LiveinHope
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- Messages
- 6
- Type of diabetes
- Type 2
- Treatment type
- Tablets (oral)
Hi to the community. I`m 56 male newly diagnosed. It was a shock to find I had Diabetes as I went to my GP with UTI infection and no Diabetic symptoms.I have gone through all the usual treatment. I take Metformin now with little or no side effects. I have lost 22lbs and my Hba1c level is 5.8 at the moment down from 9.8. Cut to the chase - My GP wants to start me on Statins and ACE inhibitors as she feels I am at risk with a QRISK of 27.5%. I DON`T WANT TO TAKE ANY MORE DRUGS THAT IS NECESSARY AND AFTER READING CONFLICTING REPORTS FEEL CONFUSED. I defiantly want to beat this thing with Diet and exercise as i have always been a sporty person, running, cycling, climbing and walking the 2 dogs. Has anyone else out there faced this issue?
Interesting! Begs question why prescribe? I feel I can get all my factors to a safe measure with Diet and Lifestyle with taking arguable medication.Yes, my doctor prescribed a cholesterol lowering drug and a blood pressure lowering drug. It's standard practice to prescribe them to type 2 diabetics. Since my blood glucose levels were normal at the time, I didn't take them. Eventually I saw a diabetes specialist and he confirmed I didn't need them.
Thanks Tim for this info. I was told my QRISK is 27.5 at the moment. Again I feel i can reduce all the factors that make up this result with Diet and lifestyle. Great Forum!@LiveinHope Hello and welcome to the Forum. You've been prescribed both Statins and ACE Inhibitors as, well, that's what they do with diabetes patients.
What you need to determine to help you make your mind up are a few items.
Firstly, get your blood lipids done, and make sure they are broken down into HDL, LDL and Triglycerides. When you have these results you can determine what is the correct approach for you to take. If these are determined to be good, then you need not do anything specific. You would normally address bad numbers by either taking statins or diet.
While the medical profession regards "High" cholesterol as a huge factor in indicating Cardio-vascular risk, there has been a lot of evidence published over the past couple of years that shows that a plain old Cholesterol level is not really of much value, and that the Triglyceride level is the most important factor in determining whether you should be concerned. There is also plenty of evidence that he best way to adjust your cholesterol is not to take statins, but to change your diet.
ACE Inhibitors, as @noblehead says, are given to those considered at risk of kidney disease. The reason they are considered to provide protection is that they reduce blood pressure, which reduces the filtration pressure within the kidneys. If your blood pressure is currently normal, then, while they may help some more, you have to balance whether you want to run with your blood pressure any lower than it is now. For reference, I would take normal as below 130/80.
It is of course entirely up to you what you choose to do. Both blood pressure and cholesterol can be affected by diet and exercise, so you may be able to gain similar effects without touching drugs. It's up to you!
It is actually the standard protocol to prescribe a statin and a blood pressure med to type 2 diabetics, regardless of cholesterol levels or blood pressure levels, although many doctors do not follow this. I think it is because it is assumed that people can't keep their blood glucose levels in control. And probably this is mostly true, since the standard of care is to tell people to eat a high carb/low fat diet and not self test their blood glucose levels. This pretty much guarantees that one's type 2 will progressively get worse. I think they do this for job security. It can't be because they don't know any better, since doctors are generally extremely smart people.Interesting! Begs question why prescribe? I feel I can get all my factors to a safe measure with Diet and Lifestyle with taking arguable medication.
Thank you all you have been very helpful. I can clearly see that this forum speaks from experience and offers objective support and advice. I will think on it further. Regards MarkOne of the biggest risk factors for heart attack/ stroke and indeed type 2 diabetes is in fact age. And there ain't no amount of statins or anything else that is going to make me any younger!
Seriously though if you don't feel you want to add medications then do your research, get your lipid panel done, lose weight if that's needed, keep up the exercise, re-examine your diet - LCHF seems to help most people with both blood glucose levels and their lipid profiles - and make your own choices. Your doctor does not have to live your life and you are the best judge of how you feel and whether the trade off in possible side effects is worth it to you. Bear in mind that many people admitted to hospital with heart attack or stroke have perfectly normal cholesterol levels.
I was recommended metformin and statins as a pre-diabetic but instead went LCHF diet and 'normalised' both blood glucose levels and lipids. Latest recommendation from doctor was 'no action needed'.
I know nothing of ACE inhibitors.
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