I keep thinking back to how close I was to dying from a disease I didn't know I had.

bobneil

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All because I thought it was a flu.
It's late, and for the first time since I left the hospital on Jan 30th, I'm taking a look back at how bad things really were. I managed to get treated just in time.

The timeline starts around the second week of January.
I noticed that I was pretty thirsty all the time. I had a bad dry mouth, to the point I could go over half an hour without needing to swallow. I thought my saliva glands had stopped working. I ended up buying some Biotene spray just to soak my mouth before I went to bed. It made my days at work pretty annoying because not only was I chugging water like mad, but I was going to the bathroom every 20 minutes to pee. If I didn't have water, my mouth got so parched that my tongue stuck to my teeth and I couldn't talk to customers.

I wasn't getting any sleep from all the pee breaks either, waking a minimum of once per hour to go. I tried reducing my water intake, but found my thirst insatiable - I was easily drinking between 2 and 3 liters per day. Every morning when I woke up, my feet and calves immediately cramped up really tight, and to get out of the pain I had to get up quickly and walk around a bit. This had never happened before, and I wasn't sure what to think about it. I started writing down the thirst and the cramps as symptoms of something, but didn't have a lead on what it might be. The real trouble started on..

Sunday, January 22nd

After a normal day at work, I went and got a burger and large milkshake at McDonalds. It came back out about two hours later - I very rarely get nauseous, so I assumed that I simply had too much to eat at once, lesson learned.​

Monday, January 23rd
In the morning, I found that I was just not feeling well at all, and called in sick. I spent the day doing what I normally do, still drinking water constantly, but didn't think anything of it. I threw up after dinner, and affirmed to myself that I was going to stay home again.​

Tuesday, January 24th


I still wasn't feeling better, threw up my wonderful breakfast, and called in again apologizing for what I thought was a contagious flu that I picked up from someone else. It made sense, given that I'd avoided getting the flu all winter so far. At this point, I was frustrated at wasting good meals, so I switched to eating just pineapple - it seemed to stay down longer than anything else.​

Wednesday, January 25th

I had some soup for lunch but it only stayed down for a few hours. At this point the vomiting wasn't just once, it was 3 or 4 in a row until I was cleaned right out. I started to wonder if maybe my flu was just advanced because it's been 7 years since my last shot. I felt dizzy when not lying down and stopped using the computer. I stopped doing anything, really. I knew that I had to keep drinking water no matter what, because I was always told dry heaves are very dangerous. This was going to be tough and ugly, but I just had to wait it out... right?​

Thursday, January 26th

Dad brought home a case of ginger ale. It's always been used to settle upset stomachs in my family, being a lot more palatable than ginger root. I had established a sleeping spot next to the toilet, and I alternated between water and ginger ale. The only food I was eating at this point was pineapple slices. I started to get very painful, back-to-front headaches as soon as I would stand up, so I kept my movement to a minimum. I spent a lot of the day switching spots to lie down, going between the bathroom floor and the couch nearby.​

Friday January 27th
I continued the pineapple and ginger ale diet. The headaches were keeping me on the floor until I had to eat, and my breathing had become rather rushed, as if I had just finished a marathon - but all the time. I now know this to be a pattern called Kussmaul breathing, seen only in serious problems. My family were very concerned for me at this point. I don't blame them one bit for holding off on taking action, because they were just as convinced as I was that it had to be an awful flu and I'd just have to wait until it got better. Their minds were changed the next morning.​

Saturday January 28th

This is where the memory cuts out. The following details were told to me by my parents.
When they came to check on me in the morning, I was on the floor in a pool of my own vomit. I was asked how I was feeling and didn't respond. I didn't get up on my own, so they dragged me up and I was able to stand hunched over but couldn't get the energy or stability to walk. I vomited several times while standing still, and then fell over. This is when the two of them decided it was time. I had to be carried into the car and taken to the emergency ward at the local hospital. The ER staff asked me questions I wasn't able to answer correctly. I gave them my weight when they asked my name. I talked in a deep, gargled voice that was apparently an octave lower and barely comprehensible - so strange that the doctors asked my family if I normally sounded this way.

Apparently, I was extremely disruptive and confused. I was talking to the doctors about ordering car parts. I would pull out anything they tried attaching to me - the pads, the tubes, everything - and I would say "my bad" after each one, apologizing but repeatedly pulling them out anyway. The one memory I have, actually, was a brief burning pain when I yanked out my catheter and saw blood start to trickle down my leg. I heard a person saying "why'd you do that?" and I said "I don't know, I'm sorry".

My mother showed me a picture that has the EKG in it. My resting heart rate was 140bpm.​

Sunday January 29th

My memory picks back up again on Sunday at about 4 am. I was asked some questions as soon as I stirred. I was asked what my name was, and I got that one correct. Then I was asked what hospital I was in, which was a bit unfair because I didn't know most of their names to begin with. I looked around me - I was in a room with two tubes in my arm, a bunch of pads on my chest and legs, and a ton of red marks on my inner elbows from all the blood samples. From here I was alternating between sleep and then trying to understand my situation. I talked to the nurse and she said I have diabetes - more specifically, I had diabetic ketoacidosis from untreated type 1 diabetes. I asked her if she was really sure about it, desperate in my own mind for someone to say 'oops, misdiagnosis'.

The nurse shuffled through papers, and said that when I was admitted, my glucose level was 800 mg/dl and I was severely dehydrated. I told her about the thirst problems and she nodded. The whole day was just lying in my bed, eating bland hospital food when it was given to me. I began to accept my reality, as impossible as it seemed. I didn't quite know what it entailed, just that I'd have to make a lot of changes in my life. I just wanted to go back to work.​

Monday January 30th

I was told early in the morning that I'd likely be released by dinner, since my condition had improved so much. I was super happy to discover that my saliva was back, and my mouth felt so refreshingly wet. Later in the afternoon I was given a rundown on how to use my pens, some printouts on glucose and diet management, and then that was it. I was out, and into a new unknown world without anyone to talk to until the appointments started happening. There's no history of diabetes in my family and the closest link I have to a diabetic is a friend of a friend, and I still don't have anyone outside of clinic staff to confide in and share experiences with. I opened my cupboard, and everything looked like a box of poison.​

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The week after I got discharged was rough. Only two days after I left hospital, I went back - on the advice of this community, since my very first forum post was complaining that my glucose was above 30 all day. I got hooked up to a drip for a few hours and got told about the sliding scale for insulin. I was so weak that I couldn't even go up the stairs without feeling exhausted. I was stressed over the cost of the supplies and insulin - I had to spend $300 of my savings to get my first batch of everything, and I won't have any coverage until June. I was more stressed that I couldn't eat the things I used to but didn't know what I could eat safely. My vision also got pretty blurry for a week but that's mostly resolved itself - now my biggest challenges are getting my diet right and understanding my insulin. My family physician said my A1C was 12.4, so I must have had this going for a while under the hood, and it only came to peak when I started to go into DKA.
 

bobneil

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My focus for the future is learning. I've been in contact with a diabetic specialist and a dietician already, and an endocrinologist is next. I need to be able to explain to other people what I have and why it works the way it does. I never want to be in a situation where I'm unsure of what to do and have no access to resources and assistance. The diabetic specialist said there's a fitness trainer in the same building that also has T1D so him and I are going to discuss how to approach a return to fitness. I have, after all, lost 20 lbs since the week of thirst began - I'm now underweight and looking to gain whatever I can back. My relationship with my family has tightened a bit, too. They're concerned for me and I want them to be in on this so that they're never out of the loop.

What scares me most when I look long down the road is nerve problems. I've already had some times with tingly feet at home, though I was told that I'm very unlikely to have neuropathy this early.

It hasn't really sunk in for me yet is that this is with me forever. Every projected moment in my future now has a tag on it - I will be diabetic when my dad dies, I will be diabetic when I get my first car, I will be diabetic when I see an old friend, I will be diabetic when I go on a vacation to another country, I will be diabetic when I'm retired.

I can't shake the feeling that one day I'll return to depression as a result of this disease and all that comes with it, because I dealt with that 5 years ago and nothing since has been bad enough in life to bring it back. I hope I can hold it together, that I will always have a network of people to talk to about how ****** things will be, that I can deal with and minimize health problems as a result of diabetes, and that I'll accept having to carry supplies with me to every office, venue and expedition until the day I drop.

This is my life now - I'm either going to let diabetes control me, and wither away in complications, or control it and live a better life than I did before. I will try to keep my sugars in the normal range, sacrificing whatever I need to along the way. Thanks for reading.
 
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Hello @bobneil Thank you for taking the time to share your story, it's something all type 1's can relate to. There's a whole new world from diagnosis going forward, my advice is to not worry about the 'what if's' and to be honest who really knows for sure what could happen further on down the line. The trick in managing your type 1 is to stay on the tightrope and become an expert in doing so, thinking about the past and the future only adds weight to the mind, so live each day like it's your first, take on challenges, push yourself and don't let the knocks or set backs get you down. Living with type 1 has made me mentally stronger but also makes me realise the importance of living too, take care hun ;)
 

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but also makes me realise the importance of living too, take care hun ;)

Yeah, I was going to go the other way and say that while I do want to keep on top of everything, I don't want to regret missing out on things (specifically food!) down the road because I was uncertain of the consequences. Right now is a trial and error phase for me, especially with my mealtime insulin. I'm eating things alongside moderate, conservative estimate doses (based on the listed carbs and what my level is currently at) and then writing down the before/after numbers so I can be sure to get the proper dose next time. I have a rough idea of my carb ratio now, but I'm still not sure how to be certain of dosage when it comes to the lipids and fiber content. I've already sworn off certain things that bring me no value at all, such as soda, but I'm unwilling to let go of foods such as pancakes and will find ways to eat them without jeopardizing my levels.

I haven't seen the end of the so-called "honeymoon phase" where insulin production goes from bare minimum to nothing at all, and I'm not sure how that will go. Eventually I'll have a sick day, or days, when I'll have to use the handy PDF I got that tells me what to do to keep my levels under control. Later down the road, I don't know if I'll have health complications despite being on top of the disease.
You're right in saying that I shouldn't explicitly focus on what might happen, but instead being proactive about the now, because that will directly affect what I encounter in months, years, and decades to come.
 
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Eventually I'll have a sick day, or days, when I'll have to use the handy PDF I got that tells me what to do to keep my levels under control.

Hopefully you will rarely have need for this ;) Personally I don't have any time off sick, yes I have 'off' days but I did before being diagnosed but it doesn't stop me working.

Yes there is a steep learning curve with understanding food types/carbs and insulin doses but it does get so much easier in time, particularly if you eat the same foods most of the time, I tend to use spices to add variety to food and change flavours. I also have 'carbs and cals' downloaded as an app on my phone which is handy for doing quick calculations. It sounds like you're doing a brilliant job already recording your food intake and insulin doses with BG results, that's the best way to get to know your type 1 and see what works or doesn't for you. There's always people around on here if you're unsure of anything so keep us updated on your progress, best wishes :)
 
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Oh @bobneil Thanks for sharing your story. We've all been there and as @Juicyj says, it's a real steep learning curve.
Sounds to me like you're really taking the bull by the horns and are well on the way to controlling your diabetes well, rather than letting it control you. Don't let it win, I'm sure you're better/stronger than that.
This place is a great resource and full of advice and friendly 'faces'. Keep seeing your nurse and specialist, see if you can get on a carb counting course and keep testing/recording. Seeing patterns and getting to know YOUR diabetes is the key. All the best
 

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Your story sounds like mine. Just caught it right before I died. D stinks. No argument there but fluctuating bs makes me feel lousy. Not worth 'missing out ' on food. Yup. I love all food but it's just food. If I'm blind and have complications but can still eat my beloved food? No thanks. If I can still eat food I love and avoid complications I'll do it. Yup I've given up loads of food for my health. I wouldn't put a thing in my mouth that I don't like but I like most foods so I just choose those are are better for bs. We can pick fights with D but it always wins. No holidays there. I just stopped trying to fool it

Glad you're healthier !! I too lost loads of weight, couldn't get up the stairs, dress myself, get in or out of my car etc. 2 months on insulin and tables turned. I take learning how bad bs, low or high, is so hard on the body and can change our lives. I just chose to accept it, though I don't like it at all.
 

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@bobneil thank you for sharing ur story with us, honestly reading it scared me. I was very lucky, we found out about my diabetes by coincidence. Did a blood test to check hormones, they said that was ok but my BG is very high. 2 of my grandparents r diabetic, so we had a meter at home, we check everyones BG every once in a while. In august it was normal 5.6. When we got the blood test results it was around early december. So when we got home that day with the bloodtest results we checked my BG at home and it was 27 mmol/l. We called our doctor, she said go to hospital that or next day, its very important. In the hospital they said im in an esrly stage. I feel lucky that we noticed it before it got very serious.
 

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My diagnosis was awful too, but not quite as bad. I was 16 and in the middle of starting my GCSE's, when i became really tired and lack of concentration all the time. It was tiring to walk up the stairs. Throughout the summer holidays this continues, with a huge increase in thirst and going to the toilet. I woke up at least 4 times a night to pee. I then noticed i was losing weight, and lost 3 1/2 stone in a couple of months. The fruity, sticky smell started in my breath a few weeks before the doctors.
My gran then forced me to the doctors who thought it was just a virus. But then my blood sugar was tested and was 18.9. My ketones were also very high. I was rushed up to hospital in an ambulance and attached with drips everywhere. I was in HDU for 3 days and a normal ward for 3 days. The doctors said i was very lucky, as i was in DKA, but within the next week would have fallen into a coma.
 

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This was ne to I was only diagnosed new years day I was very ill new years eve fort I had flu. And my mum found me in a dka coma unresponsive. My blood sugar was 39! All I remember is waking up in intensive care 3 days later very scary. I now have damage to my kidneys from this.
 
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My focus for the future is learning. I've been in contact with a diabetic specialist and a dietician already, and an endocrinologist is next. I need to be able to explain to other people what I have and why it works the way it does. I never want to be in a situation where I'm unsure of what to do and have no access to resources and assistance. The diabetic specialist said there's a fitness trainer in the same building that also has T1D so him and I are going to discuss how to approach a return to fitness. I have, after all, lost 20 lbs since the week of thirst began - I'm now underweight and looking to gain whatever I can back. My relationship with my family has tightened a bit, too. They're concerned for me and I want them to be in on this so that they're never out of the loop.

What scares me most when I look long down the road is nerve problems. I've already had some times with tingly feet at home, though I was told that I'm very unlikely to have neuropathy this early.

It hasn't really sunk in for me yet is that this is with me forever. Every projected moment in my future now has a tag on it - I will be diabetic when my dad dies, I will be diabetic when I get my first car, I will be diabetic when I see an old friend, I will be diabetic when I go on a vacation to another country, I will be diabetic when I'm retired.

I can't shake the feeling that one day I'll return to depression as a result of this disease and all that comes with it, because I dealt with that 5 years ago and nothing since has been bad enough in life to bring it back. I hope I can hold it together, that I will always have a network of people to talk to about how ****** things will be, that I can deal with and minimize health problems as a result of diabetes, and that I'll accept having to carry supplies with me to every office, venue and expedition until the day I drop.

This is my life now - I'm either going to let diabetes control me, and wither away in complications, or control it and live a better life than I did before. I will try to keep my sugars in the normal range, sacrificing whatever I need to along the way. Thanks for reading.
Diabetes is not the end of everything you just need to plan a bit talk to dietitian about carb counting and if doing strenuous exercise e.g. long walk or sex you need carbs before and after to prevent hypo
 
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Excellent run down on your late diagnosis and how you felt and feel @bobneil - Pretty much the same thing happened to me but I was 4 years old at the time and ended up being hospitalized for a couple of months. You will figure it out and yes - you will probably screw up from time to time but now that you're on insulin you will also be able to take corrective action so you don't find yourself in the same predicament.
I just want to emphasize - although your lifestyle has or will significantly change - keep enjoying life. I go on wilderness canoe trips, I;m a rock climber, hell in my 40s I was a front man for a classic rock band and did a lot of touring - wasn't good for my diabetic condition but I did it any way.
Once your back in physical shape try to be as physically active as possible. In the 51 years I've lived with Type 1 the only times that I ran in to serious difficulties was when I was living a sedentary life.
The irony - it's probably because of my diabetes that I'm in as good of shape as I am. Many of my non diabetic friends have not aged well and can no longer keep up with me as they were not forced to lead a healthy lifestyle,
So get healthy, work with your Type 1 fitness instructor and try not to worry about the complications that are associated with diabetes because it may never happen to you - many diabetics go thru life only experiencing minimal complications or none at all
All the best!
 
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Indeed. I noticed my levels tanking really fast while walking yesterday, and I'm getting into strength training again eventually - that'll be fun. I'm going to try to stay on top.
The diabetes specialist told me that aside from higher risk for stroke and heart disease, it's entirely possible to avoid complications because there's quite a lot of diabetics that never go past 8.0 (I wish!)

My breakfast today was a banana smoothie (250ml milk, 2 tbsp yogurt, 1 large banana, 3 strawberries)
. Took 11 units to cover it, at a 1:3.5 carb ratio - my before was 7.8 and my after was 10.4, so... not bad, but maybe next time instead of 11U I'll try 13U.
 
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Bob, I enjoyed reading your detailed and very relatable description of your journey. Sounds a lot like my onset, almost two years ago. Blood sugar was above 800, like yours. Was so dehydrated I felt like my lips were turned inside out. All food in the hospital turned into paste in my mouth, but, oddly, my eyesight improved. I want to let you know there is a lot of hope in the immediate future for a cure for T1; as little as six years. Things are changing fast in this field. Your life will get better in the next few months. You'll learn a lot. You will not have to give up your lovely food. Today I ate garlic fries and See's chocolate candy! No spikes. Life is not over. You will find amazing strength.
 
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This was ne to I was only diagnosed new years day I was very ill new years eve fort I had flu. And my mum found me in a dka coma unresponsive. My blood sugar was 39! All I remember is waking up in intensive care 3 days later very scary. I now have damage to my kidneys from this.

Same with me, many years ago, several days in intensive care, remember nothing of first days, also kidney damage, but in 3 weeks this recovered, could not leave hospital till then - maybe, as it all happened only weeks ago for you, your kidneys could still recover?
 
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bobneil

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Bob, I enjoyed reading your detailed and very relatable description of your journey. Sounds a lot like my onset, almost two years ago. Blood sugar was above 800, like yours. Was so dehydrated I felt like my lips were turned inside out. All food in the hospital turned into paste in my mouth, but, oddly, my eyesight improved. I want to let you know there is a lot of hope in the immediate future for a cure for T1; as little as six years. Things are changing fast in this field. Your life will get better in the next few months. You'll learn a lot. You will not have to give up your lovely food. Today I ate garlic fries and See's chocolate candy! No spikes. Life is not over. You will find amazing strength.

I'm not going to waste optimism on a cure, but hey, it'd be nice if any progress would be made.

I am learning a lot each week and hopefully once I understand my levels more, and what sets off my spikes, I can go back to the occasional treat. Right now, my snack food is unsalted peanuts. They're perfect for computer work and don't add up to much.
 

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Hi, I am also a newly diagnosed type 1
And I was the same, drinking water like it was going out of fashion, couldn't keep food down, went from 9 and a half stone to just under 7 stone, eyes was so blurry, I have always been active, kickboxing 2-3 times a week, swimming once a week, my job is very active, I was always going toilet, sleepless nights, my family decided I should see a doctor, I did and he told me I have the flu and he will send me for a blood test in 3 days time ...... On the 31 of December 2016 I was struggling to breath and was dizzy And confused. My partner decided to call 999! I was waiting 45mins for them wen they did arrive I was upset as I couldn't breath, they checked my sugars and next thing I know I am in hospital ICU, I am terrified of needles and hospitals but I was so weak I didn't fight, this was my first time in hospital and I didn't have a clue what was what! When I woke up I had needles in my neck needles in both arms one in each wrist and a wee bag! I didn't know what the hell had happend they explained to my I had type 1 diabetes, and I was very close to going into a coma, as I was very poorly and had DKA!! I didn't know what diabetes was at first and especially DKA......, the nurse ad doctors was amazing and I can't thank them enough, I just got on with it and read up and saw doctors etc..... Then I hit a wall!! And was like wow I have this 24/7 everyday for the rest of y life!!! I just cried my partner had to help me with needles and I was so down I then started smoking and hated it!!! But now a year later I don't smoke I am now smoke free for 2weeks I do all my own injections, my sugars are a pain in the butt! Up and down gggrrrrr I still eat everything I had before even takeaway, as I was told I can eat everything but I have to add up carbs and inject, I try to stay away from cakes I have a odd one now and again I have Diet Coke, I make sure I get my veg, and try to stay active, it is crazy how I have this horrible thing! But I am not the only one as I have learned, I truly believe people with type 1 are like super heroes as we fight everyday 24/7 to keep ourself alive!!
I am still learning and always will be but you have to push and don't let it get you down ( easy to say I know) but it will get better, I never in a millions years through I would be able to inject myself but I have and it hurts and people stare but we all need to eat!

This is my story...... And it's now just. Part of me :)
Xx
 
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I too can relate to your story,my type 1 diabetic diagnosis was just before my 30th birthday, I too was thirsty all the time,peeing a lot,had blurred vision,my late mother who was type 1 diabetic(mythocondrial)adviced me to get a blood sugar test from lloyds pharmacy,my blood sugar levels were 38.4 and had to spend 10 days in hospital