Just been told this afternoon that i have diabetes.

[Ann100]

That's the perfect attitude ... not the one I had I must confess.
The changes as you start making them aren't all that drastic.
Seems daunting at first but as you slowly change things you discover you're still you and you're still enjoying your food ... slightly different food but plenty of it usually.

Thanks for this Jack. Its encouraging to know I am thinking correctly anyway. I started to loose weight two weeks ago when I was told I may be diabetic, so I am already in the right mind set to continue loosing.

 

[Crimsonclient]

It will be confusing for a while yet, but once you get to grips with things it will be easier LCHF is Low Carb High Fat and a lot of members use this diet a lot and have a lot of success with it where as for others it doesn't work. As for the diabetes nurse you can get some excellent ones (rarely) and some ok ones but most of the time they can be awful. The best bit of advice that you will be given here is to get a meter and test test test no matter what the dsn says. I have noticed that you are struggling with some of the terms on here like BG and things like that perhaps someone like @Giverny would put up the list again to explain the different ones.


Type 2 diagnosed 24/01/2013.
NovoRapid, Lantus, Victoza, Metformin (sr), Simvistatin

 

[jack412]

Thanks Jack, but what is ICHF?

It's a way of eating that helps BG blood glucose and lose weight if needed
Cutting carbs and exercise is first, then meds if needed or if you are far too high now
http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf

 

[Avocado Sevenfold]

Hi @Ann100 Just popping on to say welcome. I too am vegetarian and find the lchf way of eating very enjoyable. It has helped me with bg control and with weight loss. There is a new thread near the top of the low carb section of this site with lots of recipe ideas. See you around

 

[Squire Fulwood]

Thanks Jack, but what is ICHF?

LCHF stands for Low Carb High Fat and is a way of remembering one of the ways of eating recommended by many of the contributors on this site.

Low carb means that you reduce the carbs you eat. Definitely no sugar and anything made with flour should be avoided if possible. It may prove that you can eat some kinds of potatoes but you won't know if/which until you get a meter, eat some and test to see what it did to your BG. Rice is another problem in that the only way you can avoid high blood sugar is to eat less of it. Your meter will help again.

The high fat part of the diet is really to forget the old "low fat in case you get cholesterol" culture. Saturated fat is not harmful so if a vegetarian can eat butter and cream then do so. Fat in food lowers the rate that carbs are absorbed which is helpful. There is a famous doctor named Dr. Kendrick who tried to find the research linking cholesterol and heart disease. So far he has not found any.

 

[Loobles]

Oh Ann, I felt the same as you at first, but the more I looked into it, the more I realised it wasn't entirely my fault anyway. I'll let you do your own research to form your own opinion, but have a look first at a website called bloodsugar101, it explains why you didn't cause your diabetes and is a really interesting read. I found out 2 weeks ago and thanks to everything I've read I've now realised I shouldn't be ashamed. I'm still not making it general knowledge though - not because I'm ashamed (because I don't think I am now). but because I don't want to hear people asking if I should be eating this, that, or the other. If you check out my first ever post here, you'll see it was almost identical to yours, so you're not alone.

There is help out there generally, but you'll need to fight for it. I had to specifically ask my GP for certain things, which I would never have even thought about if it wasn't for the research I'd done and also things I'd read on the forum here. My advice would be to have a read around the forums, read bloodsugar101 and do some research into the low carb high fat diet for diabetics (it goes against what most out of date doctors suggest, but doctors in Scandinavia are very familiar with it now and I think it will go mainstream over here at some point).

Hugs x

Edited to add: I'd also recommend getting a glucometer - check out the SD Codefree from HomeHealth...the strips are about 25% of the cost of my previous meter.

 

[mo53]

Hello Ann. Ive just been for my first diabetic eye check appointment. If the nurse mentions referring you for one dont be at all worried. They put drops in your eyes and then take photos of your retinas. Totally painless but very important.

 

[Ann100]

It will be confusing for a while yet, but once you get to grips with things it will be easier LCHF is Low Carb High Fat and a lot of members use this diet a lot and have a lot of success with it where as for others it doesn't work. As for the diabetes nurse you can get some excellent ones (rarely) and some ok ones but most of the time they can be awful. The best bit of advice that you will be given here is to get a meter and test test test no matter what the dsn says. I have noticed that you are struggling with some of the terms on here like BG and things like that perhaps someone like @Giverny would put up the list again to explain the different ones.


Type 2 diagnosed 24/01/2013.
NovoRapid, Lantus, Victoza, Metformin (sr), Simvistatin

A list could e great yea, Hopefully @Givemy will help out And, hopefully I will have one of the excellent nurses too. I will keep you posted. Thanks for all your help

 

[Ann100]

LCHF stands for Low Carb High Fat and is a way of remembering one of the ways of eating recommended by many of the contributors on this site.




Thank you so much for all this info. I really had no idea what I was to avoid and eat from now on, as I haven't seen the nurse yet. It will feel very weird eating full fat stuff instead of low fat as I am currently on weight watchers and going for everything low fat!! When you say avoid sugar, does this mean I cant even have a weekly chocolate bar treat?

 

[Ann100]

Hi @Ann100 Just popping on to say welcome. I too am vegetarian and find the lchf way of eating very enjoyable. It has helped me with bg control an


Cool, thank you. I must admit that being a fello vegi and being allowed to eat all the full fat dairy stuff is rather appealing. Put I don't see how I can loose weight this way as I still have 3.5 stone to shift???

 

[Ann100]

BG is blood glucose, when I comes to meters it depends if your gp will supply you with strips.

Thanks for this info. I will see what nurse gives me next week and take it from there

 

[Ann100]

Oh Ann, I felt the same as you at first, but the more I looked into it, the more I realised it wasn't entirely my fault anyway. I'll let you do your own research to form your own opinion, but have a look first at a website called bloodsugar101, it explains why you didn't cause your diabetes and is a really interesting read. I found out 2 weeks ago and thanks to everything I've read I've now realised I shouldn't be ashamed. I'm still not making it general knowledge though - not because I'm ashamed (because I don't think I am now). but because I don't want to hear people asking if I should be eating this, that, or the other. If you check out my first ever post here, you'll see it was almost identical to yours, so you're not alone.

There is help out there generally, but you'll need to fight for it. I had to specifically ask my GP for certain things, which I would never have even thought about if it wasn't for the research I'd done and also things I'd read on the forum here. My advice would be to have a read around the forums, read bloodsugar101 and do some research into the low carb high fat diet for diabetics (it goes against what most out of date doctors suggest, but doctors in Scandinavia are very familiar with it now and I think it will go mainstream over here at some point).

Hugs x

Edited to add: I'd also recommend getting a glucometer - check out the SD Codefree from HomeHealth...the strips are about 25% of the cost of my previous meter.

Thank you loobles, there is so much brilliant information in your post. This has really help me and made me feel better about my emotions. I will check out bloodsugar101 right now!

 

[Squire Fulwood]

Thank you so much for all this info. I really had no idea what I was to avoid and eat from now on, as I haven't seen the nurse yet. It will feel very weird eating full fat stuff instead of low fat as I am currently on weight watchers and going for everything low fat!! When you say avoid sugar, does this mean I cant even have a weekly chocolate bar treat?

Chocolate can be eaten in small amounts but usually not in bar sized amounts. The higher the cocoa content the more you may be able to eat. More than 70% cocoa is better but if you like the milk chocolate then just one or two squares occasionally.

 

[Ann100]

Chocolate can be eaten in small

Thanks for the response but I have already decided to never eat it again. I usually have a bar on Friday nights, but it just feels like I would be putting poison in my mouth, so I have put a nice piece of full fat cheese in with my crisps instead! Are crisps allowed, and was I right to have the cheese?Goodness, this is scarey!

 

[Avocado Sevenfold]

@Ann
@Ann100
Personally, I would avoid the crisps for now as they are high carb and moreish. Chocolate with a high cocoa content is not too bad for blood glucose levels. It is very bitter as it is low in sugar. A trick is to eat a little 85% cocoa chocolate with almonds and berries. Feels like eating fruit and nut chocolate lol

 

[Squire Fulwood]

@Ann
@Ann100
Personally, I would avoid the crisps for now as they are high carb and moreish. Chocolate with a high cocoa content is not too bad for blood glucose levels. It is very bitter as it is low in sugar. A trick is to eat a little 85% cocoa chocolate with almonds and berries. Feels like eating fruit and nut chocolate lol

I like the sound of that.

 

[Avocado Sevenfold]

@Ann100

"Cool, thank you. I must admit that being a fello vegi and being allowed to eat all the full fat dairy stuff is rather appealing. Put I don't see how I can loose weight this way as I still have 3.5 stone to shift???"

Yes, it's weird. It goes against everything we have been told. Can only speak for myself, but I have lost just over 3 stone since Christmas without feeling hungry. Not the fastest weight loss in the world, but I reckon the easiest.

 

[Ann100]

@Ann100


Yes, it's weird. It goes against everything we have been told. Can only speak for myself, but I have lost just over 3 stone since Christmas without feeling hungry. Not the fastest weight loss in the world, but I reckon the easiest.

That's brilliant. Well done you. I have just signed up to Weight Watchers for 3 months, but I don't think counting points is whats important now.....

 

[Squire Fulwood]

Is it OK to eat cheese?

Probably but I am not an expert on cheese. If it comes processed and in a package you should look at the total carb figure on the label. I know that some brands use potato starch for bulking out purposes but I shouldn't worry about for now. When you get your meter you can find out which brands and types are ok for you.

By the way. When you go for your other test ask your doctor/nurse what the chances are of being supplied with a meter. I am not hopeful but you don't know unless you ask.

 

[Loobles]

@Ann100

"Cool, thank you. I must admit that being a fello vegi and being allowed to eat all the full fat dairy stuff is rather appealing. Put I don't see how I can loose weight this way as I still have 3.5 stone to shift???"

Yes, it's weird. It goes against everything we have been told. Can only speak for myself, but I have lost just over 3 stone since Christmas without feeling hungry. Not the fastest weight loss in the world, but I reckon the easiest.

Yes it does sound odd cos we've been given the wrong message that fats are bad (in my opinion). But take it from me, i've been doing lchf 3 weeks and have lost 12 pounds!