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[Flair]

Hi

I noticed that my sugar is okay at 1 hour like 6.6 and stil okay at 2 hours 7.3 but then.at 3 hours its 7.9?

What does it mean. If I only checked at 2 hours I would think it okay to eat?
Is it not meant to go down at 2 hours?
And why would it be okay at 1 and 2 hours can I eat that food do not no what to conclued?

I want to stay under 7.8 after 2 hours.

 

[Boo1979]

All of those readings are ok. Meters will vary by up to 10-15% in the reading they give simply beacause of the their tolerance limits

 

[Flair]

But why is it not back at 5 like before eating?what does it mean?

 

[Brunneria]

a great deal may depend on what the food was.

I usually eat very low carb and i have noticed that carbs (potato or bread or rice etc) will spike my blood glucose within an hour or so.
While a protein and veg meal (no carbs) will give me a much lower longer rise, often not peaking for 2-3 hours.
Adding in fat and fibre can slow things down even more.

 

[Jlewis]

No ones blood sugar is going to drop much lower 2 hours after eating. You eat it goes up it goes down over time maybe 4 hours I'm no expert but that's just how it is. Especially if you're just sitting around. Sorry but you won't be getting much sympathy on here with those levels people have things a lot worse than that. No it's not meant to go down after 2 hours the energy is still going through your body. Honestly I wouldn't even think to check them 2 hours after eating. Most check it before each meal which can be about 5 hours apart. It's not about what they are every second of the day it's about keeping generally under control. If you eat at 3 in the afternoon and they're 7 and you check them 6 hours later and they're 6.5 then that's good. Maybe it does go up and down but as long as it's in control generally it's not a big deal. Ive been told as long as I don't go over 10 I won't need meds so you're well away from that range

 

[Boo1979]

But why is it not back at 5 like before eating?what does it mean?

If youre aiming to be back at starting level, then that food has too many carbs so you need to reduce portion size or exclude the food to achieve the level you want
BUT your profile says that do not have diabetes and even for diabetics, your results would be within target range

 

[Flair]

If youre aiming to be back at starting level, then that food has too many carbs so you need to reduce portion size or exclude the food to achieve the level you want
BUT your profile says that do not have diabetes and even for diabetics, your results would be within target range

I am insulin resistance and want to keep my bloodsugar under 7.8 after 2 hours.

 

[Flair]

No ones blood sugar is going to drop much lower 2 hours after eating. You eat it goes up it goes down over time maybe 4 hours I'm no expert but that's just how it is. Especially if you're just sitting around. Sorry but you won't be getting much sympathy on here with those levels people have things a lot worse than that. No it's not meant to go down after 2 hours the energy is still going through your body. Honestly I wouldn't even think to check them 2 hours after eating. Most check it before each meal which can be about 5 hours apart. It's not about what they are every second of the day it's about keeping generally under control. If you eat at 3 in the afternoon and they're 7 and you check them 6 hours later and they're 6.5 then that's good. Maybe it does go up and down but as long as it's in control generally it's not a big deal. Ive been told as long as I don't go over 10 I won't need meds so you're well away from that range

Why should I not check after 2 hours? I am not diabetic but insulin resistance and want not to get diabetic. That why I check my bloodsugar after 2 hours.

 

[Brunneria]

No ones blood sugar is going to drop much lower 2 hours after eating. You eat it goes up it goes down over time maybe 4 hours I'm no expert but that's just how it is. Especially if you're just sitting around. Sorry but you won't be getting much sympathy on here with those levels people have things a lot worse than that. No it's not meant to go down after 2 hours the energy is still going through your body. Honestly I wouldn't even think to check them 2 hours after eating. Most check it before each meal which can be about 5 hours apart. It's not about what they are every second of the day it's about keeping generally under control. If you eat at 3 in the afternoon and they're 7 and you check them 6 hours later and they're 6.5 then that's good. Maybe it does go up and down but as long as it's in control generally it's not a big deal. Ive been told as long as I don't go over 10 I won't need meds so you're well away from that range

Hi,

It looks like you and Flair are talking about very different sets of circumstances.
I believe (please correct me if I am wrong) that you have talked in other posts about having a working knowledge of T1 diabetes? In which case, depending on insulin usage, and blood glucose targets, the comments you make are completely appropriate.

However, Flair is in a different situation, as a pre-Type 2 diabetic, where it is likely that the thing pushing up blood glucose levels is insulin resistance. As a result, checking blood glucose before meals and then 2 hours afterwards will give a lot of very valuable information on how Flair's body is coping with carb intake in that meal. Some T2s (and pre-T2s) also choose to test at 1 and 3 hours.

A healthy non-diabetic without insulin resistance may well have almost no blood glucose rise after eating (my husband can eat absurd amounts of carbs and never go above 6.6mmol/l at any point). Others are not so lucky. But many of us with non T1-type glucose intolerance tailor our carb intake to prevent rises, in order to reduce generating insulin resistance, since it can be an escalating problem, leading to T2.

As with nearly everything, advice on this, and perspectives on what is 'normal' varies widely between health care professionals and the educated layman, but we all have to make judgement calls somewhere along the line... I go the testing route myself, and try not to raise my bg by more than 2mmol/l after food. Being human, I don't always achieve this! Although i did today

 

[Flair]

Hi,

It looks like you and Flair are talking about very different sets of circumstances.
I believe (please correct me if I am wrong) that you have talked in other posts about having a working knowledge of T1 diabetes? In which case, depending on insulin usage, and blood glucose targets, the comments you make are completely appropriate.

However, Flair is in a different situation, as a pre-Type 2 diabetic, where it is likely that the thing pushing up blood glucose levels is insulin resistance. As a result, checking blood glucose before meals and then 2 hours afterwards will give a lot of very valuable information on how Flair's body is coping with carb intake in that meal. Some T2s (and pre-T2s) also choose to test at 1 and 3 hours.

A healthy non-diabetic without insulin resistance may well have almost no blood glucose rise after eating (my husband can eat absurd amounts of carbs and never go above 6.6mmol/l at any point). Others are not so lucky. But many of us with non T1-type glucose intolerance tailor our carb intake to prevent rises, in order to reduce generating insulin resistance, since it can be an escalating problem, leading to T2.

As with nearly everything, advice on this, and perspectives on what is 'normal' varies widely between health care professionals and the educated layman, but we all have to make judgement calls somewhere along the line... I go the testing route myself, and try not to raise my bg by more than 2mmol/l after food. Being human, I don't always achieve this! Although i did today

You try not to rise 2 point then before your meal you mean? So you test before and after? What are those numbers most times?

 

[Brunneria]

You try not to rise 2 point then before your meal you mean? So you test before and after? What are those numbers most times?

i prefer to be in the 4-7 range, so if i start at 5 before food, i would hopefully not be above 7 at two hours after the food.

BUT it is very important to appreciate that if any of us start comparing our numbers with other people, then we are setting ourselves up for unnecessary stress and disappointment.

You are pre-D, and I have Reactive Hypoglycaemia - so our motivations and goals are different from the start. Then we will be different ages, weights, fitness and activity and stress levels, different hormone things going on. Comparison is hopeless, and will probably set you up for more worrying.

In addition, if you are Pre-D you are starting all this at a much earlier stage of glucose intolerance than I am at - so you will probably be able to enjoy much greater flexibility than I can - which is a good thing

 

[Bluetit1802]

I am insulin resistance and want to keep my bloodsugar under 7.8 after 2 hours.

And that is a very admirable aim, and in my opinion, a good one. You are insulin resistant, so cannot expect your insulin to clear all the excess glucose that is in your blood stream quickly after eating carbs. The insulin resistance prevents this. The best idea is to reduce the amount of glucose so there is less to clear, and this can be achieved by reducing the carbs.

Also, depending on the combination of carbs and fats in the meal, the peak may well be anywhere between about an hour and 3 or more hours before it starts to come down significantly. Testing just at 2 hours only gives you a figure, it doesn't give you your peak.

 

[Kristin251]

No ones blood sugar is going to drop much lower 2 hours after eating. You eat it goes up it goes down over time maybe 4 hours I'm no expert but that's just how it is. Especially if you're just sitting around. Sorry but you won't be getting much sympathy on here with those levels people have things a lot worse than that. No it's not meant to go down after 2 hours the energy is still going through your body. Honestly I wouldn't even think to check them 2 hours after eating. Most check it before each meal which can be about 5 hours apart. It's not about what they are every second of the day it's about keeping generally under control. If you eat at 3 in the afternoon and they're 7 and you check them 6 hours later and they're 6.5 then that's good. Maybe it does go up and down but as long as it's in control generally it's not a big deal. Ive been told as long as I don't go over 10 I won't need meds so you're well away from that range

Just testing before a meal doesn’t even come close to the whole picture.
And being insulin resistant means cutting carbs and monitoring meals relevant. Though we can’t rest out insulin resistant like we can bs, it sure makes sense to monitor our bg levels. The higher and longer we stay up might mean we should rethink that meal, not just chalk it up to easy come easy go if we’re tryimg to prevent diabetes and become more insulin sensative

 

[winglets]

Hi

I noticed that my sugar is okay at 1 hour like 6.6 and stil okay at 2 hours 7.3 but then.at 3 hours its 7.9?

What does it mean. If I only checked at 2 hours I would think it okay to eat?
Is it not meant to go down at 2 hours?
And why would it be okay at 1 and 2 hours can I eat that food do not no what to conclued?

I want to stay under 7.8 after 2 hours.

Hi Flair, can you tell us exactly what you ate here??

 

[Kristin251]

Hi

I noticed that my sugar is okay at 1 hour like 6.6 and stil okay at 2 hours 7.3 but then.at 3 hours its 7.9?

What does it mean. If I only checked at 2 hours I would think it okay to eat?
Is it not meant to go down at 2 hours?
And why would it be okay at 1 and 2 hours can I eat that food do not no what to conclued?

I want to stay under 7.8 after 2 hours.

Was it a very high fat meal? In MY opinion those numbers are still on the high end. Do you have any idea how many carbs you’re eating per day?

 

[Flair]

Just testing before a meal doesn’t even come close to the whole picture.
And being insulin resistant means cutting carbs and monitoring meals relevant. Though we can’t rest out insulin resistant like we can bs, it sure makes sense to monitor our bg levels. The higher and longer we stay up might mean we should rethink that meal, not just chalk it up to easy come easy go if we’re tryimg to prevent diabetes and become more insulin sensative

So if I stay 7.8 at 2 hours and 7.4 at 3 is that meaning I am saying to long high? Should I be back at 5 or 6 after 3 hours?

 

[Flair]

And that is a very admirable aim, and in my opinion, a good one. You are insulin resistant, so cannot expect your insulin to clear all the excess glucose that is in your blood stream quickly after eating carbs. The insulin resistance prevents this. The best idea is to reduce the amount of glucose so there is less to clear, and this can be achieved by reducing the carbs.

Also, depending on the combination of carbs and fats in the meal, the peak may well be anywhere between about an hour and 3 or more hours before it starts to come down significantly. Testing just at 2 hours only gives you a figure, it doesn't give you your peak.

If testing at 2 gives me a figure and not the peak. Why test? What is the point. And why do you frist say that testing 7m8 after 2 hours is a admirable aim? I am confused. Can you maybe explain.

 

[Flair]

Hi Flair, can you tell us exactly what you ate here??

I think it was a high carb meal. Meat with fries something like that? And one time it was beans with Spelt rice.

 

[Flair]

Was it a very high fat meal? In MY opinion those numbers are still on the high end. Do you have any idea how many carbs you’re eating per day?

No I don t count carbs I stopped the low carb diet as that was not working. I eat the slow good carbs which are good for bloodsugar.
I do intermitting fasting eat only twice and eat more vegan but whole foods and not much meat. Lentils chickenpeas a lot of veggies etc. Why do you ask about the fat will it cause a long spike? I thought fat was good.

Should I eat it or not ? If it's 7.8 at 2 and stil not back at 3 hours. And again this makes.it difficult to know because then I must test at 2 and 3 wich make it complicated.

 

[Bluetit1802]

If testing at 2 gives me a figure and not the peak. Why test? What is the point. And why do you frist say that testing 7m8 after 2 hours is a admirable aim? I am confused. Can you maybe explain.

The guidelines are to test at 2 hours as that is the only time we have guideline targets for. If you want to catch the peak you have to also test at an hour or 90 minutes, and then half hourly after the 2 hour mark. It is very difficult to catch peaks because each one will occur at a different time depending on what you have just eaten - not just carbs but also fats.

A level of 7.8 is fairly meaningless on its own without knowing what you are before you started. It is the actual rise from before to after that is important, and this should rarely be more than 2mmol/ and preferably a lot less. It is these spikes that cause the damage, and the longer you are spiking the more you are risking damage.

I do intermitting fasting eat only twice and eat more vegan but whole foods and not much meat. Lentils chickenpeas a lot of veggies etc. Why do you ask about the fat will it cause a long spike? I thought fat was good.

I don't understand what you are saying about your diet. Even if you are eating the "slow good carbs" you say you eat they still need to be restricted in portion size. - all carbs raise blood sugar levels even the "slow good ones".

Yet you say you had meat and fries? Are you keeping a food diary? I believe you need to do this. I believe you need to write down everything you eat and drink at each meal. If the drink is tea with milk, then include the milk. If you have any sauces or gravy, then add that. Every ingredient of the meal - and approximate portion sizes. Then write down your before and after levels for each meal alongside the food and analyse the results - look for patterns. There will be patterns after a period of time, which will show you if some of your food choices are bad choices.

Fats won't cause a spike, but what they do is slow down spikes caused by carbs - this means the spikes will be lower but longer lasting.