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wilby1960

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Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
I have been diagnosed with type 2 about 5 months ago treated orally with metformin 500mg 3 times daily at my 3 month review i have been told my blood tests show that the meds are controlling both my type 2 and my cholesterol.
the problem I have is that I am getting more and more fatigued to the point where I am having to have power naps through the day even to get through them. I have supposedly had all the blood tests i can and they are all clear iI am seriously considering the possibility of stopping the meds because i felt far better before i took them. Has anyone had similar experiences to this or can you point me in the right direction of discussions i should be having with my health care provider.

I am starting to give up hope.
 
Hi wilby and welcome
I will tag @daisy1 and she will be along with some information for new members to the site
I find that I need a nap at about 13.00 hrs but I don't know how to stop the need and I have never really thought about it I hope someone will be along with the answer for you
Keep well stay safe JJ
 
@wilby1960

Hello Wilby and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information we give to new members and I hope that by following this will help you feel better. Lots more advice from members will come along later I am sure. Ask more questions and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
I find if I eat too many carbs I need and I mean need a power nap after eating !
 
Hi @wilby1960 welcome to the forum , i was diagnosed in April 2015, i went on the Newsastle diet and i have seemed to be controlling my Type " with diet and esercise
 
Morning wilby1960

Extreme tiredness is the one real thing that is getting me down too.

I was diagnosed April 13th 2015, and on Metformin 500g x3 with no issues, and following the great diet advice provided by so many on this site, keeping my Carbs to under 70g a day and that mostly from salad, veg and blueberries.

My fasting BG is averaging 5.5 so overall I am happy, BUT I am so knackered all of the time.

I guess what we don't know is exactly how much effect the Metformin is actually having on our BG and overall wellbeing, and how much of it is the better diet.

I was feeling pretty dreadful in the weeks before my diagnosis, but apart from being really tired all of the time, I felt much better quite soon after starting the Metformin and changing my diet. I went headlong into it, and started the full dose within a couple of days and cut the carbs straight away, so again what is the main driver behind the change is open to debate.

I am seeing my GP in a fortnight for my 3 month chat, so I will ask about the tiredness, but no doubt he will just say it's "normal".
 
Vis-a-vis improvements to glucose control in the newly diagnosed T2, it is my belief that the greatest impact comes from what we eat (or no longer eat!), than the use of Metformin. Metformin will shave the edges off your numbers, but the big impact comes from diet, and where possible, moving around a bit more.

I sometimes wonder if some of this fatigue is either not eating enough, or eating something that doesn't quite agree with us. When we are trying to lose weight, and cut down on the carbs, we will usually create a calorie deficit.

So, firstly, I'd do a couple of days recording every morsel I ate or drank, and log it in something like myfitnesspal and see how that looks. If it looks like an OK amount, then, still using myfitnesspal, or whatever, look at what you're eating and see if there is any connection between eating certain foods and the fatigue. It could easily be something you were already eating, but maybe not so much, or so regularly.

Finally, if you are taking statins, they can sometimes cause a variety of side effects you might want to look at.
 
Hi could you please let us know what you would typically eat in a day as eating too many carbs will definately make you tired and sometimes a bit grumpy. Have you tried the LCHF way of eating, the food is great and you have boundless energy so it might be worth a try. I used to be on metformin 3 x a day but I am now off all medication. There is a lot of great advice on the forums so dont be afraid to ask questions.
 
Hi 4ratbags I think you may be on the right track there is probably still to many carbs in my diet I have looked at your suggestion of the LCHF diet plan and am going to try that way and see if it helps I also have been thinking that I am not drinking any ware near anougth fluids so will try to up that to thanks all for your assistance fingers crossed I will report back if thing improve
 
The LCHF woyld definately be a good starting point for you. Even if you can start making some small changes you should start to see some improvement. Please do keep us posted and if you need to ask more questions go for it we are here to help.
 
Metformin will shave the edges off your numbers, but the big impact comes from diet, and where possible, moving around a bit more.

I think we all have different experiences with Metformin. I know some people who didn't notice any difference until they started taking 2 gms a day, lower doses making no difference at all.

I started on just Metformin, and actually increased my carb intake as recommended by my GP, only to end up also having to take Gliclazide and Januvia. Lowering my carb intake to less than 100gms a day has enabled me to ditch those two and just on Metformin again. As you say, moving about a bit more can make a big difference, even walking.
 
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