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Am I diabetic?

millmollmand

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Hi all, i recently had a full set of bloods done at my Dr and was called in to see them regarding the results. I was told I was very anemic and may been a blood transfusion, (did not have in the end, only an Iron Infusion which has done the trick) and the Doc said, oh and your bloods show you are Diabetic! I have to say i was in shock. His advise was to change my Diet to a Diabetic diet and they will test my bloods again in 6 months. Is this normal?
 
Now there is a difficult one to answer. Can you tell us which blood test the doctor used to diagnose that you have diabetes. If it was an HbA1c test then anaemia has a large impact on the reading. Have a read of this pamphlet http://www.pathology.leedsth.nhs.uk/pathology/Portals/0/PDFs/BP-2013-01 Diabetes.pdf and look 2/3 of the way down the first column to the anaemia section, esp at the 2nd para. This is likely why he wants to revisit the blood test in 6 months once the anaemia has corrected and your body and returned to its stable state
 
Hi all, i recently had a full set of bloods done at my Dr and was called in to see them regarding the results. I was told I was very anemic and may been a blood transfusion, (did not have in the end, only an Iron Infusion which has done the trick) and the Doc said, oh and your bloods show you are Diabetic! I have to say i was in shock. His advise was to change my Diet to a Diabetic diet and they will test my bloods again in 6 months. Is this normal?
No it's most unusual. The medical profession have not used phrases like Diabetic Diet in the past, they just gave you pills and sent you home.

From your post no-one can tell if you are in fact diabetic and technically we morons are not supposed to advise you contrary to your doctor anyway.

The good news is that if by Diabetic Diet he means one lower in carbohydrates then that is a good idea for a healthy person since too many prepared foods and drinks have carbs added in the manufacturing process and it's all got a little out of hand.
 
thank you, im totally confused, not sure where to start, well i have started to google Diabetic dietry needs so not entirely true. My shock wasnt being told i was diabetic, both my parents and both siblings were diagnosed Diabetic after the age of 40. My shock was in the off the cuff manor i was told and now im not sure if i am or not. And now after reading about the anemia effect i am convinced Im not diabetic but i have to wait 6 months to find out.

Do i do the diet or eat fairly normal and see what happens next time? Dont want to change my diet and mask the fact that i am diabetic so that i never really know one way or the other. Or am i looking at this all wrong. Will the change in diet cure me?
 
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Hi all, i recently had a full set of bloods done at my Dr and was called in to see them regarding the results. I was told I was very anemic and may been a blood transfusion, (did not have in the end, only an Iron Infusion which has done the trick) and the Doc said, oh and your bloods show you are Diabetic! I have to say i was in shock. His advise was to change my Diet to a Diabetic diet and they will test my bloods again in 6 months. Is this normal?

Welcome to our community's we'll do our best to answer any questions you have:)

From reading your post my guess is you are using figurative language:)

As one of the community members has just asked, could you give us the type of test taken by the doctor and if you're not sure just ring, ask and get the precise results, which they will provide if requested.


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Do i do the diet or eat fairly normal and see what happens next time? Dont want to change my diet and mask the fact that i am diabetic so that i never really know one way or the other. Or am i looking at this all wrong. Will the change in diet cure me?
This is a conundrum many have faced. High sugar levels cause damage and if you are diagnosed with diabetes you get regular checks from the NHS to monitor your condition. On the other hand, if you start your own treatment with diet and arrive at the surgery apparently healthy again you might not get diagnosed in the first place. You must decide.

In the meantime this site runs a free course on diet which you don't have to do but there is no harm in looking. It's at

www.diabetes.co.uk/lowcarb
 
ok thank you i will call the surgery and try to find out although the receptionists arent the most helpful of people.
 
Hi and welcome. As you may have gathered there is no such thing as a diabetic diet, but what many of us would say is to reduce the carbs to keep blood sugar down. Proteins and fats will help you feeling full (carbs won't) and hardly affect blood sugar. As long as you have the right diet and your blood sugar stays within a good range you won't, in effect, be suffering from diabetes but it may be lurking in the background if things should change.
 
@millmollmand

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful, especially with regards to diet. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
ok thank you i will call the surgery and try to find out although the receptionists arent the most helpful of people.

If you get no progress with the receptionist, ring after 2pm at most surgeries and ask to speak to the dr and this approach usually works. At the end of the day, the results are yours:)


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My shock wasnt being told i was diabetic,

My shock was in the off the cuff manor i was told and now im not sure if i am or not. And now after reading about the anemia effect i am convinced Im not diabetic but i have to wait 6 months to find out.

Do i do the diet or eat fairly normal and see what happens next time? Dont want to change my diet and mask the fact that i am diabetic so that i never really know one way or the other.

Will the change in diet cure me?

First, you would need to ask them which blood glucose test(s) were administered: fasting plasma glucose or HbA1c. Conceivably, both were. Then if need be, look up what the diagnostic thresholds are (of course, those should be included in the test report, anyway).

A diagnosis of a major illness when based on a lab test is not official, strictly speaking, until the test result has been replicated. It seems thoughtful of the doctor to allow your system 6 months of recovery. Under normal health circumstances, if the test value were far past the threshold, the replication would be a mere formality. But an episode of acute anaemia seems abnormal enough to maybe interfere with both of the glucose tests. It surely interferes with the A1c. As the leaflet linked to says, the HbA1c gives an invalid result if there are large abnormalities with the red blood cells. This is because the A1c is a measure of a slow chemical reaction with the hemoglobin inside the RB cells.

The term 'anaemia' usually refers to some deficiency with the RBC's, there are several kinds of RBC deficiency (as well as deficiencies in other kinds of blood cell). If the RBC count is low, this falsely raises the A1c value, although science has not provided any measures of how high it will be raised.

Instead of thinking of "cure", it's safer to think of "reversal". I do like to think "cure" of T2 is sometimes possible, but there is really no hard evidence for this belief. For now, many people have achieved normal glucose test values within 3 to 12 months by diet and exercise, and many more have achieved partial reversal. There are testimonials on this Website.

Speaking to your questions about not finding things out. If you have slow growing Type 1 diabetes mellitus, diet and exercise could not suppress it forever. If doctors administer the proper test panel for autoantibodies, the T1 will be detected. If you have T2, then conceivably, physical activity and the LCHF diet could suppress the T2 for years, if not forever. I suggest that's OK because LCHF is the way humans always used to eat, and LCHF prevents more than just diabetes. The high carb diet also promotes cardiovascular disease, colorectal cancer, and other chronic ailments.
 
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Hi, it does seem odd to not have any information given to you at all. My doctors tests the blood every 3 months, and many others I have read about on here also, so I figured 3 monthly tests were the norm, not 6 monthly ones... But I guess that could be dependent on the doctors or area. If your levels were too high I'm assuming you would have been put on medication of some type, so the fact you haven't been is good news. I was a 55mmol at diagnosis so not terrible and I was given 3 months to see if I could get that lower with diet before medication. Which with the help of a glucose meter, this site and a ketogenic diet I have done so. To start with you could phone the surgery not only to find out what test was done and the result, but also to get an appointment with your diabetic nurse. Every new diabetic should be offered this. They will talk over everything and can explain more to you about it.
In my opinion though, you'll find this site the most helpful. The doctors and nurses will give you general advice that helps many, but being diabetic is different for everyone of us. Our bodies are so unique and everyone's diabetes is slightly different.
I would get a glucose meter and test your blood before eating and 2 hours after. See which foods cause your levels to raise. Then limit or avoid them. I wouldn't wait the 6 months to change your diet, high glucose levels damage our bodies inside without us even knowing, making us more likely to get a whole range of health issues. If your levels are controled however you cut the risks of complications form diabetes massively. In fact I feel I am healthier now than in years. For me it was the kick up the bum I needed to change my life style.
Good luck with everything, don't forget to call your surgery and get the answers you want and the appointments you should be offered.
 
@millmollmand I hope you've been able to get the info you require from your gp practice.
Don't feel shy. Call them. Most will tell you on the phone once your gp has had a consultation with you.
This could be a big thing for you. It will be rewarding to get your starting point from which you'll improve from.
I wish I had. Decades ago. :(
 
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