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I actually read on this forum that it was low carb. Granted it was from a long time ago so may have been incorrect information.Be careful with Donner meat it definitely isn’t low carb - how do you think they get it to stick together? Lots of grains and flours.
Looking at getting a meter soon. Once I've researched more about levels and what to expect. I don't even know my results from the doctors yet so a meter wouldn't really serve a useful purpose until I know where I'm coming from.It depends on the quality, I wouldn’t rely on it blindly, but this is why your meter and testing is invaluable,
testing foods to see what it does to our personal BG is the way to go, just because one person can eat it doesn’t mean others can, of course that applies in reverse too! So try it and test right before and 2 hours after first bite and if it’s within the range you’re happy with then it’s on your menu. I would say that as doner meat is very fatty this may slow down your rise so I personally would test at 3 hrs too just to make sure I’m definitely on the way down and not on the slow rise up
I'm eating whatever doesn't leave my BG monitor having an attack of the vapours two hours after a meal, and testing the same at least three times just to be on the safe side.Due to the fact I'm going very low carb to
A. Lose weight &
B. Get my sugar levels under control
I'm reading the nutritional information on everything in my cupboards and in the supermarket. If it has any significant amount of carbs I simply don't use it. I have no idea what will affect me and what won't yet so the safest option is to abstain as much as possible. Gravy granules stated a significant amount of carbs so I assumed it was not good.
On another note:
I've just read elsewhere on the forum that donner kebab meat and chicken kebab meat are both carb free. Please tell me that hot chilli is also carb free!!
I'd be inclined to get a meter ASAP; the doctor's results will be informative, but with a diagnosis of diabetes the main thing is to get on top of what you can eat without any spikes and whatever foods are the equivalent of BG dynamite for you. There's plenty of information on this site about the BG readings T2s should be aiming for.Looking at getting a meter soon. Once I've researched more about levels and what to expect. I don't even know my results from the doctors yet so a meter wouldn't really serve a useful purpose until I know where I'm coming from.
There is obviously much more for me to learn. I have read about certain sugar free treats such as some wafer biscuits from Sainsbury's. The nutritional information states 60g carbs and 0.5g sugar. That now confuses the hell out of me. Not that it's the type of thing I would have but are they good or bad for diabetics??
This is definitely a massive learning curve
If you post a pic of the nutrients label of that product, or a link to them on a supermarket Web site that would help us answer your question, please?There is obviously much more for me to learn. I have read about certain sugar free treats such as some wafer biscuits from Sainsbury's. The nutritional information states 60g carbs and 0.5g sugar. That now confuses the hell out of me. Not that it's the type of thing I would have but are they good or bad for diabetics??
Well it's not really something I'm interested in anyway. It was something my daughter found and suggested it. It's not something that appeals to me anyway.If you post a pic of the nutrients label of that product, or a link to them on a supermarket Web site that would help us answer your question, please?
No added sugar can still be high carb!
Since you don’t list what type of diabetes you have….I guess you don’t take insulin. Right? Those with T1 don’t necessarily follow a highly restrictive low carb diet. There are other options. I’d discuss it with your doctor or health care professional. There are a lot of delicious foods that fit well into meeting nutritional needs and weight loss. Good luck!Well it's not really something I'm interested in anyway. It was something my daughter found and suggested it. It's not something that appeals to me anyway.
If I come across it again I'll post a picture
The only reason I didn't list is because at the time of registering I didn't know. I had no idea what the doctor was going to tell me. I have no idea if I can edit my profile, I haven't found a way to on my phone yet.Since you don’t list what type of diabetes you have….I guess you don’t take insulin. Right? Those with T1 don’t necessarily follow a highly restrictive low carb diet. There are other options. I’d discuss it with your doctor or health care professional. There are a lot of delicious foods that fit well into meeting nutritional needs and weight loss. Good luck!
So in my introduction I admitted to being a bit of a fussy eater. There are plenty of things I can eat that won't cause me problems but there are other foods that I'm not sure I can find alternatives to.
For example, breakfast cereals. I like a variety of them, some which I believe are ok for me such as shredded wheat but without a sprinkle of sugar they don't taste good. Fruit with breakfast cereals isn't an option because I just don't like them. I picked up some alternative to sugar which I've read is fine for diabetics, Stevia granuals but the milk just tasted bitter to me with that stuff. It's really not nice stuff.
Is a sprinkle of sugar or a spoon of sugar in my coffee (only one or two cups per day) a problem? Obviously without testing it's impossible to say but from others experience will this be fine or should I keep looking for an alternative?
I do like fish but struggle to find foods to make a meal out of it. Yesterday I cracked open a tin of tuna, added a bit of pepper and vinegar and grabbed a fork!! It'll get boring pretty quickly that way though so I need to think of something to go with it. As I admitted in my introduction, me and salad stuff don't see eye to eye! I'd love to empty a tin over a bed of lettuce with tomato's etc but I cannot stand the taste! Love the look of a salad on my plate but it just tastes bitter and nasty to me.
My diet previously consisted largely of bread, pasta and potatoes. I'd have either sandwiches, toast or similar (white bread btw) Pasta dishes such as lasagne, spaghetti Bolognese etc or casseroles with potatoes in them or something with chips or jacket potatoes etc.
I've been searching the supermarkets looking for alternatives but I have absolutely no clue what to look for. Being a non fruit, non veg, non salad eating diabetic is not easy, everything seems to have added sugar or high carbs.
I know 2 days isn't long to get used to the changes but I feel with the lack of variety in my diet I am going to struggle to find meals that are suitable.
Sorry for the long rant but I'm feeling quite defeated already.
Click on your name at the top right at the top right of this page, scroll down to Account Details and further down that page you'll see 'Type of diabetes'.The only reason I didn't list is because at the time of registering I didn't know. I had no idea what the doctor was going to tell me. I have no idea if I can edit my profile, I haven't found a way to on my phone yet.
It is type 2 diabetes though and no I don't take insulin. I have been prescribed metformin for now and told to change my diet and get more exercise.
A meter is useful from day one. It gives you a different set of information from the HbA1c. What a meter (either a fingerprick glucometer or a CGM) does is tell you what's happening right now, so you can use it to see how well you deal with various foods. As others have said, with a fingerprick meter you test before eating to establish a baseline, and then test again at the two hour point. The CGM is essentially constantly recording, so you get the same info.Looking at getting a meter soon. Once I've researched more about levels and what to expect. I don't even know my results from the doctors yet so a meter wouldn't really serve a useful purpose until I know where I'm coming from.
There is obviously much more for me to learn. I have read about certain sugar free treats such as some wafer biscuits from Sainsbury's. The nutritional information states 60g carbs and 0.5g sugar. That now confuses the hell out of me. Not that it's the type of thing I would have but are they good or bad for diabetics??
This is definitely a massive learning curve
whilst I agree with intermittent fasting I’d not suggest this from the starting gate, it’s often just too much too fast for the mind and emotions to keep up with let alone the physical effects including the potential effect on eyes if the drop in bgl is big and fast enough. It’s enough to switch to low carb foods in the early days. Once you’ve got to grips with that reduced feeding events (less snacking/fewer meals) often happen naturally and easily due to the more filling nature of the foods. And even if it’s a deliberate choice it’s so much easier once you’ve got used to having the more filling meals when you do eat.Hi @retrogamer welcome to the forum. In addition to what has been said before, you might consider intermittent fasting. I and many others successfully lost weight by this method. I did 5+2, i.e. only ate 600 calories 2 days a week. This means very few carbs, mainly vegetables, e.g. as curries or stew, soup, salads, a bit of chicken or fish, one egg, a measured helping of greek or natural yogurt, half an apple, ... and a bottle of tap water for lunch. The amazing thing was that I never felt hungry and the pounds more or less melted off. You can eat lots of veggies and soup, which is filling. Losing weight usually correlates with better blood sugar values and has many other benefits. best wishes on your journey
Did you increase the other elements on your plates enough? Or is it the physically being bulked out sensation you’re missing?My evening meal yesterday left me feeling a little underfed as it didn't contain the usual bulk of bread, potatoes or pasta (I've sometimes had all three in one meal!!!!) But I haven't woken up this morning feeling like I'm starving so hopefully it's a good sign that it was satisfying enough to keep me going.
Fat burning effectively actually takes longer ( a few weeks) than reaching just ketosis. The longer you’ve been in ketosis the quicker you can switch back and forth between glucose and fat burning. I guess it’s training your body to be efficiently dual fuel rather than just forcing it into it. Also the 20g thing is a guaranteed level rather than absolute. Many people reach ketosis up to 50g a day, a few even a bit higher especially if they are very active. Other wise you give great advice about the stepping it down and the electrolytes if diet isn’t providing enough. I personally didn’t need them but some do, especially in the early weeks whilst you might be adjusting. It’s rarely a long term issue though.Secondly to get into Ketosis (fat burning mode) you ideally need to be eating no more than 20g carbohydrates for 3-4 days in a row. This is hard if you've not been used to restricting your carbs, so what I did is work down to it, starting with eating 100g carbs and reducing that amount by 10g every 2-3 days until you hit the 20g mark. Please be aware that this will have an impact on your energy levels, until you achieve ketosis, and even then you will need to supplement your electrolytes (sodium/magnesium/potassium) as you will be losing those when you pee. There are a number of good keto electrolyte solutions available online, just check the carb numbers on the packaging as some can be quite high.
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