I then needed an op for my knees, but it's a life enhancing op, not a life saving one, so it was all booked and they did my pre-op assessment and my blood sugar levels were too high for them to let the op go ahead. So I am stuck with bad knees and a wish that I had done something about this 20 years ago, 10 years ago, 5 years ago... whatever. All I can do now is do something now, and I am.

For you the time is NOW. A low carb diet might feel hard for you, though I have to say it's the easiest one I've tried (although I'm doing low carb and trying to stick to lower cals), but you've got to do it because the consequences of not doing something will catch up with you. So it might take a year of your life (that's what I'm thinking of for me), but it will give you your life back. It's got to be worth it.

It is a matter of getting your mind in the right place to do it. My sisters both swear by Slimming World, and say going to meetings helps motivate them so much, but that's just not me. I actually think that what helps them is having someone close also dieting. It's that supportive friend/relative/angel on your shoulder, telling you "you can do it" and "put the biscuit down". Maybe buddy up with someone at home, or someone on here. I'm dieting, so are loads of others. Some people post a kind of blog/progress report to help keep them on track. Start one. I'll follow you, and so will others, and they'll give you support, advice and possibly, having read some very direct posts on here, tell you a few home truths at times, but with luck it'll keep you motivated for the long haul.

Hope you make a start. Best wishes.
 
jack412 said:
thanks for your opinion noble, it's a shame you can't have it as a fact, there is more than enough research on carbs and triggering hunger sensation, the 2 links I put up for a start
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Jack I appreciate your new to the forum, howover no-one eats a zero carb diet and many on the forum eat them in moderation, even low-carbers. To say carbs are evil is absolutely ridiculous IMHO :)
 
Again, it's the same old story, everyone is different. What worked for me might not work for others.

When I was a little bit older than you, I reached 11st 8lb (I'm 5ft 2in) and decided I'd better do something about my ever increasing weight, before the diabetic clinic told me to.

I found it practically impossible at first, losing only about 1lb per month. This was because I was still using the exchanges system that I was put on at diagnosis and had never been altered. I had been told to take a total of 170g carbohydrate per day - no more and no less - and I'd been doing that for almost 30 years. No wonder I put on the pounds!

The weight started coming off when I halved the carbohydrate at lunchtime and cut out mid morning and afternoon snacks. (Needless to say I stopped all alcohol during the week and only took a small amount at the weekend. - That was difficult!!

For breakfast I took microwave porridge and cut out the slice of toast I also used to take with it (I put fresh berries in the porridge.
I took a salad at lunch, with a small slice of bread and a piece of fruit. - Nowadays I'd cut out the bread!
In the evening I'd have the same meal as the rest of the family but watch my portion sizes.

Going on a carbohydrate counting and insulin adjustment course (a cheaper version of DAPHNE) helped and I could vary the amount of carbohydrate at any meal.

I managed to lose 2st 7lb in about 2 years - I daresay Weight Watchers would have given me a lower target weight but I was happy!

When you lose weight, your insulin requirements change. I take a lot less insulin now than I did before I lost weight.

For me, the big problem was getting into the correct frame of mind. I HAD to want to lose weight, otherwise I ate too much.

My treat was to have one square of dark chocolate with a cuppa at night. It worked for me - Yes, I WAS able to stop at one square, I'm strange that way!

Perhaps you should start off by having a check up, to make sure all's well. I presume your thyroid was checked at your last review.

If you've tried slimming groups without success, what about your office? Are there others who could do with losing a few pounds? Workmates of mine had a weekly weigh-in and some of them lost a lot of weight.

I don't think it matters what method you try to lose weight, if you're not in the right mind-set you won't stick at it.

I hope you don't actually sit at your desk from 7.30am. Don't eat lunch at your desk - don't eat while you work, just enjoy your food then go for a short walk.

Maybe your weight this morning was a wake up call and you are now in the correct frame of mind. I hope so. Best of luck!
 
noblehead said:
Jack I appreciate your new to the forum, howover no-one eats a zero carb diet and many on the forum eat them in moderation, even low-carbers. To say carbs are evil is absolutely ridiculous IMHO :)
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who said eat zero carb? did you even bother to read the links and the quote...it was quite clear that every person has their own carb level
carbs are evil and the work of the devil, was a funny poetic licence and why do you want to focus on that. It takes nothing from the facts I've provided
 
Wow, thank you all again.

Maybe I do need someone to tell me some home truths, but I do know what I am doing to myself and always tell myself I will have this last packet of biscuits, family size bar of choc etc.

I do sit at my desk from 0730 - 1700 and yes I do eat my lunch, I then drive home make tea, tidy up and then flop of the sofa for the rest of the evening.

I want to motivate myself to look after myself better, I want energy, I want to live for the next 40 years.

Its as though there is a little devil sitting on my shoulder encouraging me to be naughty.

I guess the feeling better will come with not eating **** !!! Home cooked meals and not shakes or takeaways or ready meals.
 
jack412 said:
who said eat zero carb? did you even bother to read the links and the quote...it was quite clear that every person has their own carb level
carbs are evil and the work of the devil, was a funny poetic licence and why do you want to focus on that. It takes nothing from the facts I've provided
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Jack, I did read your quote and it backed up everything I said, it's up to the individual to find the carb level that best works for them, there's no one diets that suits all with diabetes :)
 
I was always saying in my mind, "I'll have this now, and start doing something tomorrow". For me just stopping eating any bread, potatoes, rice and pasta has really helped, but I'm type 2, so I have no idea of what constraints might be on you in terms of what you can and can't do. However, after 30 years as Type 1 you must know what you can and can't do and really you know in your heart that a diet will work if you stick to it. We can lie to ourselves, we can yo-yo between self-disgust, don't care - whatever, but at the end of the day only you can do it - and you can, because others have gone there before and done it.

Oh, and I forgot to say - I'm using the free website My Fitness Pal to record everything I eat - absolutely honestly, even the bad days. It's helping me to plan what I can shop for, as I work on the basis that if it's not in the house I can't scoff it.
 
noblehead said:
Jack, I did read your quote and it backed up everything I said, it's up to the individual to find the carb level that best works for them, there's no one diets that suits all with diabetes :)
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LOL, so you are using my quote and my fact .. , :)
ps, If you wish to, it might be best to continue this by personal message
 
Can we please get away from the carb argument again ! You know it's only ever going to end one way. Let's keep carbs a personal thing please. Most here will agree that reducing carbs helps, what this actually means it totally individual. We range here from probably 30g a day way up to a couple of hundred. Do what suits you best. Thanks.

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I only can on here to ask for help, which some of you have given me and I am grateful for. But please don't start a argument xx
 
noblehead said:
Oh dear Jack, what a load of nonsense :rolleyes:
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Hi Noblehead, I have noticed that you do not seem to be to a fan of the (ultra) low carb approach.

From my own observation I am increasingly convinced that for a certain proportion of the population (not everyone!) handling carbs without inflammatory side effects including weight gain IS problematic. I am sure we all know a broad spectrum of individuals both diabetic and non diabetic that vary very substantially with respect to the effect of carbohydrates on their own metabolisms. My PhD was in the field of brain biochemistry and while I am no longer actively engaged in basic research I believe there is enough growing evidence to take the concept of sugar/carbohydrate addiction seriously.

Personally I feel there is little risk in experiementing with a very low carbohydrate approach - carbohydrate is not "essential" to our health unlike water, certain minerals and vitamins and essential amino acids (derived from protein). But I hope we can all agree that there is no "one size fits all approach" to diet, especially in diabetes management. For me, even as Type 1 with little insulin resistance drastically reducing carbs is proving to be a critical management tool if I want to see any stability in BG levels.

But do I view with envy the many people I know that can eat a moderate to high carbohydrate diet with no apparent downside and who have no problem stopping at just one biscuit or a small handful of crisps? - you bet I do. ;)
 
oldgreymare said:
Hi Noblehead, I have noticed that you do not seem to be to a fan of the (ultra) low carb approach.

From my own observation I am increasingly convinced that for a certain proportion of the population (not everyone!) handling carbs without inflammatory side effects including weight gain IS problematic. I am sure we all know a broad spectrum of individuals both diabetic and non diabetic that vary very substantially with respect to the effect of carbohydrates on their own metabolisms. My PhD was in the field of brain biochemistry and while I am no longer actively engaged in basic research I believe there is enough growing evidence to take the concept of sugar/carbohydrate addiction seriously.

Personally I feel there is little risk in experiementing with a very low carbohydrate approach - carbohydrate is not "essential" to our health unlike water, certain minerals and vitamins and essential amino acids (derived from protein). But I hope we can all agree that there is no "one size fits all approach" to diet, especially in diabetes management. For me, even as Type 1 with little insulin resistance drastically reducing carbs is proving to be a critical management tool if I want to see any stability in BG levels.

But do I view with envy the many people I know that can eat a moderate to high carbohydrate diet with no apparent downside and who have no problem stopping at just one biscuit or a small handful of crisps? - you bet I do. ;)
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Mmmm.........well that's not true, I'm a firm believer in doing what works best for the individual.

I really couldn't care less what diet someone follows as long it works for them, the only problem I would have (and this goes for any diet ) is when someone shouts it out loud that it's the only way and will not accept any other views, I've always advocated some reduction of carbs in the diet and eat a good third less than the RDA, I wouldn't personally want to go Ultra low-carb but respect that some have no other choice.

As you say there's ''no one size fits all'' and that has always been the case on the forum in my time here over the last 6 years, hope that clarifies matters for you oldgraymare :)
 
jack412 said:
LOL, so you are using my quote and my fact .. , :)
ps, If you wish to, it might be best to continue this by personal message
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I'll pass on your offer thanks Jack :)
 
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