1st trip to diabetic clinic

mickthered

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
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Other
had my first visit today and was expected to get loads of info

had my bloods taken and BS levels looked at on my meter and was asked a few questions

Doc seemed happy with how I was doing and also the weight loss was expected to be put on some kind of diet but was told just do as I'm doing by keeping off the sugary drinks sweets and cakes etc or at least eating them in moderation

It was then suggested I go onto Byetta anyone got any experiences of this
 

Daibell

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LADA
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Insulin
Hmm. In my opinion to suggest going onto Byetta before suggesting a proper diet is a bit daft. I suggest you go onto a proper low-carb diet. Daisy will be along shortly with links to info and dietary stuff. The carb portion sizes should be kept sensibly low and low-GI. If the diet doesn't bring your weight and sugars down, then do consider some meds, but normally the first med would be Metformin particularly if overweight, then possibly another tablet or two and finally one of the injectables such as Byetta. You will find info for Byetta users on this forum. Byetta is best for those who are a bit overweight. As I'm thin my GP said to skip Byetta and go onto insulin but I was already on 3 tablets.
 

daisy1

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Tablets (oral)
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Cruelty towards animals.
Hi Mick and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information which we give to new members, which Daibell mentioned, and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you need to as there is always someone who will come along and help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

mickthered

Active Member
Messages
35
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Other
Daibell said:
Hmm. In my opinion to suggest going onto Byetta before suggesting a proper diet is a bit daft. I suggest you go onto a proper low-carb diet. Daisy will be along shortly with links to info and dietary stuff. The carb portion sizes should be kept sensibly low and low-GI. If the diet doesn't bring your weight and sugars down, then do consider some meds, but normally the first med would be Metformin particularly if overweight, then possibly another tablet or two and finally one of the injectables such as Byetta. You will find info for Byetta users on this forum. Byetta is best for those who are a bit overweight. As I'm thin my GP said to skip Byetta and go onto insulin but I was already on 3 tablets.
been on a bit of a diet but only from the info I have read on here also been Metformin and Gliclazide since Jan when diagnosed and lost around 12 kilo

As this was my first visit was expecting some kind of diet sheet or something but the doc seemed happy with what I have been eating and told me to carry on the same as I'm loosing weight and my BS levels are good so he said I must be doing something right
 

Sierra

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Have to say that my first visit to the DSN nurse was last week and I was very unimpressed. Not only was I 'shushed' when I asked a question (she was brusque and obviously couldn't listen and type at the same time), but I got very little information. I left there very frustrated and thankful that I had done a lot of reading on the Diabetes.co.uk site and here. I'm still waiting for the referral to the diabetes clinic at the local hospital for their six-week clinic and for the referral to the foot doctor. Talked to the surgery today and was told that the referral was sent to the local hospital (seems that it would be more efficient and a lesser drain on resources if they actually gave me the referral and a number to call to set up a schedule rather than putting in time delays and additional layers of communication. Plus there was a pamphlet for the program that she held up in front of me and then when I went to take it, grabbed it aside and put it on the other side of her desk. Guess those pamphlets are worth their weight in gold too!

Still waiting to get the foot referral and to be contacted by the local hospital.

If this is how it goes, I am definitely in for a frustrating time for the rest of my life. :(

Any of you know how it's actually supposed to work since I have a difficult time believing that this is normal.

I'm on metformin twice a day and my blood sugar levels are still at around 11.2 - 12.7. So I've got another call into the doctor too about whether meds need increasing. Removed sugar and bad carbs from the diet - trying to keep those around 150g a day per doctor's recommendation. Good news is that I've lost another 7 pounds this week!

Just really frustrated.