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A REAL Cure for Diabetes

I'm sorry but in my book not eating something that your body can't tolerate is NOT curing your body of the inability to tolerate it in the first place!!

I would define a cure for type 1 diabetes as stopping the autoimmune response and regenerating the lost beta cells so that you can eat a huge plate of chips followed by a massive chocolate cake, test 2 hours later and have the same BG as a normal person!! Oh, and making sure the autoimmune response never triggers again.....

In other words, whether it works or not, what the OP is proposing can and never will be a cure!

And Izzzi, the OP couldn't just say she had a problem with obesity even if she wanted to because if she did her posts would be removed as your not allowed to mention weight on here incase people get offended and yet I'm STILL baffled as to why the moderators feel its acceptable to allow posts to remain on here that state there is a cure for diabetes as I can't imagine anything more dangerous and damaging to a newly diagnosed diabetic than reading such utter tosh!!


Diagnosed with GD in 2010, Completely disappeared postpartum. Re-diagnosed December 2012 with type 1.5 diabetes, age 26, BMI 23 currently controlled by only Metformin, 500mg twice a day.
 
The OP having a problem with obesity isn't an issue. If the OP had a problem with MY obesity there would be. There's a difference.

I do agree with you about a "cure" though. I'm allergic to penicillin. If I take it I get slightly dead so I avoid it at all costs. I'm not dead so I assume I'm cured although I don't think I'll chance a test...


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i personnally dont believe it. i have been type 1 for 30 years. tried carb free diets and required no SHORT ACTING INSULIN but still had to take my LONG ACTING to stay alive. if it was as simple as a diet change do you seriously believe that people would be dying of this. no one in their right mind would allow parents to inject their young children if it was not ABSOULUTELY ESSENTIAL TO LIFE.
maybe a cure will be found one day but not in my life time...
 
I have just read all the posts about this subject. I have type 2 and YES I am overweight and YES it is because I have not cared for my body over last 30yrs because I have a "sweet tooth", like wine, and have not done any excercise. I admit I am guilty of getting Type2. HOWEVER this is just me - it is wrong to generalise and say Type 2 is caused by obesity. Rubbish. Being fat does not help I agree. I have had type2 for about 4yrs, that is when it was diagnosed; and it has definitely got worse because of diet etc - I live in France and indulged heavily in bread, cheese, wine and their lovely sugary cakes when we first arrived - hence probably I am now diabetic. It is very difficult for me to lose weight - have tried all sorts of diet, even the Atkins carb free regime. It did work, but only when I was on it. I have read a lot about Diabetes over the last year to try and understand how it works and why it happens. I have come across a series of very helpful videos on www.khanacadamy.org which simply explain why Type 1 occurs - and from this I do not believe Type 1 is curable by diet, medication and exercise. I would recommend all those who are diabetic look at these videos to see just what happens. Type 2 can be reversed, but I am not sure it can be "cured" by diet, exercise and/or medication. I am an advocate of the "Fast Diet" or 5:2 as it is known and have lost about 5kg slosly and my BS has come down too. But I do not believe I will ever be "cured" and will have to watch diet etc for the rest of my life. Others may disagree obiously, but the world would be a boring place if we all agreed with each other!
 
Just come across this post. I am pre-diabetic so admit I cannot speak from a diabetic's experience. But I will add my own personal experiences to the mix

The original poster does have a point. Read, read and research. Do not believe everything the doctor's tell you. But yes, my understanding is that Type 1 is an autoimmune disease and requires an external source of insulin for life (e.g. injections) so I think the OP is wrong here - and as a T1, he should know better. Obesity is a risk factor (amongst other things) but is not the single cause of T2. Family history is a major consideration too, so too is high sugar intake.

But for those who have not been T2 diabetic for very long, I would like to believe it can be reversed. Being told I was pre-diabetic put the sh*t up me and I immediately went on a very low-carb diet, cut out as much sugar as I could and eat a lot of raw or lightly cooked food. I used to love my sandwiches and lattes. Some days I feel very tired whilst other days I feel great. I have lost 1/2 stone in weight (bully for me).

From what I hear (and read on this forum), there is no help for diabetics. They get a raw deal generally. But I am certain that for some (and I note SOME), T2 can be reversed through exercise and diet alone.

That's my 2p worth...
 
Hi guys, well done to everybody that had success using the newcastle diet, can someone please tell me how to get details of this diet? Thank You.
 
IMHO you are born with type 2. the diabetes makes you eat more because you feel hungry sooner so you get fat which makes the hole thing worse, you cannot get rid of it only control it,
My first fasting reading was 16mmols hb1ac was 9.2% my doc said you will take the met for ever,
but 6months later an hb1ac of 4.8% and was told stop the met.
I think of diabetes as something that feeds of the excess food that I eat so the only way to stop it is to starve it, I make sure I feel hungry before I eat and don't eat too much, if you don't eat excess calories then they can't slosh around your blood all day, eat what your going to use, if you eat too much walk it off.
But most importantly eat to the meter.
I am a diabetic allways have been allways will be, it's easier to control, than to live with blindness and without legs etc.
 
I don't think type 2 is a lifestyle 'choice' anymore than anorexia is.... nobody would choose to be a diabetic. It may be relevant to diet at times, but that doesn't make it the person's responsibility. I'm a type 1, but this kind of ignorance frustrates me.
 
I don't think it's necessarily a lifestyle "choice" but to refuse to acknowledge that it may be a lifestyle "consequence" is futile in my personal opinion because to say lifestyle and diet has nothing at all to do with type 2 diabetes would be wrong....

It's one thing to say lifestyle is THE cause of type 2 diabetes, it's quite another to say its A cause of type 2 diabetes and the amount of success stories on this forum alone that have resulted from a lifestyle change is enough to convince me that it's a factor that shouldn't be ignored or denied.


Diagnosed with GD in 2010, Completely disappeared postpartum. Re-diagnosed December 2012 with type 1.5 diabetes, age 26, BMI 22 currently controlled by only Metformin, 500mg twice a day.
 
Just looking back on the posts by @Brit90 and came across this long thread.

No sign that the original pompous statements have resulted in a cure.
Anyone else seen an update?
 
Brit90 said:
Hi all,
I have been doing lots of studying about this subject and reading many books and I have found there is a cure, but it will take time and patients as well as commitment from you. Don't let anyone tell you there is no cure for most of the ailments in the world, because there is. It is a lifestyle choice that brings on a lot of problems and Type 2 is definitely a Lifestyle Choice, which is why it developed. I will not go into any debates about this. Read, learn then understand how things work.

The fundamentals of the program is basically, eating raw foods, no sugars and pre-packaged rubbish. For people who want to know more or learn more, I recommend the Documentary - Simply Raw - Reversing Diabetes in 30 Days. Google it, find it and watch it. It's not too in-depth but will hopefully show you the things we are doing wrong.

Rather than everyone saying its rubbish and it doesn't work. I will put myself through the program. I am Type 1 and I have been for more than 10 years. Fully insulin dependant.

This will be a trial for me, and hopefully I will not have to inject any more after this, or hopefully I don't stray from the diet regime. Everything is a struggle and we all get tempted by everything around us.

I welcome comments and criticisms.

Just remember, Pharmaceutical companies never want to cure you of anything. Everything they do is to keep you living longer so someone has to keep paying for the medication.

Scott
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Good luck to you
 
Brit90 said:
Show me a person who is fit and healthy (not overweight) with Type 2.

Anyway - currently on 50 units a day, lets see if i can bring it down
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I blame the government in the US for the diabetes, because if they didn't put additives, hormones, and other things are food wouldn't be making us have diabeties
 
elaine77 said:
I'm sorry but in my book not eating something that your body can't tolerate is NOT curing your body of the inability to tolerate it in the first place!!

I would define a cure for type 1 diabetes as stopping the autoimmune response and regenerating the lost beta cells so that you can eat a huge plate of chips followed by a massive chocolate cake, test 2 hours later and have the same BG as a normal person!! Oh, and making sure the autoimmune response never triggers again.....

In other words, whether it works or not, what the OP is proposing can and never will be a cure!

And Izzzi, the OP couldn't just say she had a problem with obesity even if she wanted to because if she did her posts would be removed as your not allowed to mention weight on here incase people get offended and yet I'm STILL baffled as to why the moderators feel its acceptable to allow posts to remain on here that state there is a cure for diabetes as I can't imagine anything more dangerous and damaging to a newly diagnosed diabetic than reading such utter tosh!!


Diagnosed with GD in 2010, Completely disappeared postpartum. Re-diagnosed December 2012 with type 1.5 diabetes, age 26, BMI 23 currently controlled by only Metformin, 500mg twice a day.
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elaine77 said:
I'm sorry but in my book not eating something that your body can't tolerate is NOT curing your body of the inability to tolerate it in the first place!!

I would define a cure for type 1 diabetes as stopping the autoimmune response and regenerating the lost beta cells so that you can eat a huge plate of chips followed by a massive chocolate cake, test 2 hours later and have the same BG as a normal person!! Oh, and making sure the autoimmune response never triggers again.....

In other words, whether it works or not, what the OP is proposing can and never will be a cure!

And Izzzi, the OP couldn't just say she had a problem with obesity even if she wanted to because if she did her posts would be removed as your not allowed to mention weight on here incase people get offended and yet I'm STILL baffled as to why the moderators feel its acceptable to allow posts to remain on here that state there is a cure for diabetes as I can't imagine anything more dangerous and damaging to a newly diagnosed diabetic than reading such utter tosh!!


Diagnosed with GD in 2010, Completely disappeared postpartum. Re-diagnosed December 2012 with type 1.5 diabetes, age 26, BMI 23 currently controlled by only Metformin, 500mg twice a day.
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The OP's original statement is a choice of foods. Some people are convinced that the diet they choose will help or cure? and will be rid of diabetes. OP has asked for comments, whether negative or positive.
If you have issues about the thread's content the best thing to do is to contact moderators , or Admin and put your points across.
Also weight issues are mentioned on here a lot, and lots of members are supportive and post encouraging words. When negative persoinal remarks or attacks are posted then obviously it needs to be looked into.

A member asked about the return of OP ? The OP was last seen on the forum, December 24 th 2014. So hopefully OP will be back to update us, as I'm sure forum members will be interested in the results!!..........if there are any ?

Best wishes RRB
 
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I have heard of Type 2's changing their lifestyle and loosing weight and then being cured. This relates to those who may have type 2 that is lifestyle related but not all type 2 is lifestyle related.

Some Type 2s still have some beta cells so it is possible.

BUT a type 1 who has no beta cells - This is just ridiculous. I watched the video and its a total money making scam. There is no proof it works or supporting medical evidence.

This guys videos appear on the internet and are always removed by authorities.

Its a guy who is making money by selling a diet... thats all.
If you watch his video, he keeps saying the same old things - and by the way he talks, it so obvious he is playing on the fears that we have as diabetics.

He keeps talking about complications but wont give any information regarding his theory or plan and the video goes on and on and on so people subscribe to his plan out of fear of complications.
He goes into great detail about how he saw his fathers legs amputated.... just really vile nasty stuff - playing off the fear of diabetics and their loved ones.
This man is nothing but a vile nasty man delivering utter nonsense and scamming money from desperately ill diabetics and their families.

If there was a cure for Type 1 diabetes, do you think the NHS would be spending millions of pounds on us?

The only cure will come from Beta Cells - once they are able to find a natural process for them to be produced in the body and once there is a way that these cells can be protected and not destroyed by our own bodies. I believe we are probably about 10 years away from this so hopefully our next generation will be the lucky ones.
 
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