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Type 2's: What was your fasting blood glucose in a morning?

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Mine range from the low 5's to an occasional 8. What I find is the quicker I test (I have a Freestyle Libre so it is a quick scan) the lower the result is, over the 20 minutes form waking up to eating the blood sugar can go up by 20% to 40%.

Also if I have had hypos whilst sleeping, the blood sugar on waking seems to be a little higher.
 
4.8 at bedtime
5.5 this morning. This is my usual liver behaviour when I go to bed in the 4's. It sends me back to the 5's, always.

I don't test as much as you but I don't see 4s at bedtime, my lowest is about 5.2. Anyway, 5.6 this morning which is better :). Despite the last few days my 2-week fasting average has been 5.7 and pre-dinner average 5.3, only up a tad, with dinner +2 at 6.0. Last time I had an HbA1c they were 5.9, 5.9 and 6.4 although they had also been lower previously, so still going in the right direction long term and we'll see what tomorrow's tests bring. I've not put on any weight over the holiday despite the lack of exercise and more wine :).
 
Well, after my recent winning streak of 4 something's, the 5 something's have finally made a comeback - 5.5 today :( Hope to be back in 4 something territory again soon.:)

Happy Sunday all ;)
 
Thanks :) Rolled shoulder of lamb slow roasted, with a cheese board to follow. Jamie Oliver recipe.

More good news; I'm now under 12 stone for the first time in probably 30-odd years! 11 stone 13 3/4lbs this morning. The weight loss rate is slowing definitely, one and a half pounds in 5 days but still progressing. My target for next Sunday is another 2lbs off.
Wow good work::))
 
I don't test as much as you but I don't see 4s at bedtime, my lowest is about 5.2. Anyway, 5.6 this morning which is better :). Despite the last few days my 2-week fasting average has been 5.7 and pre-dinner average 5.3, only up a tad, with dinner +2 at 6.0. Last time I had an HbA1c they were 5.9, 5.9 and 6.4 although they had also been lower previously, so still going in the right direction long term and we'll see what tomorrow's tests bring. I've not put on any weight over the holiday despite the lack of exercise and more wine :).
Good luck with your test...
 
2 slices wholemeal toast, 2 metformin, coffee.
It will be all the carbs in the toast. Most can't eat any bread at
6 pounds in a week? - sounds more like dodgy scales to me; my digital ones are very temperamental. I repeatedly weigh until I get the same reading for at least three times in succession. The first is usually 2-3 pounds more than the stable figure. If you did put 6 pounds, that's like 20,000 calories!

My scales never vary, they are digital ones too and as long as they are in the same spot will repeatedly weigh exactly the same..

When I have a flare up of my fibromyalgia I have so little energy to do things that my normal food intake puts weight on me quite quickly, that, added to the extra calories of the nut butters (600 per 100gs) soon adds up to extra pounds
 
Jan, reading some of your posts on here and on the "what have you eaten..." thread makes me feel you are playing diabetic Russian roullette. Your carb and I am guessing general food intake has increased of late, with more carbs creeping in, it appears, and your scores sometimes matching those diversions. Toast, marmalade, ginger cake with "proper" sugar etc, not to mention snacking, on buttered bread, in the small hours. Not a lot of that makes sense to my logic..

I've always been able to eat one slice of toast for breakfast - even with one teaspoon of marmalade (hardly any carbs in a teaspoon) with a spike of between 1 to 1.5 max. The ginger cake isn't "proper" sugar - it is coconut palm sugar which is low GI/GL hence my reason for trying it. If we don't try and test we don't know what effect foods have on us and may be cutting out foods we could eat and therefore limiting ourselves unnecessarily ). My general carb intake hasn't changed much at all either - I just didn't know about the "what have you eaten today" thread and wasn't recording my foods there until recently. If anything, what has increased is my fat intake as so many people on this and other threads advocate that eating more fat has helped foods not to spike their bs - butter or cream in coffee, fat bombs and the like (neither of which I'd ever consider knowing their calorie content) the nut butters were also mentioned so thought I would try those as they are at least high in nutrients other than fat. I've already cut back on them seeing their impact
You have done well to reduce your blood scores from pre-diabetic to the non-diabetic ranges by watching your diet, and I am no advocate of anyone giving up anything they really don't need to, but by your own admission it would be helpful to your overall wellbeing to trim up a bit more? Why not just focus and get on with that for now? Surely, once you reach whatever your desired weight is (I'm guessing somewhere in the "healthy" BMI band), you may have more leeway for experimentation, and a greater chance of staying in the bloods and weight bands you desire.

Yes, I have, and doing by doing the same as I am now. Of course losing more weight would be good but I have lost over a stone and a half already - doing exactly as I am now....eating and testing and avoiding anything that gives me unacceptable spikes.
As you are aware, many newly diagnosed people come onto this thread; often as an easy way to introduce themselves, and I feal some of your posts could be confusing for those individuals who are often really struggling to get their heads around the concept of diabetes and carb control - whether cutting, going wholemeal or even down the (in my view) questionable GI route.

I am quite aware that newly diagnosed come onto this thread, as I did. And I am sure you are quite aware that I also make the point about testing "your own" carb tolerance in many of my posts.....
I'm not sitting here, polishing my halo, or suggesting I'm the perfect diabetic. I'm certainly not. But, I learned so much from the members of this site that I can only be eternally grateful, and as such, having done quite well, I want to continue to support newbies, by continuing to live a healthier life.

I wish you well.
I too have learned much but many of the newbies reading some of the posts of those who are so very strictly controlled with their diets may fear that it will all be too hard for them to do. They may feel a slip up is catastrophe and give up on themselves before they start. I'm one of the people who does slip up from time to time, I say so, I admit to others and myself. I "record it and move on". I'm sure you mean well but your post actually felt like a direct attack for daring to try foods, to test them, to learn from the test results. I'm pleased that you can manage such strict control of your intake of carbs but I am someone who finds some days easy and some days really difficult. If anything helps newbies it is someones admission of this.
 
I've always been able to eat one slice of toast for breakfast - even with one teaspoon of marmalade (hardly any carbs in a teaspoon) with a spike of between 1 to 1.5 max. The ginger cake isn't "proper" sugar - it is coconut palm sugar which is low GI/GL hence my reason for trying it. If we don't try and test we don't know what effect foods have on us and may be cutting out foods we could eat and therefore limiting ourselves unnecessarily ). My general carb intake hasn't changed much at all either - I just didn't know about the "what have you eaten today" thread and wasn't recording my foods there until recently. If anything, what has increased is my fat intake as so many people on this and other threads advocate that eating more fat has helped foods not to spike their bs - butter or cream in coffee, fat bombs and the like (neither of which I'd ever consider knowing their calorie content) the nut butters were also mentioned so thought I would try those as they are at least high in nutrients other than fat. I've already cut back on them seeing their impact


Yes, I have, and doing by doing the same as I am now. Of course losing more weight would be good but I have lost over a stone and a half already - doing exactly as I am now....eating and testing and avoiding anything that gives me unacceptable spikes.


I am quite aware that newly diagnosed come onto this thread, as I did. And I am sure you are quite aware that I also make the point about testing "your own" carb tolerance in many of my posts.....

I too have learned much but many of the newbies reading some of the posts of those who are so very strictly controlled with their diets may fear that it will all be too hard for them to do. They may feel a slip up is catastrophe and give up on themselves before they start. I'm one of the people who does slip up from time to time, I say so, I admit to others and myself. I "record it and move on". I'm sure you mean well but your post actually felt like a direct attack for daring to try foods, to test them, to learn from the test results. I'm pleased that you can manage such strict control of your intake of carbs but I am someone who finds some days easy and some days really difficult. If anything helps newbies it is someones admission of this.

I posted in the interest of your and others' wellbeing; not to pick an argument.

Of course, you can eat whatever you choose, in whatever quantities you choose. In the same spirit, I would ask you to think about the proportions of carbs/protein/fat you are eating. Of course, I have no idea what those are, and it isn't any of my business, but carbs + fat is associated with weight gain. Often those consuming fat bombs and the like are following a ketogenic diet, with significantly high proportions of their calories from fat, and correspondingly low levels of carbs.

Coconut palm sugar is an interesting one. I'm not a great believer in GI, as I believe the benefits are marginal, relating to the bigger picture for many carb sensitive individuals, but palm cane sugar is a natural sugar, which still contains sucrose and fructose. A very quick Google returns the usual plethora of supporting and conflicting articles and sources. It does contain more desirable micronutrients, but your have to eat a lot of the stuff to actually gain any benefit, and coupled with coconut palm sugar containing the same number of calories per gramme as cane sugar, that seems like white noise.

I wish you well, and I genuinely hope when you get around to a controlled test of the ginger cake it is as benign as your initial feelings.

Like you, I have days when I find dietary control a bit overwhelming, but I just have to steel myself to get on with it. This new way of being is my lifestyle choice now. Having returned several non-diabetic range HbA1cs, and got skinny, I do now consume more carbs that I did initially, without too much trouble to my meter, but I try not to push the envelope too far. I'm not that bold. Perhaps I'm just a big wuuuussss. I'll live with that prospect, for now.
 
I've always been able to eat one slice of toast for breakfast - even with one teaspoon of marmalade (hardly any carbs in a teaspoon) with a spike of between 1 to 1.5 max. The ginger cake isn't "proper" sugar - it is coconut palm sugar which is low GI/GL hence my reason for trying it. If we don't try and test we don't know what effect foods have on us and may be cutting out foods we could eat and therefore limiting ourselves unnecessarily ). My general carb intake hasn't changed much at all either - I just didn't know about the "what have you eaten today" thread and wasn't recording my foods there until recently. If anything, what has increased is my fat intake as so many people on this and other threads advocate that eating more fat has helped foods not to spike their bs - butter or cream in coffee, fat bombs and the like (neither of which I'd ever consider knowing their calorie content) the nut butters were also mentioned so thought I would try those as they are at least high in nutrients other than fat. I've already cut back on them seeing their impact


Yes, I have, and doing by doing the same as I am now. Of course losing more weight would be good but I have lost over a stone and a half already - doing exactly as I am now....eating and testing and avoiding anything that gives me unacceptable spikes.


I am quite aware that newly diagnosed come onto this thread, as I did. And I am sure you are quite aware that I also make the point about testing "your own" carb tolerance in many of my posts.....

I too have learned much but many of the newbies reading some of the posts of those who are so very strictly controlled with their diets may fear that it will all be too hard for them to do. They may feel a slip up is catastrophe and give up on themselves before they start. I'm one of the people who does slip up from time to time, I say so, I admit to others and myself. I "record it and move on". I'm sure you mean well but your post actually felt like a direct attack for daring to try foods, to test them, to learn from the test results. I'm pleased that you can manage such strict control of your intake of carbs but I am someone who finds some days easy and some days really difficult. If anything helps newbies it is someones admission of this.

Hi,

I'm not wanting to start interfering in the discussion, but I just want to make one point:

If you (anyone) is low carbing and adding fat (nut butters) to their diet results in rapid gain, then they are above their personal carb threshold.

If the added carbs in the nut butters were what tipped you over the edge, then you must have been teetering on the brink.

That isn't a judgement, merely an observation.
 
Thanks :) Rolled shoulder of lamb slow roasted, with a cheese board to follow. Jamie Oliver recipe.

More good news; I'm now under 12 stone for the first time in probably 30-odd years! 11 stone 13 3/4lbs this morning. The weight loss rate is slowing definitely, one and a half pounds in 5 days but still progressing. My target for next Sunday is another 2lbs off.

Very pleased that two hours after lunch and several helpings of roast lamb, one small piece of parsnip and some roasted carrots (plus gravy and four types of greens, but no potatoes) half a bottle of a Cote du Rhone and several goes at the cheese board, a BG of... 5.3, that's lower than my FBG today :)
 
Before tea 9.3 had soup for lunch with one small slice of burgen bread and some blueberries. Just finished my friends bridegroom bear
 

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Very pleased that two hours after lunch and several helpings of roast lamb, one small piece of parsnip and some roasted carrots (plus gravy and four types of greens, but no potatoes) half a bottle of a Cote du Rhone and several goes at the cheese board, a BG of... 5.3, that's lower than my FBG today :)
Just for interest: your two hours after, after lunch finished or when lunch started.... I ask, as I'm a slow eater and dinner can take 30 mins.... cheers Hj
 
It will be all the carbs in the toast. Most can't eat any bread at


My scales never vary, they are digital ones too and as long as they are in the same spot will repeatedly weigh exactly the same..

When I have a flare up of my fibromyalgia I have so little energy to do things that my normal food intake puts weight on me quite quickly, that, added to the extra calories of the nut butters (600 per 100gs) soon adds up to extra pounds
I have digital scales in the bathroom.
I went to the surgery a few months back and their old fashioned but good quality spring type bathroom scales had me as seven pounds heavier.
Obviously theirs are wrong.
Weighed myself on my daughters cheap spring scales they read exactly the same as the surgeries!
 
My spring scales are about the same as two out of three of my main hospitals and the same as my GP's. I suppose I am lucky in that way.
 
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