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A little help please

sarahlou72

Active Member
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Location
Doncaster
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Yesterday I went for my annual diabetic check up, my HbA1c has risen from 6.2 to 7.2. While I know this probably doesn't seem too bad and should hopefully be able to get it back down.

When I asked about self testing when I was first diagnosed I was told I didn't need to do it as the HbA1c was a better test, original going for tests 3 months, then 6, and then eventually 12.

Other than how I feel in myself, how do I know if what I am doing is right when I am waiting 12 months for a blood test.

So after all that, my question is can someone please recommend a monitor as there are so many out there.
 
Hi and welcome to the forum

The answer to your question is that you have no way of knowing if what you are doing is right when you are waiting 12 months for a blood test. Also, IMO the interval between HbA1c tests should only be lengthened if the results are getting lower. If they are getting higher, then the person should be on a 3 monthly callback, because something is going wrong and needs to be at least monitored. If I were you I would ask to be re-tested in 3 months.

I will tag @daisy1 who has some info she posts for people new to the forum. Have a read of it because I think if you make some changes to what you are eating you can get your HbA1c down significantly. At 7.2 (54 mmol/mol) you are starting to become at risk of microvascular complications and it should be possible to get it down to a safer level like under 6.5 (48) within a short time.

It's great that you want a meter. The test strips are the biggest ongoing cost, and the one with the cheapest strips is the SC Codefree. You will need more strips than the 10 that come with the meter. You can get a discount by entering the codes below too.

Here's a link for the meter http://www.homehealth-uk.com/medical/blood_glucose_monitor_testing.htm
The discount codes for the strips are --5 packs. 264086-----10 packs. 975833
 
Your HbA1c is bad and it's not good that it has risen.
Please tell us if you are on any medication.
Were there diet recommendations by your health care drs or nurses?
You have to search for advice regarding a diet and you gave to check the BS at least daily at the same time,
in the morning before eating or late in the evening after eating.
I would like to recommend a BS meter which is affordable regarding the costs for the test stripes.

Read here: http://www.diabetes.co.uk/blood-glucose-meters/spirit-healthcare-tee2.html
I'm not sure there would be much benefit in checking your blood sugar late in the evening after eating, (or in the morning for that matter, if that was your only check for the day). My suggestion is, when you are starting out, check first thing in the morning, then before and 2 hours after each meal, as this will tell you which foods spike your levels. Gradually your fasting level should come down, and then your next HbA1c should also be lower. This is also explained in Daisy's post, which I am sure will be here soon. :)
 
@sarahlou72

Hello Sarah and welcome to the forum :) As mentioned above, here is the information we give to new members which will help you to improve your levels and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will help you.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Thank you everyone for your responses. They are all very helpful,

Please tell us if you are on any medication.
Were there diet recommendations by your health care drs or nurses?.

I have been on 2 x 500 Metformin for well over a year, no diet recomendations. Not even to cut out carbs
 
Hi there, I don't think 7.2 is a disaster, but it has gone the wrong way and over the long term would not be good for you.There seems to be a lot of resistance from HCP's to testing for type 2.The general view here is this is to save money.But as I said to my DN at our first meeting "You wouldn't get into a car without a speedo or brakes,and check how you were doing three months later by checking the mileage and fuel consumption,would you?" She had no answer to that and I have been prescribed test strips.
Also you will get excellent dietary advice here which combined with testing before and after meals will give you back control.It is working for me and many others on this forum,so I am more inclined to listen to the consensus of those here who are going through this journey together than some of the medical staff I have encountered so far.
Be prepared to stand your ground.

Good luck.
 
Yesterday I went for my annual diabetic check up, my HbA1c has risen from 6.2 to 7.2. While I know this probably doesn't seem too bad and should hopefully be able to get it back down.

When I asked about self testing when I was first diagnosed I was told I didn't need to do it as the HbA1c was a better test, original going for tests 3 months, then 6, and then eventually 12.

Other than how I feel in myself, how do I know if what I am doing is right when I am waiting 12 months for a blood test.

So after all that, my question is can someone please recommend a monitor as there are so many out there.
This is another prime example of the NHS gone mad ..you should self test ..i had a big battle with my doctor over this and ended up changing doctors ...luckily my new doctor prescribes test strips for me ..there are many good blood testers on the market but the cost of test strips do vary good luck.
 
Sorry for not responding sooner, I've been on holiday.

Thank you for your help and advice everyone. I have finally ordered my blood glucose monitor. (thank you CatLadyNZ). Should have it in a few days.

Well done Oldman1954 you're doing great.
 
Good to hear you've ordered some kit. I've been doing it for 18 months and still learning what's is and what's not.
The trick is not to get hung up on individual readings, trends are the thing.... though when I had a small slice of gingerbread and tested my highest ever reading two hours later.... trending was the last thought in my mind.
At the moment I'm finding my water consumption is really influencing my BG's......
Good luck and let us know how you go.
Hj
 
One more question. ... when should I be testing?
Generally it is recommended to test just before you eat and then 2 hours afterwards. You can go bonkers and test, test, test,.... but you're for trending responses.... lower carbs and hopefully see a reduction in BG... and if you get a stonking higher value, check what you ate and reduce/delete it from your menu.
Good luck and let us know how you're going
 
Had my kit just under a fortnight and already on my second set of strips. :)

Some surprising results and others not quite surprising.

I have eaten things this last couple of weeks that I thought would push it up, and things that I thought would keep it steady, at times I am totally confused as the opposite to what I expect happens.

I have realised though that there is no wonder my Hba1c increased.
 
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