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robert72 said:
Well I don't ever remember having a day this smooth. Maybe because I'm testing a lot and not over reacting.
Really enjoying the Libre :)

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Fantastic results. With just finger pricks there is no way to know what's going on between pricks unless you have a cgm that is. What's with the 3 time changes - did you go the wrong way initially? ;)
 
logindetails said:
Fantastic results. With just finger pricks there is no way to know what's going on between pricks unless you have a cgm that is. What's with the 3 time changes - did you go the wrong way initially? ;)
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I only changed the time once - not sure why there are 3 badges
 
Following on from @logindetails analysis of beer here is the data of a good curry. As food digests over time I had a major spike. If I needed something to get me out for a run in the morning this was it. To caveat this I don't normally eat a big curry but it was my birthday meal. Every thing you can think of starter, main, side and wine.



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robert72 said:
Getting basal right is the key. Also I low carb, so errors are smaller (and I've had 42 years practice ;) )
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Well congratulations to you! Super impressive! I can't believe how much of an insight into daily bG changes the libre is giving....basal testing here I come!!
 
logindetails said:
The Good:
Went to the pub last night at about 21.30 and took the Libre with me. I normally have 3 pints then inject - another 3 pints and inject again and so on.
Well last night at 22.25 a scan showed fast rising sugars (this was after 1 1/2 pints) so I decided (based on the scan) to change my routine and inject early. I had another couple of pints then went home.

Note scans are on average 2 mmol/L lower than fingerprick readings (except a couple taken around midnight of 25th which were surprisingly accurate (!?)

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The glucose curve above shows I peaked at 23:03 @ 9.2 mmol/L - I'm still drinking at this point. Next visit to the pub I'll inject after 1 pint and see if I can flatten the peak a little more. I'd never have got such useful data from fingerpricks alone.

Below is the full data which I exported into Excel - the 2nd column is data the sensor recorded, the 3rd column is manual scan readings.

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The Bad:
Once my blood glucose had returned to normal, manual scans would only display 'LO', recorded data from the sensor flat lined at 2.2 mmol/L.

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Notice the gaps in the recorded data above - this is odd as the data exported into Excel (below) shows readings were recorded during these gaps.
The 4th column below is blood glucose readings. Unfortunately as things stand I can't use the Libre for seeing what my glucose levels are doing throughout the night.

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The Ugly:
I think my third sensor is dead - all I am getting now is:

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I am so glad I joined this thread. Still getting to gripps with my diabetes. This is really helpdul, never though about multiple injections when I ha e a drink. Hope I don't sound nieve.

Ps I live by the sea too.

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Hey guys!

I know it's a little late now for answers (I'm on hols so a late night!) but when you all login tomorrow, could you have a look at your readers and see if they're still showing whether your BG is rising or falling please? Mine seems to be always showing a horizontal arrow since I changed the time. Now, I had a pretty good BG day with just a couple of out-of-target spikes, but there are times when the BG was definitely rising or falling, but still the horizontal arrow. I'll ring Abbotts tomorrow, but would be good to know if yours are still showing the correct direction of BG.

Ta

Smidge
 
Hi all
Since it measures in I-Liquid not blood the 15-20 minutes gap is quite normal.
The BG shown on a screen is the one you had 15-20 minutes ago.
It's just the matter of a habbit to get used to it. Trends - that's what extremely important.
And if ...as in smidge's case it doesn't show trends correctly - that's a pity.
 
Wykoff said:
Hi all
Since it measures in I-Liquid not blood the 15-20 minutes gap is quite normal.
The BG shown on a screen is the one you had 15-20 minutes ago.
It's just the matter of a habbit to get used to it. Trends - that's what extremely important.
And if ...as in smidge's case it doesn't show trends correctly - that's a pity.
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For some this is correct my second sensor is now fitted, if I do a blood test then 10 mins later scan with the libre then the figures almost match

However my first sensor never gave a reading under 10.. And in quite a few tests it was 8mmol out.. Without eating so there was no rapid rise to affect it.. Simply a faulty sensor

A gap of between 3 and 8 could be dangerous, face it I could do a scan see 10 on the screen and be as low as 2

I'm happy to accept a difference of 1.5mmol. If I do a scan and it says 6 I then know I'm ok
 
"I'm happy to accept a difference of 1.5mmol. If I do a scan and it says 6 I then know I'm ok"

Well it just means that it was 6 10-15 minutes ago and can easily be 3-4 now.

It's crucial to re-check manually in "red zone" moments.

Especially on a falling trend.
 
Wykoff said:
"I'm happy to accept a difference of 1.5mmol. If I do a scan and it says 6 I then know I'm ok"

Well it just means that it was 6 10-15 minutes ago and can easily be 3-4 now.

It's crucial to re-check manually in "red zone" moments.

Especially on a falling trend.
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I wasn't eating so there was no rise or fall and it was wrong totally for 48hrs

My new sensor works as it should
 
My first sensor, day 5. I'm doing BG on the meter as well as scanning. The way it works for me is:

With stable levels the scan is near enough always 0.8mmol lower than a BG.

Rising BG the scan is 20 minutes behind plus the 0.8mmol lower than a BG. That can give a scan up to 4mmol lower than current BG.

Falling BG, the same delay/difference so the BG drops faster than the scan and the results get a lot closer. I've not yet seen a BG lower than a scan but I would image it will happen

As my next sensor will be put on the other arm I would not be surprised if the difference between scan and BG is different and the timing different, I expect it will take a couple of days to check out the variances. I'll never calculate bolus from a scan - quite sensibly the meter bolus calculation is linked to a BG test.

With regard to the trend data and graphs I reckon they are pretty accurate, simply time shifted 20 minutes and 0.8mmol low. This is Irrelevant to looking for trends and I can already see a clear pattern of overnight hypo's and overcorrection when they happen. Brilliant, I get to have a low GI bed time snack. Or tweak Levemir a touch.

The meter BW, gives identical results to a Neo but is about 1.2mmol lower than a Contour Next.
 

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Hi there, I have been following this thread as I am really keen to get the Libre and my husband has agreed I can get one as an early christmas present!

I wondered if anyone had any information with regards to the yearly subscription for the sensors? I have contacted Abbott but have heard nothing back from them and there is very little information on their site about it.

Does anyone know how you sign up for the subscription and if the products are discounted if you do?

Thank you.
 
MrsMushroom said:
Hi there, I have been following this thread as I am really keen to get the Libre and my husband has agreed I can get one as an early christmas present!

I wondered if anyone had any information with regards to the yearly subscription for the sensors? I have contacted Abbott but have heard nothing back from them and there is very little information on their site about it.

Does anyone know how you sign up for the subscription and if the products are discounted if you do?

Thank you.
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Hi Mrs Mushroom,

I'm afraid I don't know the answer, but if you ring Abbotts they will answer almost immediately - hardly any queueing - I've just come off the phone to them. If you fiil in their contact form on the website, they generally respond within 24 hours. Email is the slowest way to get a response as they are swamped with email and they prioritise the other two contact methods - as do most companies.

Smidge
 
smidge said:
Hey guys!

I know it's a little late now for answers (I'm on hols so a late night!) but when you all login tomorrow, could you have a look at your readers and see if they're still showing whether your BG is rising or falling please? Mine seems to be always showing a horizontal arrow since I changed the time. Now, I had a pretty good BG day with just a couple of out-of-target spikes, but there are times when the BG was definitely rising or falling, but still the horizontal arrow. I'll ring Abbotts tomorrow, but would be good to know if yours are still showing the correct direction of BG.

Ta

Smidge
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Update: I've just spoken to Abbott and they haven't seen this issue before. They think my BG might just be under such good control that it is moving too slowly for the rise or fall to register. I have gone through my recorded levels with them, both the scans and the downloaded levels and it is clear that my BG is rising and falling but it is not registering in the form of the directional arrow. Apparently, the horizontal arrow means your BG is changing at less than 0.1 mmol per minute. We went through my data and concluded that they would have expected to see a different directional arrow at times. However, they are thinking that my BG is changing slowly and because the directional arrow is only a comparison between what the BG is now (at time of scan) and the last few minutes, because my scanning yesterday was only every couple of hours the system might be missing the change of direction although it is recording the data. They have asked me to scan more frequently for the next few days and get back to them with the results They have recorded all the details and are taking it seriously. In the meantime I'm polishing my halo for having very slow-changing BG (even though I can see from the data that I was in double-figures for a couple of hours yesterday!) and will monitor the situation carefully - I think it is a fault and a pretty serious one.

If anyone gets the same issue, please tell Abbotts and be a bit wary of the directional arrows!

Thanks

Smidge
 
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