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sandysan

sandysan

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IM STRUGGLING A LOT ITS ALL NOT SINKING IN MY HEAD ,im trying to hard , thats its maing me depressed ,i havent eaten today because there is only fat food in my cuypboard , i seem to be trying to stay on low carbs and some GI food like wholemeal bread , and porridge ,, im scared to eat , sausage, bacon , ect , incase i put on weight , im getting so frustrated , im 17st in weight , people tell me to eat GI food but its also fat , i might be totally wrong and i dont know where to go for some help . the doctors are useless.
im getting to the stage im frightened to eat

type 2 diabetic 2 weeks into it diet controlled hmmm well
 
Re: HOW CAN ONE EAT SAUSAGE ,BACON,ECT IF THERE 17ST IN WEIG

You should ask to see a dietitian they help alot they make plans out and help yoy count food out x

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Re: HOW CAN ONE EAT SAUSAGE ,BACON,ECT IF THERE 17ST IN WEIG

If you go very low carb then fatty food shouldnt be much of a problem. You can eat sausage (only if les than say 1 grm carbs per sausage and only have say 2) bacon ( no carbs so as much as you need to satisfy) and eggs ( aprox> 1 grm per lg egg) so have 3 if you want . That would be a meal for 5 grams carbs which is good and you would loose weight.its not the fats that make people fat its the carbs and sugar that do it. If you ate like that for every meal you WILL loose weight. But add bread or potatoes and you got problems not only will you put weight on ( it dosent realy matter what type of bread) stay away from rice and pasta aswell. Also go to library and get dr bernsteins diabetes solutions . It will open your eyes to the fact that what you have been told all your life as to what makes you fat are prety much lies . It will help you realise a diet that will suit you.
 
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Oo also do yourself a favour and get a shed load of sugarfree jelly . It will be a lifeline for when you need to fill up with a snack or when not quite satisfied after a meal
 
Re: HOW CAN ONE EAT SAUSAGE ,BACON,ECT IF THERE 17ST IN WEIG

Sandy, please buy, beg, borrow or steal a few good books on food. I think you should get Carbs and Cals

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Carbs-Cals-Coun ... s+and+cals

It will have all the information you need on calories and carbohydrates, fats and fibre together with photographs of the food showing portion sizes. It even tells you what size plate they served it on.


Then you can easily calculate what you have eaten. Find a calorie limit for weight loss (say 1200?) and a carb limit (50-75g?).
Lose some weight first and your body will cope better with what you put in.

Another good book is 'Curb The Carb = healthy low carbohydrate weight loss programme' (written by Amanda Cross)


Keep calm!

Cara
 
Re: HOW CAN ONE EAT SAUSAGE ,BACON,ECT IF THERE 17ST IN WEIG

good idea the library and amazon , yes i will do this ,
hey i used to hate eggs ive never eaten eggs and today i was quite proud of myself and had 3 egg omlette .
can you eat meat from the packets ? only i read somewhere about them being processed and high in carbs ??? if i can eat meat from a packet i think i will be ok to cut bread out
thanks again guys
 
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Another advocate for sugar free jelly - make batches of orange using tins of mandarins in juice (& the juice as part of the cold liquid mix).

Have also started making vegetable soup using an old Weight-watchers recipe I used years ago - swede, onion, mushrooms, leeks, garlic, courgettes, (potatoes if you want but higher calories than the others) - vegetable stock. I like smooth thick soup so drain most of the stock away (i use this as a drink for couple of days) and blend. Keeps in the fridge a few days or freeze. I eat for lunch and some jelly for afters but if I get a bit peckish small amount in a mug and microwave.

If you feel that you are struggling then asking to see a dietician would be good for you. Am sure your GP would refer you.

Although my diagnosis was only confirmed yesterday have been doing this for a couple of months and on low dose glicozade and have lost a stone. It's a struggle to stick it but determined and I have a lot of weight to lose - was 14st 10 and for a 4ft 11 female not good.

It is hard but sure you can do it.


Type 2 diagnosis confirmed 17/9/13
 
Re: HOW CAN ONE EAT SAUSAGE ,BACON,ECT IF THERE 17ST IN WEIG

I should have said for me weetabix or cornflakes for breakfast and at the moment salad for dinner - we don't eat high fat anyway as partner has heart failure so try and keep away as much as we can.

Also do stews at weekend at the minute - low fat and filling - again I make enough for a couple of days or freeze.


Type 2 diagnosis confirmed 17/9/13
 
Re: HOW CAN ONE EAT SAUSAGE ,BACON,ECT IF THERE 17ST IN WEIG

hi jewels
i have been having weetabix , and wholemeal brwn bread , but somepeople say it is the high carbs and i love my weekabix and toast for breakfast , but for some i think it pushes there blood sugars high ,
i had porridge yesteday , but i will monitor it 2 hours later and see how it affects my blood ,

yes veggie soup ,
i must make one , i put everything in one i done before i was diabetic , tin toms , cabage, swede and all the veggie things i think i will do one of them this weekend :D
 
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jewels3057 said:
Another advocate for sugar free jelly - make batches of orange using tins of mandarins in juice (& the juice as part of the cold liquid mix).

Have also started making vegetable soup using an old Weight-watchers recipe I used years ago - swede, onion, mushrooms, leeks, garlic, courgettes, (potatoes if you want but higher calories than the others) - vegetable stock. I like smooth thick soup so drain most of the stock away (i use this as a drink for couple of days) and blend. Keeps in the fridge a few days or freeze. I eat for lunch and some jelly for afters but if I get a bit peckish small amount in a mug and microwave.

If you feel that you are struggling then asking to see a dietician would be good for you. Am sure your GP would refer you.

Although my diagnosis was only confirmed yesterday have been doing this for a couple of months and on low dose glicozade and have lost a stone. It's a struggle to stick it but determined and I have a lot of weight to lose - was 14st 10 and for a 4ft 11 female not good.

It is hard but sure you can do it.


Type 2 diagnosis confirmed 17/9/13[/quote


The fruit and juice are probably not a good addition if trying to lower bgs as they contain fructose ( fruit sugar) and the juice from the can / carton will also contain fructose and probably sugar aswell. Not sure if there is and other carb conponant of them though. But it would take a good desert/snack into a potential disaster. Yet funnily enough mixing in a small amount of double cream (as long as not elmlea or reduced fat as for taste fat is replaced with sugar) is low in carbs/sugar and makes a fantastic and surprising addition to the jelly mix
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jewels3057 said:
I should have said for me weetabix or cornflakes for breakfast and at the moment salad for dinner - we don't eat high fat anyway as partner has heart failure so try and keep away as much as we can.

Also do stews at weekend at the minute - low fat and filling - again I make enough for a couple of days or freeze.


Type 2 diagnosis confirmed 17/9/13
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Be carefull of certain veg esp onions or rute veg pots and carrots as they are high in natural sugars and carbs and dont forget tomatoes are a fruit and as such are also very high in sugars. It is also worth considering that with both carrots and toms the cooking turns the natural carbs and fructose (to be fair not sure the proper turm for the type of sugar they contain is fructose but will use for purposes of this posting) into a easily digested sugar and can produce large bg spikes
 
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whompa73 said:
jewels3057 said:
Another advocate for sugar free jelly - make batches of orange using tins of mandarins in juice (& the juice as part of the cold liquid mix).

Have also started making vegetable soup using an old Weight-watchers recipe I used years ago - swede, onion, mushrooms, leeks, garlic, courgettes, (potatoes if you want but higher calories than the others) - vegetable stock. I like smooth thick soup so drain most of the stock away (i use this as a drink for couple of days) and blend. Keeps in the fridge a few days or freeze. I eat for lunch and some jelly for afters but if I get a bit peckish small amount in a mug and microwave.

If you feel that you are struggling then asking to see a dietician would be good for you. Am sure your GP would refer you.

Although my diagnosis was only confirmed yesterday have been doing this for a couple of months and on low dose glicozade and have lost a stone. It's a struggle to stick it but determined and I have a lot of weight to lose - was 14st 10 and for a 4ft 11 female not good.

It is hard but sure you can do it.


Type 2 diagnosis confirmed 17/9/13[/quote


The fruit and juice are probably not a good addition if trying to lower bgs as they contain fructose ( fruit sugar) and the juice from the can / carton will also contain fructose and probably sugar aswell. Not sure if there is and other carb conponant of them though. But it would take a good desert/snack into a potential disaster. Yet funnily enough mixing in a small amount of double cream (as long as not elmlea or reduced fat as for taste fat is replaced with sugar) is low in carbs/sugar and makes a fantastic and surprising addition to the jelly mix
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My Dad was diabetic type 2 and went through this with dietician - was told okay although am aware that everyone is different. Might try and find an alternative to the double cream option - thanks for the tip though.


Type 2 diagnosis confirmed 17/9/13
 
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whompa73 said:
jewels3057 said:
I should have said for me weetabix or cornflakes for breakfast and at the moment salad for dinner - we don't eat high fat anyway as partner has heart failure so try and keep away as much as we can.

Also do stews at weekend at the minute - low fat and filling - again I make enough for a couple of days or freeze.


Type 2 diagnosis confirmed 17/9/13
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Be carefull of certain veg esp onions or rute veg pots and carrots as they are high in natural sugars and carbs and dont forget tomatoes are a fruit and as such are also very high in sugars. It is also worth considering that with both carrots and toms the cooking turns the natural carbs and fructose (to be fair not sure the proper turm for the type of sugar they contain is fructose but will use for purposes of this posting) into a easily digested sugar and can produce large bg spikes
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Strange because have been eating this most days for last month and never felt better but have to admit not considered the sugars option for root veg - this is turning into a minefield!! Back to my dads books I think for another read...


Type 2 diagnosis confirmed 17/9/13
 
Re: HOW CAN ONE EAT SAUSAGE ,BACON,ECT IF THERE 17ST IN WEIG

Hi jules chuck I beleive that most dietitians are using out dated theories and not only are they out dated they are also beleived by some diabetic specialists to be dangerous. I also think I have read somewhere lately that it is very much under review and a massive shake up is on its way . I have to be honest har and say that I thought my dr was going to go nuts when I told him I was usuly doing under 15 grams of carbs a day but he actually seemd to aproove especially as I told he when he diagnosed dkd and wanted my bgs down further aad realised dietary I was doing as much as I could and put my meds up slightly. It seemes basic but if you dont put sugar in ( and this includes carbs including low gl and fructose and many more ) them your bgs have to come down . Its the swaying and spikes of bgs that do the damage not a slightly elevated but stable bg .
 
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My first blood test was 8.6 I think then 7.4 and now 6.6. Am actually seeing dr Monday - he is good so will get more advice from him. Glad I came on here now.

Sandy - listen to Whompa and ignore me - wish you all the best.


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Seriously mate read dr bernstien. It will be an eye opener . And he has documented proof of his success. He himself is diabetic and became a dr late in life after taking controll of his own diabetes because the treatment he was receaving was killing him. He is now either the oldest diabetic or and of the oldest diabetics in america I think I read somewhere but what is even more amaizing Is at 80 he is still fit and active and working and regressed all of his diabetic ailments and complecations. If he had stayed the course which is still mainstreem today ( although a lot of drs are now going against the graing and getting far better results) he would have been dead for 30 years . The proof is in the sugar and carbfree pudding ( did you see what I did there . Did ya did ya. Sorry I just couldnt help myself)
 
Re: HOW CAN ONE EAT SAUSAGE ,BACON,ECT IF THERE 17ST IN WEIG

I did see - will look up dr Bernstein tomorrow - sounds like I have found some reading for the weekend.

Thanks for the help and advice.


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Re: HOW CAN ONE EAT SAUSAGE ,BACON,ECT IF THERE 17ST IN WEIG

bernstein was a type 1 diabetic , ? is t1 when you have to have injections or meds?

im t2 at momnet diet controlled , my gp wanted to put me on cholestral but at the time i said no as my cholestral was normal even tho i am 17st in weight ,

im not sure wheater hat i have heard now i should take it ?
 
Re: HOW CAN ONE EAT SAUSAGE ,BACON,ECT IF THERE 17ST IN WEIG

I know exactly what you mean.

I was shunted around by the nhs, advised various diets.
I tried low carb, high fat, I put on weight, low fat, reduced carb, the same happened.

The one that worked for me was low calorie, and regular meals.

Low calorie means no fat to me, as the huge amount of calories in fat meant either say 3kg of mushrooms a day, or 6 sausages for the days food. Low carb by default as well.

So for me. mainly vegetables, avoiding root veg. Salad, no rice or pasta, classic "healthy" food.

It worked for me, but to answer your question, I can't eat sausage or bacon.

But the good news is I've lost over two stone in 4 months, on a fairly easy, sustainable change of diet.
 
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