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Am I almost sort of cured?

LittleGreyCat

LittleGreyCat

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Location
Suffolk, UK
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Dislikes
Diet drinks - the artificial sweeteners taste vile.
Having to forswear foods I have loved all my life.
Trying to find low carb meals when eating out.
Well, lost a lot of weight and hitting pre-diabetic numbers.
Medication free!

I've just had a guilty treat (M&S pasta bake) and am testing at 1 and 2 hours after.

1 hour after 6.9 (which is within the acceptable range).

Will post the 2 hour results as an edit,

Red wine may be buffering my BG as well.

However if I can eat bad stuff without spiking my BG then a lot of the pressure to maintain a strict diet goes away.
I can stop myself eating bad stuff if I know it will spike my BG to dangerous levels, but if I can eat a chip butty without a spike then deep dark degenerate sin beckons with a grubby but oh so attractive hand.

Probably just a short term effect though - you do have to load up on carbs for a few days before taking a glucose tolerance test.

So back to the barricades, citizens!!

Doing my head in, though, because I never really thought that I could get to somewhere near normal.

Cheers

LGC

Yeah - 7.8 after 2 hours. :-(
So just a slow rise.
 
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You had to mention the chip butty!:(
I'm sure that you are trying to persuade yourself that you are sort of cured. Why do you want to go back to 'normal' eating when you are having such good results? Me! I've got my low carb diet and I'm sticking to it! Why would I give it up when it's been good to me? It's better tan a 'normal healthy diet'
 
Sin isn't good for you.
That's why it is sin.
And so much fun.

Still not sort of cured, though.
Just not as bad as I was.
 
Feeling like I am in a similar place. Last week my average BG was 5.9, with min 5.2 and max 7.3... and the 7.3 was a 2 hour read after spag bol.... my first spag in months... the 1 hour read was 6.2.
 
hankjam said:
Feeling like I am in a similar place. Last week my average BG was 5.9, with min 5.2 and max 7.3... and the 7.3 was a 2 hour read after spag bol.... my first spag in months... the 1 hour read was 6.2.
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Did you test later than 2 hours? For me, pasta is a long, slow and sustained rise, although I haven't had any for a while. Curiously, a small portion of Indonesian noodles does nothing to my bloods.
 
Probably just a short term effect though - you do have to load up on carbs for a few days before taking a glucose tolerance test
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Actually, considering that you are normally eating a low carb diet that is a good result. Remember, that the reason that you have to eat a normal carb load before an OGTT is because if you are eating a low carb diet then you will have a higher result. That is why people who eat very low carb diets are often horrified when they eat an isolated higher carb food or meal.


(trivia here: the effect of a high fat diet on an OGTT has been known since the late 1920s, here's a graph that shows the effect very clearly from a 1934 paper by Himsworth, who was the first to suggest that one type of diabetes was caused by lack of insulin and another by insulin resistance)
ogtt two diets HF and HC.JPG
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2444943/pdf/brmedj07161-0009.pdf
 
AndBreathe said:
Did you test later than 2 hours? For me, pasta is a long, slow and sustained rise, although I haven't had any for a while. Curiously, a small portion of Indonesian noodles does nothing to my bloods.
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I didn't and should have and will do so in the future, just to see how long the long slow ones go.... though often it crashes into bed time....
 
Sounds like great progress LGC, keep it up.

Remember, one chip butty every now and then does not need to be habit-forming:angelic:
 
Proper chip butties require home made bread and home made chips - which is difficult to do once a month without extreme wastage.

For me, I need to step away from the carbs.

If I get away with one chip butty then there is always the temptation for just one more.....
 
I am afraid you are just now finding out what a lot of us discovered some time ago.
NHS advice of a carbohydrate based diet is just ****.
I don't believe the NHS has any idea how to deal with diabetes or come to that weight loss. They use the old adage that they have been telling me for the last 67 years, lose weight and your problems will be over. ("Doctor I have cut my finger", "lose some weight and it will soon get better, here's a plaster")
Eventually aged 60 I decided to do something about it and lost 16 stone over 3 years. Still diabetic and the doctors reply was "well it does not always work, try losing another couple of stone".
I'd like to know from NHS statistics how many people once diagnosed, lose their diabetes? Probably like 'weight watchers' 1 in 60,000 people weigh less after 3 years than when they joined.
 
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