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5 different types of diabetes identified now

The five types are ...
  • MARD - Mild Age Related Diabetes
  • MOD - Mild Obesity Related Diabetes
  • SIDD - Severe Insulin Deficient Diabetes
  • SAID - Severe AutoImmune Diabetes = Type 1 + LADA
  • SIRD - Severe Insulin Resistant Diabetes
Both mild types can be treated with metformin and lifestyle changes. I am not sure which category I would fit best as I was obese (BMI 33) and 63 years old when diagnosed.
 
Yes I saw the BBC article this morning too. The hopeful thing is that it’ll lead to better devised treatments to achieve the best outcomes - feeling optimistic.
 
I’m sure my family will take great delight in calling me MARDy next time I yell at them for leaving towels on the floor/ mess in the kitchen etc!
 
It is good that they also recognise that if these 5 types are easily distinguishable in Scandinavian population, then other types may well exist elswhere.

Do you think that maybe, just maybe, people will begin to accept that different things work for different people with diabetes?
Let us hope, anyway.
 
Diabetes is actually five separate diseases, research suggests

Links above..
 

Sadly but not unexpectedly the researchers predict that drugs will be able to be targeted more effectively to suit the different needs of these various groups, but diet is never mentioned except by implication when they say that the 5th group (age-related mild diabetes) could be addressed by life-style measures. It seems to me that in fact diet is the one treatment appropriate to all groups.
 

If you mean that regardless diet is important I think that is true.
But diet alone might not be enough. I thought that was the point and that is certainly true for T1s at least as I understand it.

I thought it was an excellent article - some generalisations of course - and some will just read the bits they want but I hope it leads to great treatments that can help people live the life they want to live. Though I have made great progress - I hate it. I hate carb free meals. I hate going out on social do's and not being able to drink a cocktail, not being able to have in an occasional treat because even if I smell a biscuit or cake my BG is off to the moon. I am in awe of the people on this site that have managed for 20years on LC.

Doesn't mean I would trade that for drugs I know will make me worse - but do hope that at some point there will be drugs for me to live a slightly modified life to the one I am living and this article seemed like acknowledgement of that.
 
Type 2 diabetes is largely seen as a disease of poor lifestyle as body fat can affect the way the insulin works. This from the BBC article. An interesting view on the causes of diabetes but that sentence stood out for me (the Guardian article doesn't say this) as it does nothing to refute the public's perception of T2. Or am I being over-sensitive. However, it's good news that there are studies to show that that view is simplistic at the very least. There's a long way to go, but there are signs of hope.
 
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I don't think you are being over sensitive at all. It isn't helpful to the article.
However - as a question for posters:-
I think it is being proven is it not that T2 is largely but by no means completely attributed to poor lifestyle. I haven't seen any evidence that say's it not. In fact quite the opposite - quite a lot of the testimonials I read when I first got here were about poor eating and or loosing a heck of a lot of weight.

I ask the above as a question - I am genuinely interested if in fact T2 isn't related to poor lifestyle and weight. I think I am certainly guilty as charged personally.
 
IMHO that excluding T1 which is an auto immune disease and should not be lumped with the T2D types, the other diabetes types are usually of excess insulin not shortage of insulin.
Of course there are thin diabetics with high hba1c who perhaps have low insulin and may benefit from some insulin?
But what the Kraft studies showed were there were a number of types of hyperinsulinemia and it is manifest years before high blood glucose damages the body as well as the damage from high insulin.
It seems to me that we need to know our insulin status on carbs years before hba1c's are done!

Meds are a poor fix for most of us.

The new model of insulin resistance indicates our cells are crammed with blood glucose, we don't need more insulin in poisonous quantities.
I reckon faulty insulin is a theory that doesn't work for most of us.

I have another form of diabetes in that I have very low first phase insulin on carbs and then when my blood glucose peaks, my insulin floods my system after two hours and I hypo.
Like most T2D refined carb is a No No to counteract this problem.
Sounds like this study was funded by the drug companies but I could be wrong? .D.
 
We can but hope although just look at all the opportunities for new drugs that 5 types will give them..
cynical moi?
 
Not sure that i agree with the MOD and MARD distinction. If you are getting a bit older and less able to handle carbs (MARD) then having excess fat - even if not obese (MOD) - cannot help matters.

If I had to self-diagnose, I suspect that I am MARD but previously not helped by being overweight. Basically with an impaired tolerance to carbs, there is a need to both reduce the load (lowish carbs) and also keep the fat off.

Still it is good that the medical thinking is finally progressing....
 
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Still no mention of those people who are TOFI.
 
We can but hope although just look at all the opportunities for new drugs that 5 types will give them..
cynical moi?

Exactly the same thought crossed my mind!
Even when they were talking about it on this morning’s news it was all about ‘tayloring medication’. There’s some big bucks to be made here!
 
I ask the above as a question - I am genuinely interested if in fact T2 isn't related to poor lifestyle and weight. I think I am certainly guilty as charged personally.

I think it's where more research should provide answers, ie does diabetes cause weight gain, or the 'traditional' view. The way I understand it, hyperinsulemia would cause fat deposition, so weight gain would be a symptom. Managing diet and weight does seem a big part of the 'cure' though. Looking at beta cell/pancreatic function in the different cohorts should give pointers.
 
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