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Hi, I am new to diabetes, I've spent a lot of my life on diets and low fat has been drilled into my head. Slimming world has been the biggest influence on me
and, I'm struggling to get my head round what I can have. I love pasta, rice and jacket potatoes, I also have muller light yoghurts.
Reading the information I'm not doing my self any favours. What is the best replacement for my carbs, and what yoghurts are the best ones for low sugar.
I still need to loose weight. Can any one help please .:(
 

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Hi and welcome to the forum, I'll tag @daisy1 who has some good info about this that she can post for you.

I have replaced most of my carbs with dairy products, meat, chicken, and fish. The possibilities are endless and I am really enjoying the food. To find the lowest carb yoghurt I read the nutritional info on the packet and look for how many grams of carbs per 100g of product. Greek natural yoghurt that is full fat, ie not "light" is usually the lowest in carbs.
 
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Most Greek Yoghurts are under 5g of carbs per 100, some as low as 3.5g even the low or nil fat versions. As soon as they start to add any flavouring the carb levels are almost bound to shoot up, so it is usually best to get the plain variety and add berries or low carb sweetener yourself.
 
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@didodes

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it generally useful and in particular helps you with working out what to eat. Plenty of members will reply too. Ask as many questions as you like.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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Hi, I am new to diabetes, I've spent a lot of my life on diets and low fat has been drilled into my head. Slimming world has been the biggest influence on me
and, I'm struggling to get my head round what I can have. I love pasta, rice and jacket potatoes, I also have muller light yoghurts.
Reading the information I'm not doing my self any favours. What is the best replacement for my carbs, and what yoghurts are the best ones for low sugar.
I still need to loose weight. Can any one help please .:(

The standard NHS advice is to eat plenty of starchy complex carbs at every meal, with the theory that complex carbs are digested more slowly. They may do that in people without diabetes, but some of us find that brown rice, whole wheat pasta, spelt etc do still spike our blood glucose badly.

Your blood glucose meter will show you what you can and can't eat, but generally the lower your carbs, the lower your BG will be. How much you need to restrict your carbs will depend on your own BG.

Protein can be helpful, it keeps you feeling full and digests slowly , but any excess you eat above what your body wants for repairs, gets turned into glucose. Again, this very much depends on your blood glucose, some people find no effect at all.

The only thing that you can scoff without any effect on BG is fat. I was reared on the low fat diet too and I know it feels like jumping off a cliff to start eating it. But look around the forum and you'll find plenty of people who have improved cholesterol, triglycerides etc while eating more fat. You'll also find lots of recipes.

I'll also recommend reading www.dietdoctor.com/lchf so that you know what a low carb high fat moderate protein diet should be, before you get confused by people calling themselves low carbers, but eating bread or 150g of carbs.
 
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Hi. Together with the lower carbs, have enough protein and fats, as well as veg, to keep you feeling full. Just ignore most previous advice from the experts and the media. I have Irish Yogurts fruit yogurts with no added sugar ; just that from the fruit.
 

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I'll also recommend reading www.dietdoctor.com/lchf so that you know what a low carb high fat moderate protein diet should be, before you get confused by people calling themselves low carbers, but eating bread or 150g of carbs.

I understand your point, but I call myself a low carber and aim for 100-150g of carbs a day, usually getting closer to 100g. (And I never eat bread). I don't know what other word to use to describe my eating pattern. I used to eat 400g+ a day. If I'm speaking to a newbie I say low carb but if I'm speaking to someone already on 100g a day who is ready to go lower, then I clarify the amount I eat, to avoid confusion. My current level of carbs works for me but when I reach a weight loss plateau like I have before, I will probably need to drop to 50g or even less. Not looking forward to that, but needs must.
 

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  • QUOTE="CatLadyNZ, post: 939511, member: 43498"]I understand your point, but I call myself a low carber and aim for 100-150g of carbs a day, usually getting closer to 100g. (And I never eat bread). I don't know what other word to use to describe my eating pattern.[/QUOTE]

The (American) Institute of Medicine's Food and Nutrition Board gives the figure of 130g of carbs per day as a minimum requirement, even though there are no essential carbs :D

I had 27g of carbs yesterday.
 

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  • QUOTE="CatLadyNZ, post: 939511, member: 43498"]I understand your point, but I call myself a low carber and aim for 100-150g of carbs a day, usually getting closer to 100g. (And I never eat bread). I don't know what other word to use to describe my eating pattern.
The (American) Institute of Medicine's Food and Nutrition Board gives the figure of 130g of carbs per day as a minimum requirement, even though there are no essential carbs :D

I had 27g of carbs yesterday.[/QUOTE]
Since I made the above post, I've been thinking about this and I think I actually eat closer to 50g of carbs a day. I started out higher but after I got past the carb flu I found it easy to eat less carbs. It's almost miraculous, isn't it?
 
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I didn't have carb flu, luckily, but I had caffeine withdrawal from giving up Diet Coke & Diet Pepsi which was pretty horrible.

50g is the way to go yay :D
 
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