Pasta (even a portion that I think is pretty small and safe...) will always make me go into double numbers.Really? It should be higher than that? I really need to find a dietician or diet plan
That’s great you saw it come down again, that’s a great post meal reading, I’d be happy with that! May be the fat in the cake and ice Cream? Liver dump helped?Thank you everyone. I have just done anothet blood test (two hours after my cake and 500ml ice-cream tub) astonishingly, my blood level is 6.6? How is this?
Actually anything over 7.8 can be causing damage so minimising the time you spend over this level makes a great deal of sense. Maybe as a one off it’s not so bad but repeatedly going to these numbers after meals all adds up. 2 hrs after meals shouldn’t still be this high and aren’t normal. If they are typical for you you are eating the wrong things as a type 2 or perhaps not balancing your eating and medication as a type 1. In the background it will also be making insulin even higher in a type 2 adding to insulin resistance thus making the whole problem even worse.10.9 isnt too much to worry about in the short term, i wouldnt say it wa stoo high a couple of hours after eating something like paste, id suggest testing again in another hour or so, it will likely come down naturally, readings like 10.9 arent dangerously high in the short term and are to be expected in the hours after eating, even a non diabetic can have spikes a couple of hours after eating something like pasta
Actually anything over 7.8 can be causing damage so minimising the time you spend over this level makes a great deal of sense. Maybe as a one off it’s not so bad but repeatedly going to these numbers after meals all adds up. 2 hrs after meals shouldn’t still be this high and aren’t normal. If they are typical for you you are eating the wrong things as a type 2 or perhaps not balancing your eating and medication as a type 1. In the background it will also be making insulin even higher in a type 2 adding to insulin resistance thus making the whole problem even worse.
No, if it’s my link you refer to it says if you are over 11 at 2 hrs post prandial or at a random time (ie at any point in time) you are diabetic. It also says regardless of type the absolute highest anyone should aim for post prandial is 9mmol with under 7.8 considered a normal reaction. Yes it may continue to drop after that time but that increases your time above a safe level, therefore increases risk of complications long term. Type 2 , as the original poster is, does not have the option to dose with insulin, nor should they want to, as type 2 already have overly high levels of insulin but are resistant to it. Adding more just adds to the resistanceAnother link on the same web page (it wont let me post a direct link but look for the Diabetes-and-Hyperglycaemia page) also defines hyperglycemia as being above 11 two hours after meal time which is why i said 10.9 isnt too much to worry about after having a high carb meal, if type 1, i'd suggest waiting another hour or so and checking again, then correct with more insulin if required, i've had readings similar to this in the past but an hour later its returned to a normal level without a correction
It’s because you are new t9 the forum. Post a few more times and the restrictions are lifted. It’s an anti spamming precaution.it wont let me post a direct link
10.9 isnt too much to worry about in the short term, i wouldnt say it wa stoo high a couple of hours after eating something like paste, id suggest testing again in another hour or so, it will likely come down naturally, readings like 10.9 arent dangerously high in the short term and are to be expected in the hours after eating, even a non diabetic can have spikes a couple of hours after eating something like pasta
Hugely. I am not a big pasta lover but have really tried to start eating more when I go on the bike or play footballI’m type 1 and have to injec,t nearly 2 hours after I’ve eaten spag bog , it’s notorious for raising bs being type 1 I can easily remedy it but it’s far more difficult if your type 2 I should imagine , I also find results from eating pasta can Vary from day to day.
Hello @sugarfreevanillapudding ,My understanding is that honey is just the same as sugar, whether natural or not. For ice cream, I buy the no-sugar added, to me it as just as good, and sometimes I have no sugar added syrups on it, such as butterscotch. However the Hershey's seemed bitter when I tried it. Also, is it okay to eat a whole-grain pasta? How much better is that for you than regular? I was shocked because I went from pre-diabetes, to normal, then found out on my most recent blood test that I am full-diabetic, and was on the previous test also - as I had been disabled and getting back to work, I had the govt ****** clinic insurance. It should be mandatory that if something is serious that they double check that they have reached the patient and they know the results. The good news is that I am 61, hope to not use insulin if possible, and change this by diet if possible. It explains why I keep wanting to go back to bed if I don't HAVE to stay up -
The bulk of us here are going against the grain. I was told not to test, as were many others here. Then there are those who should test, but only upon waking or before a meal, which tells you exactly nothing, if you're trying to get your blood sugars under proper control through diet or medication. You need to test to know what works for you, and what doesn't. But if they say you should test, then they have to pay for it.... And that would basically bankrupt the NHS, which is a bit, you know... Not good. I self-fund, getting only 40 euro's worth of test strips per year through my insurance, but after a lot of testing in the beginning, I know what eggs'll do, or a bit of salmon with veg. No need to check. I just use strips now to see what I'm up to when I have Covid (just getting over yet another bout of it, *sigh*. But topped out at 8,9 mmol/l, which I guess is pretty good, considering!), or got a steroid shot or something. In the end, all they can do is advise. If you want to test, no-one's going to slap the meter out of your hands, no-one can stop you if it's what you want to do. You do have a choice here. You can do what I did, and test your heart out. You can do what the nurse tells you, which is decidedly cheaper in the short term. You can....? It's entirely up to you. And if something doesn't sit right with you, go with your gut, and if possible, your meter.View attachment 63510
Reading the posts in here I’m totally confused now.
Here is the advice I was given by the diabetes nurse specialist as they found out I was a steroid induced type 2 diabetic.
Nothing about after food just on waking and before my evening meal.
It’s make absolute sense to me to do it x hours after food but is their a definitive answer as what officially the reading limits are to be please!
Btw learnt much in here I am very grateful for so please excuse so ‘Beginner questions” at times.
Kind regards, JoMar
The bulk of us here are going against the grain. I was told not to test, as were many others here. Then there are those who should test, but only upon waking or before a meal, which tells you exactly nothing, if you're trying to get your blood sugars under proper control through diet or medication. You need to test to know what works for you, and what doesn't. But if they say you should test, then they have to pay for it.... And that would basically bankrupt the NHS, which is a bit, you know... Not good. I self-fund, getting only 40 euro's worth of test strips per year through my insurance, but after a lot of testing in the beginning, I know what eggs'll do, or a bit of salmon with veg. No need to check. I just use strips now to see what I'm up to when I have Covid (just getting over yet another bout of it, *sigh*. But topped out at 8,9 mmol/l, which I guess is pretty good, considering!), or got a steroid shot or something. In the end, all they can do is advise. If you want to test, no-one's going to slap the meter out of your hands, no-one can stop you if it's what you want to do. You do have a choice here. You can do what I did, and test your heart out. You can do what the nurse tells you, which is decidedly cheaper in the short term. You can....? It's entirely up to you. And if something doesn't sit right with you, go with your gut, and if possible, your meter.
As for the meal advice on there, a fruity salad would mess me up no end... So between the printed and the hand written advice, I'm not seeing a whole lot that'd actually be helpful to you. My doc tells me I can have birthdaycake though... I love her to bits, I really do, but diabetes is not her forte. So I just do what has worked for me these past 7 years, and has kept me in the normal range. It might mean doing something entirely different for you though: we're all different and there's no real one-size-fits-all.
As for ranges, I got these off https://www.diabetes.co.uk/controlling-type2-diabetes.html , but keep in mind they're not that rigid... Blood sugars fluctuate, and you don't have to get everything back to perfect immediately. It takes a little time.
Good luck!
- 4 to 7 mmol/l before meals and when fasting
- 4 to 8.5 mmol/l 2 hours following meals
Jo
The testing after a meal does kind of need to be done with testing just before it. In pairs. It shows you how much the food you just ate affected your levels. If you don’t test before you won’t know how much it raised you by.I think I’ll test 1st thing on waking and 2 hours after either lunch or evening meal!
Testing around meals simply won't tell you much unless you have a before-and-after set of results. You're using the blood glucose level figures to inform you how well your system dealt with what you ate.Again you come to my rescue, thank you again.
My test strips & lancets are on repeat prescription for free (I am a tad, no that’s not trueI am a long way passed 65
I will try the regime you suggest as it makes sense to me!
They kindly have given me for free a spare test kit to keep on me when I am away from home.
Again, kind regards & thank you, JoMar)
Ps my dietary advice not “normal” as this was from the Crohns dietician (she works hand in hand with the hospital diabetes dietician).
I think I’ll test 1st thing on waking and 2 hours after either lunch or evening meal!
Testing around meals simply won't tell you much unless you have a before-and-after set of results. You're using the blood glucose level figures to inform you how well your system dealt with what you ate.
If you eat carbs as part of a meal, it will trigger a rise in blood glucose. That happens to everyone, diabetics and non-diabetics. Non-diabetics typically see lower rises and faster falls because of a better insulin response, because they don't have insulin resistance.
So - your blood glucose level will rise during the first hour or so. The BG level should then start to fall as your insulin gets to work and the idea is that after two hours your insulin response has been such that you're back at, or fairly close to, the baseline reading.
Example - A single small latte will take me from a baseline of 5.4 to around 8.6 after 30 minutes. That's caused just by the lactose in the milk, no sugar involved. However by one hour I'll be back below 6.0 and back to baseline (5.3) by around 90 minutes. The meter information (taken from a CGM) therefore confirms that at present my system can deal properly with a single small latte. It's the first and last readings that tell you that. What happens in between isn't so essential to know.
The rice crispies were responsible. All cereals are grains and they are usually around two thirds carbs. Not the thing a type 2 needs. Try non grain based breakfasts. Eggs, bacon, last nights leftovers, porridge or granola made from non grain items. If you do a search on breakfasts you’ll get loads of threads with options and discussions on the subject.Not fixed my diet yet obviously…
Took reading before breakfast and was 5.3
2 hours later was at 7.9
I cup of rice crispies with almond milk (no sugars variety) xylitol sweetener
1 cup of tea with same almond milk and a sweetener.
Any suggestions please and are readings acceptable pls!
Oh I took 1 500mg metfirmin and 1 40mg gliz…. Immediately after breakfast.
Many thanks, JoMar
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