A serious Question

[bulkbiker]

completely veggie for 35 years, then started eating fish again about five years ago ... so i guess it's more accurate to say that i'm a piscivorous veggie ... or something ....

Only kidding... enjoy the cheese in any case.
M

 

[Bluetit1802]

Hi Bluetit. May I ask your opinion? I've been on very low carb for a month or so.
Things seem to have changed a bit and I'm getting higher pre-evening meal readings on my meter. (5.5 2 weeks ago, 6.9 yesterday). That was after 2 very low carb meals at breakfast and lunch. No snacking with plenty of water and sugarless coffee. Readings actually came down after dinner to 6.1. Could this be down to liver dump during the day you think?
Sorry to be an idiot.

We probably all get odd readings at times, the only time to worry is when an upward trend continues.
Have you changed your afternoon routine in any way, or the time you test before evening meal?
How many readings round 6.9 have you had recently before evening meal?
If just an odd time, did you re-test in case it was a corrupted reading or a meter error?
Have any of your other pre-meal/fasting levels started to increase?

 

[ickihun]

Thank you asking. I've just written and deleted a reply because it was just so whingy whiney. So I've pulled myself together now and YES I am hoping it will be lower.

My bottom line is that I don't want to take meds. The DN has said that I won't be able to manage my type 2 without taking meds and I was sneered at for asking what level I had to get down to in order not to have to take them. I don't want another appointment like that one.

All things being equal my A1c should be lower but as we all know things aren't always equal.

I don't measure my own personal diabetes achievement with my hba1c. I do prefer a fbg to be good to start everyone of my days on the best start possible. Dns job is to improve my hba1c too. The easiest way is insulin but tablets are cheaper for the nhs. Any dn knows how much relief is provided to patients given med support when diabetes is difficult to get in good levels. I was is one helleva state when I first met my hospital dn. It has been a long process but I am happy with my diabetes management of meds and low carb diet with the benefit of a good dietician too. Their whole team help me manage my 40yr old diabetes. I've yearned for weight loss and good diabetes health. I'm happy my dn can help if a problem ever arose again.
I appreciate not all dn are the same thou.

 

[KathyCP]

Only kidding... enjoy the cheese in any case.
M

 

[woodywhippet61]

I don't measure my own personal diabetes achievement with my hba1c. I do prefer a fbg to be good to start everyone of my days on the best start possible. Dns job is to improve my hba1c too. The easiest way is insulin but tablets are cheaper for the nhs. Any dn knows how much relief is provided to patients given med support when diabetes is difficult to get in good levels. I was is one helleva state when I first met my hospital dn. It has been a long process but I am happy with my diabetes management of meds and low carb diet with the benefit of a good dietician too. Their whole team help me manage my 40yr old diabetes. I've yearned for weight loss and good diabetes health. I'm happy my dn can help if a problem ever arose again.
I appreciate not all dn are the same thou.

I never said that I did. HOWEVER my HCP's do measure my diabetes achievement by my A1c numbers. That's how they diagnosed me in the first place and how they will be judging my ability to control it at this moment in time.

 

[Bluetit1802]

I never said that I did. HOWEVER my HCP's do measure my diabetes achievement by my A1c numbers. That's how they diagnosed me in the first place and how they will be judging my ability to control it at this moment in time.

At the end of the day, if you self test regularly you know how well controlled you are (or not). Does it really matter how the HCPs judge it? They only use it so they can change medication if necessary, and it is up to you if you take the medication, especially if you know what your control is like. You can always say no thank you, I'm happy as I am. (If you are happy, that is.)

 

[ickihun]

I never said that I did. HOWEVER my HCP's do measure my diabetes achievement by my A1c numbers. That's how they diagnosed me in the first place and how they will be judging my ability to control it at this moment in time.

Sorry if you thought I was moaning. On the contrary. I was just telling you what I do, incase anyone was interested. Sorry if I offended you.

 

[Jo_the_boat]

We probably all get odd readings at times, the only time to worry is when an upward trend continues.
Have you changed your afternoon routine in any way, or the time you test before evening meal?
How many readings round 6.9 have you had recently before evening meal?
If just an odd time, did you re-test in case it was a corrupted reading or a meter error?
Have any of your other pre-meal/fasting levels started to increase?

Thanks for replying. Yesterday things seem to have returned to where I would have expected them, as you say it's probably just 'odd'. No upward trend. To answer you, I did retest with similar results and tested the meter with the test strip. Only other readings up are the early morning ones which I would expect. Thanks.

 

[ickihun]

@wiseowl_123 I've lost interest in what my fbgs are. I still test but not interested in sharing mine anymore.
I was enjoying the banter on a morning, even looked forward to posting but no joy anymore, for me.
I'll post adhoc if I'm in a good mood but I've definitely lost interest in what thread to be careful on, incase someone gets upset.
I'll do without too.

I guess everything changes. They both are just not the same, for me.
I'll go it alone with my fbgs. Each to their own.

 

[poshtotty]

@wiseowl_123 I've lost interest in what my fbgs are. I still test but not interested in sharing mine anymore.
I was enjoying the banter on a morning, even looked forward to posting but no joy anymore, for me.
I'll post adhoc if I'm in a good mood but I've definitely lost interest in what thread to be careful on, incase someone gets upset.
I'll do without too.

I guess everything changes. They both are just not the same, for me.
I'll go it alone with my fbgs. Each to their own.

Ditto

 

[woodywhippet61]

Sorry if you thought I was moaning. On the contrary. I was just telling you what I do, incase anyone was interested. Sorry if I offended you.

TBH I wish that I hadn't posted at all. Maybe it's difficult for people who've been doing all this testing, and doctor visiting and drug taking for years to remember just how unnerving it can be for someone just starting out. It appears that none of you understand at all what I'm trying to say and you all just telling me that an A1c result isn't important doesn't actually help.

It's just another test that isn't worth doing.

Ickihun I am glad that you have good experiences with your HCP's I believe that it's important that positive things get posted on here and I also understand that it can be hard to post things that others disagree with.

 

[ickihun]

TBH I wish that I hadn't posted at all. Maybe it's difficult for people who've been doing all this testing, and doctor visiting and drug taking for years to remember just how unnerving it can be for someone just starting out.

My first contact with this particular surgery was being diagnosed with diabetes and it wasn't handled that well. A receptionist told me that there was nothing wrong but I needed to have them repeated sometime in the next couple of months. I was told that I had diabetes when I went in to see the dr about something totally different. When I had my second blood test all of the blood tests done that morning 'had a problem' so I had to have another one. Then came the unpleasant first encounter with my dn.

I am glad that you have good experiences with your HCP's

It will get hugely better.
My first appointments were very scarey. I did a safety critical job so I couldnt renew my licence at work. My world fell apart.
Huge more support and awareness now. (Compared to 14yrs ago).
This forum has been my guiding light for understanding and acceptance. With low carb it gave me hope. Lower bgs, less insulin then..... eventually weight loss.

Stick with the forum. You will get the support the nhs hasnt the money for.

Just remember the fact you haven't stuck your head in the sand is the best achievement and is truely worthy of an acculade.
So a very well done.
All diabetes stages are tough. No matter where any sufferer is at.

Confidence from this forum helps, a lot.