5 days into T2

Jock vd Veld

Newbie
Messages
2
Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hi Everyone

I was diagnosed a week ago with T2 - it wasn't a total surprise that my body disliked my lifestyle! Good wake up call

Since I live in the Middle East, quality healthcare is a bit of a mystery, so getting through this is going to be all about common sense, this forum and a BS meter

Couple of questions.....

1. Metformin - does it take a period of time for it to work efficiently - been on it for 5 days after breakfast but my BS is still fairly variable (and I am following a sensible easting plan)

2. Salt - have terrible cravings and apart from the hypertension risk whats the risk with T2?

Cheers
Jock
 

jack412

Expert
Messages
5,618
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
ask dr but, normally metformin is started at one tablet and increased weekly, metformin normally takes 3 weeks to work and 3 mths for max effect.
if you have cut some carbs, you flush salt, and you probably not getting the junk food salt now too, if your BP is ok, it's fine and you should supplement salt.

take a few hours to read these sites, they helped me
http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf it’s a long page and a video

http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/lowcarbliving/a/Food-Cravings.htm For me, the more carbs we eat the more carbs we want. they don’t give up easy.

http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/lowcarb101/a/firstweek.htm

dietician lc plan

http://www.lowcarbdietitian.com/blog/carbohydrate-restriction-an-option-for-diabetes-management


blood testing

http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14045524.php

http://www.homehealth-uk.com/medical/blood_glucose_monitor_testing.htm

food counting

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/
 

daisy1

Legend
Messages
26,457
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Dislikes
Cruelty towards animals.
Hello Jock ( @Jock vd Veld ) and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask all the questions you like and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 100,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

douglas99

Well-Known Member
Messages
4,572
Type of diabetes
I reversed my Type 2
Treatment type
Other
Metformin takes a while to have an effect, but for the first few weeks your blood sugars are going to be changing anyway, as you're body is used to a higher than normal range, so you will see an effect from the meds and diet, but over weeks, not days, and depending on your results at diagnosis.

As to salt, I'm on a low GI/GL diet, and rarely needed to add salt to anything initially, I have good BP, and still don't add any salt to my food though.
You're in a different climate though, so without knowing anything about your previous diet, current diet, or current BP, it's hard to advise what to do, it could be you have just got used to it, or it could be you are in need of it.
Usually lack of salt shows as a physical condition, rather than a craving, so possibly not, but personally I'd check google for the effects of too little salt, and see if it fits you, and watch the BP as well
 

Daibell

Master
Messages
12,652
Type of diabetes
LADA
Treatment type
Insulin
Hi and welcome. Don't expect too much from Metformin as it only helps blood sugar by around 1 mmol. It's at it's best reducing insulin resistance if you are overweight. Diet remains the first line of attack for diabetes and that means low-carb. I'm not aware of any association between salt and diabetes
 

jinstone

Well-Known Member
Messages
51
Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Dislikes
Not being able to eat deserts :)
Needed an operation and took me 6 months to get down to acceptable levels on Metformin and Gliclazide. don't expect a miracle rush. Agree with others that diet is equally important. Never sure but I think my drop off in levels was as much about diet as medication.

Regards
Jeremy
 

Jock vd Veld

Newbie
Messages
2
Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Thanks everyone - your replies appreciated.

Sure I will be back with more questions

Cheers
Jock