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gennie 24

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Hi, saw my diabetes specialist nurse last Tuesday and my 3 months blood test had gone up from 7·5 to 7·6 ---
I am on 2x80mg of Gliclazide and 5x 500mg of metformin. I also have 1 injection of Victoza per day.
My nurse said I need to begin Insulin instead of the Victosa (I never lost any weight on it)
I was absolutely shocked by that suggestion. She said I could try Forxiga for 3 months and see how I go first..
Today my fasting bloods this morning was 7·3- I had 2 slices of wholemeal bread and a banana & a black coffee. I tested before lunch it was 10·9 - lunch was 3 ryvita with low cottage cheese and 10 prawns and 1 can of Pepsi max. Nothing else. I have just tested my bloods before tea and its now 11·8!!! I am scared to eat anything!
I would be grateful for any comments/thoughts.;)
 
Banana and Pepsi max have to go.
Your readings aren't that bad so ditch the bananas and coke and see what happens.
Bread isn't so good either.
 
I agree with JACKTHELAD. Your readings are not that disastrous, but if I might suggest, try and reduce your carbs a bit and see what happens. Fizzy drinks are loaded with sugar, so try to avoid those. I have done without them since I was diagnosed 6 months ago and I honestly don't miss them. Coffee or tea with sweeteners would be going in the right direction.
 
Banana and Pepsi max have to go.
Your readings aren't that bad so ditch the bananas and coke and see what happens.
Bread isn't so good either.
The banana ditch by all means the Pepsi Max is a low-calorie, sugar-free cola, marketed by PepsiCo as an alternative to Pepsi and Diet Pepsi.

Try some Burgen bread, (linseed) as lower carb rather than the wholemeal.
 
Try some LivLife Low Carb bread (3.9g carbs per slice) also

Bananas will spike you as they are essentially sugar
 
surely pepsi max is ok as far as sugar goes?
Sorry I don't really know much about fizzy drinks I thought Max might mean sugar!!!! .... and lots of it.
 
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Sorry I don't really know much about fizzy drinks I thought Max might meed sugar!!!! .... and lots of it.

nah,1 of the fizzy drinks that dont efect me sugar levels,,,zero carb near enuff! :)
 
if you haven't eaten, go and fry/scramble 3 eggs or a 3 egg omelet , low carb and good for you
by the time you get back, there will be lots of ideas for you
 
Hi, saw my diabetes specialist nurse last Tuesday and my 3 months blood test had gone up from 7·5 to 7·6 ---
I am on 2x80mg of Gliclazide and 5x 500mg of metformin. I also have 1 injection of Victoza per day.
My nurse said I need to begin Insulin instead of the Victosa (I never lost any weight on it)
I was absolutely shocked by that suggestion. She said I could try Forxiga for 3 months and see how I go first..
Today my fasting bloods this morning was 7·3- I had 2 slices of wholemeal bread and a banana & a black coffee. I tested before lunch it was 10·9 - lunch was 3 ryvita with low cottage cheese and 10 prawns and 1 can of Pepsi max. Nothing else. I have just tested my bloods before tea and its now 11·8!!! I am scared to eat anything!
I would be grateful for any comments/thoughts.;)
Hello . @gennie 24
Warm welcome to us all here .

Will get @daisy1 to post you - her great welcome post .
On this is loads of basic start off with ideas and advice to read up on .
It is a good start and place to begin a read of/with .
 
Nope - as many as 22 cubes of sugar in a can of this .
Best avoided as a Diabetic .
So how come folks are thinking it's sugar free?
Goes off to Google .....
 
Coke cola and Pepsi Max have loads of sugar in them .
Hence the sugar cubes !

Coke 'zero' has sweetners instead of laden sugars .
 
Pepsi Max - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepsi_Max
Now regarded as a precursor to Pepsi Edge, it was sweetened with a combination of aspartame and high fructose corn syrup. As a result, it contained 2/3 fewer calories than full-sugar colas (including regular Pepsi), but more calories than conventional diet/light colas (or the version of Pepsi Max sold elsewhere).
 
Water is best ... ;):happy:
I avoid "all" coke's and pepsi's :)
 
Diet Doctor suspects that sweeteners may trigger insulin response therefore putting weight on or making it harder to shift weight.
I'm so glad I have never enjoyed fizzy drinks.
 
I can have 2 ryvita with no problem. but if I have 3 my BG goes shooting up, so maybe try cutting down to 2? And if you swap the cottage cheese for a hard cheese, cheddar etc, it should help fill you up for longer.

Instead of the banana for breakfast try swapping that for a couple of eggs and/or bacon, or cheese, something with no sugar, and swap the wholemeal bread to Burgen Soya And Linseed Bread, fewer carbs so hopefully a smaller or no spike!

Livlife bread is low carb if you can find it, but I've not been able to get any round here, Waitrose don't always stock it. Sainsbury do a Hi-Lo loaf which is lower carb so worth looking out for that too.

Those changes will take a lot of sugar/carbs out of your diet and should help your levels :)
 
Nope - as many as 22 cubes of sugar in a can of this .
Best avoided as a Diabetic .

Pepsi Max
Ingredients:
Carbonated Water, Colour (Caramel E150d), Sweeteners (Aspartame, Acesulfame K), Phosphoric Acid, Flavourings (Including Caffeine), Preservative (Sodium Benzoate), Citric Acid, Contains a Source of Phenylalanine.
No sugar but has aspartame, just as bad.

removed shopping for sale items -link Anna29
 
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@gennie 24

Hello Gennie and welcome to the forum :)

Lots of good advice there to think about. The important thing is to cut right down on the carbohydrates. Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful. Ask all the questions you like and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 140,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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