All women with the "hunter" gene get gestational diabetes.

Do you have the "hunter" gene

  • No

    Votes: 2 33.3%
  • yes

    Votes: 1 16.7%
  • don't know

    Votes: 5 83.3%

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yetta2mymom

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My diet is all meat.
Hi

Using my theories about what type 2 diabetes is I have been wondering if your diet would reverse Type 2 diabetes. I eat the additions so that I get the necessary vitamins etc... Some of which may not be known. A doctor pushing your type diet to correct type 2 diabetes has (stolen?) one of my (word?). He showed it to me when I went to his site. He stole my statement similar to what I have posted that I have eaten this weird diet for over 12 years and my health if anything has improved.
 
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I'm finding it hard not to fall off my chair!!!! LOVE IT!!! Made my night.
Glad you liked it.

Something else that may make you smile.

My partner of 47 years is a "hunter", she can sniff out and grab the $50.00 notes in my wallet if I am not careful.
 

Kristin251

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Glad you liked it.

Something else that may make you smile.

My partner of 47 years is a "hunter", she can sniff out and grab the $50.00 notes in my wallet if I am not careful.
Now I am on the floor!!! Go girl!!
 

andcol

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Everybody. The OP deserves respect. If you are going to add any more mocking posts you will be banned from the thread. If you do not want to see the posts from Yetta then please use your internal blocking function (ie your brain) or if you can't do that then the forum's capability to block.
 

NoCrbs4Me

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Hi

Using my theories about what type 2 diabetes is I have been wondering if your diet would reverse Type 2 diabetes. I eat the additions so that I get the necessary vitamins etc... Some of which may not be known. A doctor pushing your type diet to correct type 2 diabetes has (stolen?) one of my (word?). He showed it to me when I went to his site. He stole my statement similar to what I have posted that I have eaten this weird diet for over 12 years and my health if anything has improved.
Yes, an all meat diet can reverse type 2 diabetes - and lots of other chronic medical conditions. Beef has all nutrient a human needs. What do you think it's missing? I don't think there are any unknown vitamins.
 

Lamont D

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I do not have diabetes
For those that are not aware of why RH is not a genetic condition.

It is a endocrine system condition, or atypical asymptomatic with a metabolic condition.
If it was genetic, why is it only a few men that have it? Why is it mostly women?
Why do people who have bariatric surgery get the condition?
And not have RH before surgery?

Youngsters get Hypoglycaemia through childhood, they grow of it mostly.
Women get symptoms, not the actual condition during pregnancy.
Why does it take something like a stomach problem to trigger the condition?

Hypoglycaemia is a natural occurrence, it only becomes a problem when it is episodic and frequent.

According to my endocrinologist, RH develops because the gut brain trigger alters the insulin response. The reaction is that our pancreas creates the excess insulin because of an overshoot.
Hyperinsulinaemia develops which causes the insulin resistance and the high glucose levels and high insulin levels.
The only treatment is dietary. Hence the reference to a very low carb diet. Eating only meat works, having a few very low carb vegetables helps with balance of how our bodies adapt. Most of my meals are protein based.

One of the things I've discovered is how the insulin is triggered by too much protein,, depending on which protein it is. Chicken is fine in small portions, whereas beef, you can have as much as you want, but I'm always full after a small steak, but I do have mushrooms and onions with it!

RH is a condition that can be controlled by diet.
To suggest other than being an endocrine issue is grasping at straws to discover how and why you have the condition.
 

yetta2mymom

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For those that are not aware of why RH is not a genetic condition.

It is a endocrine system condition, or atypical asymptomatic with a metabolic condition.
If it was genetic, why is it only a few men that have it? Why is it mostly women?
Why do people who have bariatric surgery get the condition?
And not have RH before surgery?

Youngsters get Hypoglycaemia through childhood, they grow of it mostly.
Women get symptoms, not the actual condition during pregnancy.
Why does it take something like a stomach problem to trigger the condition?

Hypoglycaemia is a natural occurrence, it only becomes a problem when it is episodic and frequent.

According to my endocrinologist, RH develops because the gut brain trigger alters the insulin response. The reaction is that our pancreas creates the excess insulin because of an overshoot.
Hyperinsulinaemia develops which causes the insulin resistance and the high glucose levels and high insulin levels.
The only treatment is dietary. Hence the reference to a very low carb diet. Eating only meat works, having a few very low carb vegetables helps with balance of how our bodies adapt. Most of my meals are protein based.

One of the things I've discovered is how the insulin is triggered by too much protein,, depending on which protein it is. Chicken is fine in small portions, whereas beef, you can have as much as you want, but I'm always full after a small steak, but I do have mushrooms and onions with it!

RH is a condition that can be controlled by diet.
To suggest other than being an endocrine issue is grasping at straws to discover how and why you have the condition.
Hi

I have reactive hypoglycemia (a different condition, but maybe endocrine related). It is also possible that your specialist and I, just disagree. Many doctors have read my web site. A total of going on 9000 people have read it, that includes some double counting. I advertise in google to health care professionals in the U.S. and India. Less than 1/2 the (word?) are from google the rest are directly to my web site. I ask for feedback and provide 3 methods of giving same. I remember a total of 5 responses (all antonymous) none questioned anything I wrote. One said his/her urologist gave me a 10/of a possible 10 but he/she thought I was full of ****. I have written to the 10 people on the board of directors of this web site and asked if anything I say is repudiated with actual evidence. They have allowed me to make this posting. I get very low blood sugar about 3 1/2 hours after eating much too much sugar/starch/alchol. I get fatigue after eating too much sugar, over 1 hour later. I do not get hypoglycemia spontaneously. This is somewhat untrue. I got some fatigue symptoms, not as bad as before my diet, for a few years into my diet. I also disturbed my vagus nerve and got many episodes of a slow pulse rate. One happened while I was wired up for a colonoscopy. What a way to learn about that possible problem. This lasted for several years into my diet. I have not had my very low blood sugar for many (53?) years. I started my problem in 1957 (note: fine until I turned 18) when I lost 20-25 lbs (is that about 8 kilograms?) in about 1 month and had (still have) an overactive bladder. I developed fatigue. This is the classical symptoms of an autoimmune problem when 1 type cell in your body is destroyed by your immune system. I figured out (1964) that I had very low blood sugar from what happened in a glucose tolerance test. I did not get very low blood sugar but I had a very minor shaking about 3 1/2 hours into the test. I was tested for 2 hours but since I have the "hunter" gene my blood sugar had slowed its rise but was still rising (185). The nurse took a reading after 3 hours and saw my blood sugar was 100. Then, as I was leaving the hospital I got a very mild shaking. I knew I got these very mild shaking (innumerable times) near simultaneously (have no idea whether it was (always?) a few minutes (seconds?) later or preceding) suddenly recovering from sever fatigue. I made the educated guess that the times I had the symptoms I had read occur when you have very low blood sugar were as I have postulated. The ignorant diabetes specialist who looked at my glucose tolerance test didn't care what I said he just noted my 185 reading of blood sugar after 2 hours and proclaimed me prediabetic. The smart doctor who sent me for the glucose tolerance test did so because I had all the classical symptoms of very low blood sugar. Yes, my fatigue could have been one of the symptoms (how confusing). I had 1 blood sugar reading while I was in my fatigue state it was 60. This is low ,but not low enough, for the amount of fatigue I was experiencing.
In case anyone reads this, I should indicate that I have postulated that since we are abusing our reactions to prevent very low blood sugar with many releases of the hormones which make us temporarily diabetic. Maybe diabetes is the hormones being on all the time. After all my hormones are in general on most of the time and have been on all the time for many years. Yes, I am simulating a type 2 diabetic.
 
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Lamont D

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Hi

I have reactive hypoglycemia (a different condition, but maybe endocrine related). It is also possible that your specialist and I, just disagree. I have not had my very low blood sugar for many (53?) years. I started my problem in 1957.

I have Reactive Hypoglycaemia, the same as you!
We all differ in small details but we both have the same reaction to what we eat!
You have the same symptoms!
You have not I believe been seeing an endocrinologist for some years.
The point I'm making is you insist on a genetic answer to the condition, myself and my endocrinologist disagree with your theory. He is a specialist endocrinologist who has experience with more than twenty RH patients, mostly women.
He has done extensive research into gestational diabetes, and the concurrent symptoms with Hypoglycaemia.
He has other patients with Hypoglycaemia, which differ from RH, the likes of hyperinsulinaemia, insulinoma, pancreatic cancer, pancreatitis and other pancreatic conditions.
So who do I believe is nearer to the truth, you or my specialist?

Our condition just over a decade ago, was not called Late Reactive Hypoglycaemia, it was termed idiopathic hypoglycaemia. Why because idiopathic means no known cause. Since then, some basic research has been done along with other types of hypoglycaemia. And in due course the testing, diagnostic procedure and how to treat the various hypoglycaemic and pancreatic conditions have altered as we learn more about the condition.

Where we agree is not to let the condition take over our health by eating the right foods so that we don't get ill!

You are right to try to get answers, but do keep an open mind that the 'hunter gene' is not the answer you have been searching for all these years.

I have a large family and we do have some health problems, for instance my grandson has Kleinfelters syndrome.
So if RH is genetic, why am I the only one?
Out of thirty two people in my immediate family, only myself has this condition!
None of my female relatives has suffered from gestational diabetes!
I can't prove it of course, but I doubt if my condition is hereditary!

Best wishes
 

yetta2mymom

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Type of diabetes
Don't have diabetes
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I have Reactive Hypoglycaemia, the same as you!
We all differ in small details but we both have the same reaction to what we eat!
You have the same symptoms!
You have not I believe been seeing an endocrinologist for some years.
The point I'm making is you insist on a genetic answer to the condition, myself and my endocrinologist disagree with your theory. He is a specialist endocrinologist who has experience with more than twenty RH patients, mostly women.
He has done extensive research into gestational diabetes, and the concurrent symptoms with Hypoglycaemia.
He has other patients with Hypoglycaemia, which differ from RH, the likes of hyperinsulinaemia, insulinoma, pancreatic cancer, pancreatitis and other pancreatic conditions.
So who do I believe is nearer to the truth, you or my specialist?

Our condition just over a decade ago, was not called Late Reactive Hypoglycaemia, it was termed idiopathic hypoglycaemia. Why because idiopathic means no known cause. Since then, some basic research has been done along with other types of hypoglycaemia. And in due course the testing, diagnostic procedure and how to treat the various hypoglycaemic and pancreatic conditions have altered as we learn more about the condition.

Where we agree is not to let the condition take over our health by eating the right foods so that we don't get ill!

You are right to try to get answers, but do keep an open mind that the 'hunter gene' is not the answer you have been searching for all these years.

I have a large family and we do have some health problems, for instance my grandson has Kleinfelters syndrome.
So if RH is genetic, why am I the only one?
Out of thirty two people in my immediate family, only myself has this condition!
None of my female relatives has suffered from gestational diabetes!
I can't prove it of course, but I doubt if my condition is hereditary!

Best wishes
Hi

I have a different theory than your doctors. They did (do) not realize that we all have hormones that produce insulin resistance. Once this becomes obvious the picture changes. We all stop insulin from overshooting by producing these hormones. It is a lack of these hormones that leads to hypoglycemia. 2 many things are explained when you make that assumption. Why there is gestational diabetes and the fact that "hunter" gene women all get gestational diabetes. Just ask chubby women from India. Why can we live on a low carb diet. What is type 2 diabetes. I have been asking for their proof for years. It is all theory based on the fact that there are cells in the body that become sort of tired. ,My cousin got our problem about the same time I did. I have therefore guess that there was a virus which was too similar to one of our cells in the adrenal gland. I assume the adrenal gland partially because I became over responsive to epheneferene (can't spell).
 

yetta2mymom

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I have Reactive Hypoglycaemia, the same as you!
We all differ in small details but we both have the same reaction to what we eat!
You have the same symptoms!
You have not I believe been seeing an endocrinologist for some years.
The point I'm making is you insist on a genetic answer to the condition, myself and my endocrinologist disagree with your theory. He is a specialist endocrinologist who has experience with more than twenty RH patients, mostly women.
He has done extensive research into gestational diabetes, and the concurrent symptoms with Hypoglycaemia.
He has other patients with Hypoglycaemia, which differ from RH, the likes of hyperinsulinaemia, insulinoma, pancreatic cancer, pancreatitis and other pancreatic conditions.
So who do I believe is nearer to the truth, you or my specialist?

Our condition just over a decade ago, was not called Late Reactive Hypoglycaemia, it was termed idiopathic hypoglycaemia. Why because idiopathic means no known cause. Since then, some basic research has been done along with other types of hypoglycaemia. And in due course the testing, diagnostic procedure and how to treat the various hypoglycaemic and pancreatic conditions have altered as we learn more about the condition.

Where we agree is not to let the condition take over our health by eating the right foods so that we don't get ill!

You are right to try to get answers, but do keep an open mind that the 'hunter gene' is not the answer you have been searching for all these years.

I have a large family and we do have some health problems, for instance my grandson has Kleinfelters syndrome.
So if RH is genetic, why am I the only one?
Out of thirty two people in my immediate family, only myself has this condition!
None of my female relatives has suffered from gestational diabetes!
I can't prove it of course, but I doubt if my condition is hereditary!

Best wishes
Hi

I am waiting for someone to tell me that they (or someone they know) had/has gestational diabetes and did not have a glucose tolerance test as I discribed or had verylittle change in their A1C even though they changed their diet signifiacantly. I do not know the details of how the hormones are produced and how their effects are stopped in the "hunter" population.
 

yetta2mymom

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Messages
337
Type of diabetes
Don't have diabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
Dislikes
?
I have Reactive Hypoglycaemia, the same as you!
We all differ in small details but we both have the same reaction to what we eat!
You have the same symptoms!
You have not I believe been seeing an endocrinologist for some years.
The point I'm making is you insist on a genetic answer to the condition, myself and my endocrinologist disagree with your theory. He is a specialist endocrinologist who has experience with more than twenty RH patients, mostly women.
He has done extensive research into gestational diabetes, and the concurrent symptoms with Hypoglycaemia.
He has other patients with Hypoglycaemia, which differ from RH, the likes of hyperinsulinaemia, insulinoma, pancreatic cancer, pancreatitis and other pancreatic conditions.
So who do I believe is nearer to the truth, you or my specialist?

Our condition just over a decade ago, was not called Late Reactive Hypoglycaemia, it was termed idiopathic hypoglycaemia. Why because idiopathic means no known cause. Since then, some basic research has been done along with other types of hypoglycaemia. And in due course the testing, diagnostic procedure and how to treat the various hypoglycaemic and pancreatic conditions have altered as we learn more about the condition.

Where we agree is not to let the condition take over our health by eating the right foods so that we don't get ill!

You are right to try to get answers, but do keep an open mind that the 'hunter gene' is not the answer you have been searching for all these years.

I have a large family and we do have some health problems, for instance my grandson has Kleinfelters syndrome.
So if RH is genetic, why am I the only one?
Out of thirty two people in my immediate family, only myself has this condition!
None of my female relatives has suffered from gestational diabetes!
I can't prove it of course, but I doubt if my condition is hereditary!

Best wishes
Hi
You have not read correctly. Our condition is an auto-immune disease (think type 1 diabetes). We are not born with it and (anyone?) can get the auto-immune disease (1 type cell in the adrenal glands is destroyed by the body). The symptoms for people with our genetics are different then the symptoms for people with the "Normal" genetics. They get the standard reactive hypoglycemia.
I have been emailing with probably the world expert on adrenal gland functioning. I have had no responses questioning my theories from the health care professionals who look at my web site from my ad in google in the U.S. and India. My theories are "new?" and therefore shocking?
 
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I have been emailing with probably the world expert on adrenal gland functioning. I have had no responses questioning my theories from the health care professionals who look at my web site
Most probably your email is filtered straight into the spam / trash folder, which is why you have had not reply.
 

yetta2mymom

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Most probably your email is filtered straight into the spam / trash folder, which is why you have had not reply.
Hi

My latest theory is that the reason why women with the "hunter" gene get gestational diabetes is that if they turn off the hormones that would effect the hormones for the fetus and the fetus would die. His reply (paraphrase,I can look the exact response iup if you like) was the amount of hormones in the womb is effected in the womb is effected by insulin resistance and therefore my theory sounds likely.
 

Lamont D

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Type of diabetes
Reactive hypoglycemia
Treatment type
I do not have diabetes
Hi
You have not read correctly. Our condition is an auto-immune disease (think type 1 diabetes). We are not born with it and (anyone?) can get the auto-immune disease (1 type cell in the adrenal glands is destroyed by the body). The symptoms for people with our genetics are different then the symptoms for people with the "Normal" genetics. They get the standard reactive hypoglycemia.
I have been emailing with probably the world expert on adrenal gland functioning. I have had no responses questioning my theories from the health care professionals who look at my web site from my ad in google in the U.S. and India. My theories are "new?" and therefore shocking?

Reactive Hypoglycaemia is definitely not an auto immune condition.
Otherwise it would be classed as Type1!

Our condition is endocrine, where the balance of glucose, glycogen and glucagon is in imbalanced and how our beta cells trigger the initial and secondary insulin response through our gut brain trigger.

Your theory of the hunter gene, even if you did have, is not the cause or reason behind reactive Hypoglycaemia or gestational diabetes.
Your theory is flawed.

Hence, why no one answers your email etc.