HiYou are correct that there is another autoimmune disease which it might be worth exploring. It is called Type B insulin resistance - which is a rare autoimmune disorder which is characterised by extreme insulin resistance and extreme vitamin D deficiency . It appears remission - i.e. amelioration of hyperglycemia , normalisation of Hba1Cand discontinuation of insulin therapy is achievable through a combination of rituximab, cyclophoshamide and pulse steroids .
Type B it seems mainly ( but not exclusively ) presents in patients who are African and females
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2913034/
You might like to take a look at this research and see if you think that may apply to you.
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I was unaware of that condition . I will try and find time to look it up. My theories hold together so completely that I doubt that I have your problem.
I have mantained that all type 2 diabetics can control their diabetes with diet. In particular I am simulating a type 2 diabetic on a low carb diet. So you may have had type 2 diabetes but you controled it.Hi
Thanks, you are the person I have been looking for. So there are people without the "hunter" gene who get gestational diabetes. I still say all women with the "hunter" gene get gestational diabetes.
Nope... my diet pre diabetes was very sugary... I was not healthy, I was not active and I was not fit... I became type 2 (as I wrote in my post) by being given medication. Steroids to be exacts, however the implant did start it off. That was after my last baby.I have mantained that all type 2 diabetics can control their diabetes with diet. In particular I am simulating a type 2 diabetic on a low carb diet. So you may have had type 2 diabetes but you controled it.
HiNope... my diet pre diabetes was very sugary... I was not healthy, I was not active and I was not fit... I became type 2 (as I wrote in my post) by being given medication. Steroids to be exacts, however the implant did start it off. That was after my last baby.
There are autoimmune disorders that is in the family as well as low birth weight (but not for my kids who were elephants), I do think there is more to this all but I don't think it is just one thing that triggers gestational diabetes. I also have a very good friend who also developed gd but she has started the low carb diet (because it worked for me) and she has also lost weight but is not diabetic.
I think that as the message of low carb spreads and more people try it that the number of gd woman will reduce. Luton and dunstable hospital have introduced the low carb program for its gd and diabetic pregnant woman (I think it may have rolled out the program to all diabetics but I can only speak about my experience) and it does work... so I think we will see it being rolled out in all hospitals soon!
tell that to all the type 2 people I know who low carb as far as they can go, and still need meds and even insulin. Your belief is simply untrue.I have mantained that all type 2 diabetics can control their diabetes with diet. In particular I am simulating a type 2 diabetic on a low carb diet. So you may have had type 2 diabetes but you controled it.
He is stuck in that belief though!tell that to all the type 2 people I know who low carb as far as they can go, and still need meds and even insulin. Your belief is simply untrue.
HiHe is stuck in that belief though!
He started off saying that only and all people with "hunter" gene get gd, when proven wrong he changes the statement to try to fit it to the original belief rather than conceding that the original belief is incorrect...
Low carbing worked for me, but reading comments on here and the questions on the lc forum, it doesn't work for all! What he needs to do is see how many of those people on low carb and it not work get gd and how many low carbers who have lost weight had gd... but it seems like he is on the wrong forum because he will then accuse those woman with gd and lcworking of always being diabetic (discounting them) just to make the results suit his thesis!
If @yetta2mymom you don't like this reply you must look at how your answers seem to look from my point of view... you have an idea which you want to prove right, you keep asking the question in a different ways to try to manipulate the results to reflect and so "prove" your theory.
Look round this forum, use the searches on this forum and website, and google. Re-read the posts people have made to you and look at the links they provided. That's how I did it. A very low carb diet can work in some people, and work up to a point in some people, but for others it is insufficient, or they have complex medical and dietary conditions, so drugs are needed.Hi
I am processing your comment. I eat a very low carb diet. Would like more information about why the very low carb diet does not work.
Hitell that to all the type 2 people I know who low carb as far as they can go, and still need meds and even insulin. Your belief is simply untrue.
HiLook round this forum, use the searches on this forum and website, and google. Re-read the posts people have made to you and look at the links they provided. That's how I did it. A very low carb diet can work in some people, and work up to a point in some people, but for others it is insufficient, or they have complex medical and dietary conditions, so drugs are needed.
I speak as one who has had gestational diabetes.
HiLook round this forum, use the searches on this forum and website, and google. Re-read the posts people have made to you and look at the links they provided. That's how I did it. A very low carb diet can work in some people, and work up to a point in some people, but for others it is insufficient, or they have complex medical and dietary conditions, so drugs are needed.
I speak as one who has had gestational diabetes.
Time is tight for others on here too, including me, I dont have time to do your research for links and articles for you. I doubt very much that two doctors have said that the low carb diet is a cure for all type 2 diabetics. They may well have claimed that it helps, can put them in remission, and improves their chances of avoiding complications. Claiming a complete cure for all type 2's is dubious, to say the least and i would be wary of the doctors if that is what they are claiming.
I think you also need to do some research about fats. I recommend Jason Fung, Gary Taubes and Dr Bernstein as a starting point about diabetes and food in general.
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There has been a doctor who has proposed this for about 40 years (communication on this site). In the U.K. during W.W. 2 they had very limited grains available. Less people per capita died of heart disease in the U.K. during W.W. 2 then before or since.
I have been on my strange diet for over 12 years. I was eating cheese and therefore I gained weight. I disagree with the medical community about fats. On my web site I say (paraphrase) my blood fats are fine, my circulation is fine, my blood pressure is improved, before farming we were hunter gathers is it surprising that we do fine without cerials and most fruits.
The problems occur when we add starch/sugar to our diets.
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There has been a doctor who has proposed this for about 40 years (communication on this site). In the U.K. during W.W. 2 they had very limited grains available. Less people per capita died of heart disease in the U.K. during W.W. 2 then before or since.
I have been on my strange diet for over 12 years. I was eating cheese and therefore I gained weight. I disagree with the medical community about fats. On my web site I say (paraphrase) my blood fats are fine, my circulation is fine, my blood pressure is improved, before farming we were hunter gathers is it surprising that we do fine without cerials and most fruits.
The problems occur when we add starch/sugar to our diets.
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I have been cursing your low fat doctors ever since I learned that there (facts?) were nor based on experimental evidence. The major reason I did not go on my weird diet for about 50 years was that it was no wheres near a balanced diet.
In some it caused severe heart condition and meant they were on medication for the rest of their life, then there are those who's cholesterol increase when trying so it causes other health problems that stop them carrying on, I also read about people who couldn't stop losing weight became severely underweight and seriously ill because of this... that is what I have come across, plus...Hi
I am processing your comment. I eat a very low carb diet. Would like more information about why the very low carb diet does not work.
HiYou appear to be talking to yourself here, very strange indeed.
My disagreement is not with low carb healthy fat diet... it is with the sweeping generalisation. I have also seen the blood group diets etc... this seems to be a similar thing to that. I can't do your research for you... go on the site and speak to the people in the forum who CAN'T do low carb and they will be able to give you more info.Hi
Explain yourself. I gather that there have been instances where the low carb diet is detrimental but I am not aware of the details. Where is the evidence that most people can not live on a low carb diet if they have the "hunter" gene and/or are type 2 diabetic? Is it a matter of fath? Where is the evidence that fats without sugar/starch are a problem? I became very angry when I read that there was no experimental evidence that this was true since it had stopped me from going on the diet I now live on. My health is still slowly improving as I never change sugar into fat (my analysis). I have lost most of my life to the stupid doctors. I disagree that there are no generalities we can make about humans and diet. I agree that there are exceptions to most rules.
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