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bobrobert

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Type of diabetes
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Diet only
I have read on here, and elsewhere, that adding fat to a meal enhances the lowering of BS levels. I do this by eating full fat cheeses,eggs, bacon,full fat yoghurts and gammon steaks. Does adding a good quality coconut oil - Lucy Bee - add further to the amount - taken before meals - meaning there is even more potential for keeping BS levels down?
 
Coconut oil has zero carbs as do most fats, they fill you up, are non addictive - unlike wheat. I fry in coconut oil or butter. You can also put a tsp in coffee or use butter.
 
If fat is used to replace carbs then it will help reduce bg...such as eating eggs instead of cereal for breakfast. Or use the fat to cook in as Dawn suggests. Personally I wouldn't eat additional fat for the sake of it.
 
bobrobert said:
Thanks for the replies. Getting a balance is difficult,or impossible.
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Nah not impossible :) It just takes a bit of trial and error to find out what suits you best. Do you have a meter to test yourself?

If I eat something carby, such as kidney beans in a stew, I would top it with cheese as I think the fat slows down the absorption of the carbs. It would also make the dish tastier. Eating a tsp of coconut oil before such a meal would just add calories I reckon.
 
Avocado Sevenfold said:
If fat is used to replace carbs then it will help reduce bg...such as eating eggs instead of cereal for breakfast. Or use the fat to cook in as Dawn suggests. Personally I wouldn't eat additional fat for the sake of it.
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I actually read in magazine at the doctors about diabetes when I was waiting for my appointment and it said that our body whether we are diabetic or not does not actually need fat at all but most of us eat it in some form or another as part of our diets and that it is fine in moderation. We eat fat because it flavours our food not because we actually need it apparently.
 
Avocado Sevenfold said:
Nah not impossible :) It just takes a bit of trial and error to find out what suits you best. Do you have a meter to test yourself?

If I eat something carby, such as kidney beans in a stew, I would top it with cheese as I think the fat slows down the absorption of the carbs. It would also make the dish tastier. Eating a tsp of coconut oil before such a meal would just add calories I reckon.
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I do use a meter. Regarding calories I am loosing weight despite taking coconut oil.
 
AnnieC said:
I actually read in magazine at the doctors about diabetes when I was waiting for my appointment and it said that our body whether we are diabetic or not does not actually need fat at all but most of us eat it in some form or another as part of our diets and that it is fine in moderation. We eat fat because it flavours our food not because we actually need it apparently.
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I eat fat as it gives me calories that I no longer get from carbohydrates.
 
AnnieC said:
I actually read in magazine at the doctors about diabetes when I was waiting for my appointment and it said that our body whether we are diabetic or not does not actually need fat at all but most of us eat it in some form or another as part of our diets and that it is fine in moderation. We eat fat because it flavours our food not because we actually need it apparently.
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I think most people would disagree about not needing fat. Fat is essential. Before high carb diets became the norm then most people thrived on eating fat. Inuit people from Canada led healthy lives till the Canadian government encouraged them to live in cities in the seventies. They are now suffering from a western diet.
 
bobrobert said:
I think most people would disagree about not needing fat. Fat is essential. Before high carb diets became the norm then most people thrived on eating fat. Inuit people from Canada led healthy lives till the Canadian government encouraged them to live in cities in the seventies. They are now suffering from a western diet.
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Indeed. It is my understanding that fat and protein are essential, but carbohydrate is the non-essential macronutrient.
 
bobrobert said:
I think most people would disagree about not needing fat. Fat is essential. Before high carb diets became the norm then most people thrived on eating fat. Inuit people from Canada led healthy lives till the Canadian government encouraged them to live in cities in the seventies. They are now suffering from a western diet.
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Avocado Sevenfold said:
Indeed. It is my understanding that fat and protein are essential, but carbohydrate is the non-essential macronutrient.
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Yes we need protein of course but I think it was just meaning our body does not need saturated animal fats we can get better dietary fat from good oils nuts and avocados etc just as vegans and vegetarians do
 
AnnieC said:
Yes we need protein of course but I think it was just meaning our body does not need saturated animal fats we can get better dietary fat from good oils nuts and avocados etc just as vegans and vegetarians do
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To be fair, your post said "does not actually need fat at all" which could be quite misleading to newbies :)
 
I think animal fat is fine in moderation as well as vegi fat
There are several fatty acids and we need a mix of them
Coconut is a good medium chain fatty acid and is also a saturated fat

What we don't need is the volume of grain fat and trans fats we are eating

Anyone here still eating margarine ?

http://m.jn.nutrition.org/content/132/3/329.full
 
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In fact carbohydrate is the least, in fact non essential element of our diet. Carbs are in our veggies etc, Its the processed carbs we don't need. Humans weren't meant to eat cakes and stuff, tasty as they are.
 
When talking about essential in the true meaning what our body need to function normally besides vitamins and minerals, essential fatty acids and essential amino acids, but for the body most efficiently repair it self their might some more stuff we, in none of these cases carbs can be considered essential.
 
Depends what you mean by essential. If you mean essential nutrients then they are those that can't be made by the body.
It absolutely requires protein ie 9 amino acids (10 for children), but only 2 fats (omega 3 and 6) and a whole raft of minerals and vitamins. Unlike most other animals we can't make vitamin C.

Carbohydrates are not essential in that sense, however many essential vitamins/minerals are in foods that are high in carbohydrates( Unless you eat liver you won't get any Vit C without also eating carbohydrates)
Fibre is not traditionally considered as a nutrient but we are discovering more of it's properties and it is considered by many to be an essential part of the diet ( most of us eat tiny amounts compared to most people in the past)
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Eaten by themselves many fats provide little but calories , some are almost as devoid of essential nutrients as sugar.. (check out the nutrient profile of coconut oil)
 
phoenix said:
Depends what you mean by essential. If you mean essential nutrients then they are those that can't be made by the body.
It absolutely requires protein ie 9 amino acids (10 for children), but only 2 fats (omega 3 and 6) and a whole raft of minerals and vitamins. Unlike most other animals we can't make vitamin C.

Carbohydrates are not essential in that sense, however many essential vitamins/minerals are in foods that are high in carbohydrates( Unless you eat liver you won't get any Vit C without also eating carbohydrates)
Fibre is not traditionally considered as a nutrient but we are discovering more of it's properties and it is considered by many to be an essential part of the diet ( most of us eat tiny amounts compared to most people in the past)
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Eaten by themselves many fats provide little but calories , some are almost as devoid of essential nutrients as sugar.. (check out the nutrient profile of coconut oil)
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I do agree with this
 
the other day i saw on national tv here in singapore that a dietician claims that oil will slow down the digestion of carb, so call lower the GI.

however, i only slows down the digestion. the amount of carb absorption will be same.

the specialist also claims that reversal cases seen in obese patient if they lose weight.
 
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