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Type 2 some advice please

collette17

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Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hi I wonder if anyone can give me some advice please I'm t2 and have been on meformin for just over 4 weeks 1x500mg twice daily havnt had many problems so far up until today was 8.4 this morning before breakfast so had a light breakfast then had my flu jab around 11.30 this morning checked bloods at 12 noon an I was at 4.4 so had a sandwich with 2 slices of bread and some ham then by 3 pm I was 4.4 again and I was traveling so just grabed a packet of crisps from a garage I could find and then later on checked my sugar again and it was down to 4.2 this was at 6 pm so then had tea which was a jacket potatoe with salad and cheese and had a thin slice of cake with dinner aswell just started to feel a bit low again checked it again and its back down to 4.1 my questions are could this be with having the flu jab or am I not eating enough or am I eating the wrong things please can anyone give me some advice as to why I'm having problems keeping my sugars up today thanks in advance xxxx
 
Hi I wonder if anyone can give me some advice please I'm t2 and have been on meformin for just over 4 weeks 1x500mg twice daily havnt had many problems so far up until today was 8.4 this morning before breakfast so had a light breakfast then had my flu jab around 11.30 this morning checked bloods at 12 noon an I was at 4.4 so had a sandwich with 2 slices of bread and some ham then by 3 pm I was 4.4 again and I was traveling so just grabed a packet of crisps from a garage I could find and then later on checked my sugar again and it was down to 4.2 this was at 6 pm so then had tea which was a jacket potatoe with salad and cheese and had a thin slice of cake with dinner aswell just started to feel a bit low again checked it again and its back down to 4.1 my questions are could this be with having the flu jab or am I not eating enough or am I eating the wrong things please can anyone give me some advice as to why I'm having problems keeping my sugars up today thanks in advance xxxx
Hello collett17, sorry to hear your a bit wobbly ,can you tell us exactly what your eating and size of portions,are you lchf and are you over or underweight for your height and age,do you know your bmi?sometimes when we try and drop our bs's too quick it makes us a bit wobbly,please let keep posting and i'm sure we can help you,clive
 
Hello collett17, sorry to hear your a bit wobbly ,can you tell us exactly what your eating and size of portions,are you lchf and are you over or underweight for your height and age,do you know your bmi?sometimes when we try and drop our bs's too quick it makes us a bit wobbly,please let keep posting and i'm sure we can help you,clive
Hi Clive I am only eating normal portions size like a small jacket potatoes with 1 tabelspoon of cheese on I'm overweight for my height which is 5/8 and I'm 14/4 I was 16/2 not 8 weeks ago so I have lost quite a bit of weight and not really through trying just watching what I eat and how much so this morning I had a 35grams of cornflakes with semi skimed milk and then for lunch I had 2 slices of Warburtons white bread with 2 slices of ham on and then I had a packet of walkers prawn cocktail crips around 3 pm and for dinner I had a small jacket potatoe I could fit it in my hand with a tablespoon if cheese and a slice of cake which was around 40 grams of cake I'm not sure if it could be something to do with the flu jab that I had today I don't usually have any problems xx
 
I think it's possible that the flu jab is affecting things, so I wouldn't place any store in your readings until at least 48 hours after the jab.

If after that point you still have lowish BGs after meals, you might want to read up about reactive hypoglycaemia. Test before each meal as well as 2 hours afterwards. There is info about RH in @nosher8355 's signature.

If your BGs are going above 8.5 then you would need to reduce the rather high amount of carbs you are eating.
 
Thankyou so much I thought I was doing something wrong but I haven't changed my portion sizes today they have been the same as every other day and I will try the new testing and see if that helps thankyou so much cat for your time xxxx
 
Hi @collette17

I have what is known as Reactive Hypoglycaemia.
If you have a look at my signature below, there is three links, the bottom one is information on RH!

To me though, I couldn't say what is going on! Your readings are low(ish) but not in hypo range. Do you have hypo symptoms?
If you are diabetic why so many carbs?
 
To be honest I haven't got a clue what I am doing I went to see my gp he diagnosed me with type 2 diabetes gave me metformin and sent me away and told me to book in to see the nurse so I did that went to see the nurse hopeing for some information and came out 10 mins later with nothing at all I haven't had any booklets or appointments or anything the nurse said she was sending me to see someone for a eye check and to see a diabetic nurse from the hospital and I've still not heard anything I don't know anyone who is diabetic and I have no information I've been trying to read up on it from different websites and within this forum but honestly I haven't got a clue what I'm doing or how to control it I feel like I'm in deep water and I can't swim if you know what I mean x
 
Ok, that sounds more like every diabetic, that doesn't get good health care in this and other countries.
I would do as suggested, keep an eye on your blood glucose levels, especially two hours and three hours after eating, do the occasional one hour. And note any lows. Reduce your carbs slowly and read the low carb forum.
We all feel lost and alone when first diagnosed but the people on here are knowledgeable and will help you.
Keep posting and let us know how you are doing.
Best wishes.
 
To be honest I haven't got a clue what I am doing I went to see my gp he diagnosed me with type 2 diabetes gave me metformin and sent me away and told me to book in to see the nurse so I did that went to see the nurse hopeing for some information and came out 10 mins later with nothing at all I haven't had any booklets or appointments or anything the nurse said she was sending me to see someone for a eye check and to see a diabetic nurse from the hospital and I've still not heard anything I don't know anyone who is diabetic and I have no information I've been trying to read up on it from different websites and within this forum but honestly I haven't got a clue what I'm doing or how to control it I feel like I'm in deep water and I can't swim if you know what I mean x
I would make a phone call about the diabetic nurse from the hospital - either to the hospital if you know which number to call, or to the surgery. Chase them up and get an appointment at the hospital asap.

For information about diabetes and what to do, pretty much everything you need to know to get started is in @daisy1 's welcome post.

Basically, start with reducing your starchy carbs like bread, potatoes, rice, pasta, cereals and porridge. Increase your intake of veges that grow above the ground. Hang in there until you are past the 48 hour mark with the flu jab then start testing before and 2 hours after meals, to find out the effect that different foods have on your BG.
 
To be honest I haven't got a clue what I am doing I went to see my gp he diagnosed me with type 2 diabetes gave me metformin and sent me away and told me to book in to see the nurse so I did that went to see the nurse hopeing for some information and came out 10 mins later with nothing at all I haven't had any booklets or appointments or anything the nurse said she was sending me to see someone for a eye check and to see a diabetic nurse from the hospital and I've still not heard anything I don't know anyone who is diabetic and I have no information I've been trying to read up on it from different websites and within this forum but honestly I haven't got a clue what I'm doing or how to control it I feel like I'm in deep water and I can't swim if you know what I mean x

@collette17


Hello Collette and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helps you. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to reply.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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