Advice for newly diagnosed type 2

Brookemurph

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Hello all,

I am type 1 but sadly my dad has just been diagnosed with type 2.
I’m looking for some advice on what he can do next and any changes he can make short term to have the most impact.

He been put on metaformin - I don’t know much about this and statins for high cholesterol.

Any advice welcome please!
 
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Art Of Flowers

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I reversed my Type 2
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Get a blood glucose meter and go on a low carb high fat (LCHF) diet.
 

Rachox

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Hi @Brookemurph and welcome to the forum. Have a read of this blog written by one of our members and come back with any questions, there’ll always be someone to help.
 
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ajbod

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Take a reading just before eating a meal, and repeat 2 hours after finishing. If the second reading is less than 2 mmol higher than the first, and preferably lower than 7.8 mmol, then his system handled what he ate ok. If the reading is higher by more than 2 mmol, then there were too many carbs for him to handle. next time reduce the carby parts, or remove altogether if a very high reading was found. When you do this, increase the protein and fat to compensate. This way you rapidly learn what NOT to eat, or how much you can handle.
The worst offenders are Potatoes, Rice, Pasta, Pastry, Bread, Breakfast cereals and anything grain based. Avoid cooking oils, except proper olive oil, and nut based oils. Use good old Lard, Dripping, Butter and Coconut oil.
The good stuff is Bacon, EGGS, above ground veggies, Butter, Cream, Hard cheeses and fattier cuts of meat. Above all else avoid like the plague anything "low fat", always choose the full fat option, contrary to the rubbish we've been fed for many years this will not have any affect on Cholesterol levels. apart from short term whilst he will most likely be shedding body fat.
Generally anything below about 130g carbs a day is considered low carb, but we all have vastly varying levels that our bodies can cope with. Many of us had to go as low as 20g a day, to really kick things into gear.
 
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Rachox

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Take a reading just before eating a meal, and repeat 2 hours after finishing.
Most of us test two hours after the first bite of the meal.
 
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HairySmurf

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If I could go back to the beginning and do it all over again, I would:

1: Immediately eliminate very high-carb meals. Big portions of pizza, rice, bread, potatoes etc. Don't wait for the BG test results - these changes are a no-brainer for someone with a T2 diagnosis. Good, immediate common-sense changes are zero pizza, cauliflower rice instead of rice (can be got in single portion frozen bags from the likes of Tesco, soaks up sauce from curry, stir-fry etc. so tastes like the sauce), a decent lower-carb bread product if you can find one (I currently eat this product - Link), and if eating potatoes make it a couple of baby ones. Also, no feasting on fruit, and obviously eliminate big doses of sugar.

2: Do the BG testing before and after meals as described by others above and adjust carbs down from there as necessary. If I could go back in time I would have actually gotten a CGM for this purpose as there is a free trial of the Libre 2 (Plus) in many countries, and taken screenshots of the graphs for later reference. The reason for this is that the 2 hour test, while very useful and cheap, is something of a blunt instrument compared to a CGM. For me, some meals actually cause a BG peak after the 2 hour mark, others spike high and fast but drop back down well before the 2 hour mark, and yet others cause a long period of elevation. The 2 hour test can sometimes be deceptive. Here's a particularly unusual example of one such meal - the pitta bread probably wasn't as good an idea as the result of the 2 hour test would make it appear. That said - the 2 hour test is usually a good indicator.
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3: If overweight, as I was, plan for weight loss and get it done. This long video interview with Prof Roy Taylor describes the liver fat problem that might be present and what weight loss can do in the ideal circumstance, particularly if achieved soon after diagnosis - Link A low carb diet will very often lead to weight loss, though don't take too long about it.

I did get the weight-loss done, dropped 28Kg after diagnosis (between October and May), and the results have been amazing. My HbA1c dropped from 89 mmol/mol in October to 39 mmol/mol in January to 32 mmol/mol in June. The first drop was mostly weight loss and some meds, the second drop was due to more weight loss while still on the meds and reducing carb intake. Neither the effects of those meds or the amount of carbs I was eating could account for that drop - weight loss was by far the biggest factor. What I didn't do though was analyse the effects of the carbs I was eating right from the beginning. I mostly focussed on calories, not carbs, for the first few months and that was probably a bad idea. I may have done myself some harm that I could have avoided. I never went extremely low on carbs as I didn't need to, though I absolutely should have moderated my carb intake further and sooner.